World Championship 2015 - São Paulo, Brazil - July 17-19, 2015

[Sin-H]

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but:

Maybe they show you different prices depending on your IP location. Or depending on the currency.

I know that it used to be the case if flying from Zurich, if you search for prices in CHF as opposed to Euros the nominal value of the price was doubled (this shouldn't be the case anymore, as Swiss announced recently that they'd adjust their prices internationally). Just because they knew Swiss people are used to higher prices (this last sentence is a cynical comment, in fact I have no idea why they did that).

 

[BillyRain]

Actually, it is inconvenient for almost everyone That's the whole point I was making with the top 100 3x3x3 results. For top100 cubers, a Brazil competition is inconvenient (=not in the home continent) for 99% of them whereas an Asia competition is inconvenient for ~70% of them. That seems like a big difference for me. Imagine going out for dinner with all your friends, and choosing a restaurant 99% of your friends hate when you could be picking one that at least a third of them are happy with. I do care about Asian cubers who may have a lot of skill but no money to travel to South America. Especially Chinese cubers (remember, 1 Asian WC). I'm getting a $2000 range right now on Kayak for Beijing to Sao Paolo round trips; nominal per capita GDP in China being about 1/8 of that of the US (see here), that is a LOT more money for a Chinese cuber than for an American or indeed a lot of the people posting here.

As much as it pains me to continue this tomfoolery...

Convenience is not just measured in distance.

I didn't know you were the accountant for 90% of the speedcubing community

 

[Sa967St]

Someone please lock this thread and make a new one without all the ********. Thanks.

If a new thread was started the ******** would just continue. We just need to put most of the first 21 pages behind us.

When more details about the competition are announced (official site, registration etc.) I'll separate the discussion about the choice of location from the discussion about the actual competition into two separate threads. It's super disappointing that lots of people are complaining about the location, and I don't think it should be discussed in the "official" SS thread for the competition.

A bunch of people already mentioned this, but at US Nats when it was announced that Worlds 2015 would be in São Paulo, there was a lot of cheering and many of us were really excited about it. I really hope the Brazilian community doesn't get the wrong impression by reading the complaints in this thread -- there is so much support for them that just isn't being mentioned, and many of us are just as upset about the unnecessary complaints as they probably are.

 

[Stefan]

I do care about Asian cubers who may have a lot of skill but no money to travel to South America. Especially Chinese cubers (remember, 1 Asian WC).

Spoiler: Chinese Competitors at Worlds

[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD]Competition[/TD][TD]ChineseCompetitors[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]WC2005[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]WC2011[/TD][TD="align:right"]11[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]WC2013[/TD][TD="align:right"]10[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]

Spoiler: SQL code

SELECT competitionId Competition, count(distinct personId) ChineseCompetitors
FROM Results
WHERE competitionId rlike '^WC' AND countryId = 'China'
GROUP BY competitionId

 

[Fawn]

Man, I'm not sure whether to go or not. I really want to, but I guess I'll wait until registration begins and I can see how many other competitors there are.

 

[Antonie faz fan]

Can anyone make a poll on this so we can see how many people on the forums who see this will go or won't go?

 

[Sa967St]

Can anyone make a poll on this so we can see how many people on the forums who see this will go or won't go?

No. Just wait until registration opens to see who's going.

 

[Andreaillest]

When Thailand was announced for Worlds 2011 there wasn't nearly this much negativity. I guess the cuber mindset has changed a bit since then or whatever, but I'm really happy for South American cubers nonetheless.

Paying my student loans is my main priority right now, so I don't think I can go. However, I hope everyone who can has fun and gets to meet a lot of amazing South American cubers.

 

[MatejMuzatko]

Don't complain about the location. Just deal with it... I can't afford it, so I am not going. I am not trying to force WCA to change the location. I will be checking cubecomps.

 

[cubizh]

The following shows what country people were from that attended all World Championships to date. This idea was based on the Euro 2014 webpage.

Spoiler: 1982

Spoiler: 2003

Spoiler: 2005

Spoiler: 2007

Spoiler: 2009

Spoiler: 2011

Spoiler: 2013

If you want a more interactive approach, to hover the countries and the number of participants, you can do that here.

 

[BlackD]

OK, now we have people here in Brazil which are celebrating each positive comment like if it were a Brazil national soccer team goal - even though soccer is not an attractive subject for us brazilians right now (World Cup semi-final disaster...) lol

São Paulo is a huge city and anyone who comes to the city will have plenty of options to have fun. Be sure that you will be very well treated and people will do whatever is possible to make you feel confortable.

By the way, take a moment to meet our delegates, specially Rafael Cinoto. After you meet him, you will never forget. He is a very nice person and is doing a very hard work to expand cubing in Brazil, together with many other people. It seems like we are going to have a new generation of good cubers. It is fascinating to see kids under 10 years old solving sub 14sec. They are going to be the ones that will really see the benefits of this championship. We have now the youngest cuber in the world. She is 3 years old and solves in 70 sec (using Fridrich).

Another interesting fact: there is a facebook event about Worlds 2015 here in Brazil. So far, more than 500 people have said "Going". This is unreal for sure, so we can´t give credit to those numbers, but this shows how enthusiastics brazilians and south americans are about this championship.

Again, anyone who needs help or want more information about Brazil, just let us know

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

Don't expect any Malaysians to show up if the only flights to Brazil are operated by Malaysian Airlines

 

[AlexMaass]

Meh I guess Brazil deserves a world championship, good for them!

 

[antoineccantin]

When I first heard the announcement, I was quite suprised, as I hoped it was going to be somewhere in Europe. However, I like the idea of it being in Brazil now. I guess you could say that it's equally far for everyone

I might see you all there, especially if I manage to get a grant from the city, or a sponsorship

 

[kcl]

When I first heard the announcement, I was quite suprised, as I hoped it was going to be somewhere in Europe. However, I like the idea of it being in Brazil now. I guess you could say that it's equally far for everyone

I might see you all there, especially if I manage to get a grant from the city, or a sponsorship

I never thought of asking my city for a grant... Brb let me try that

 

[megaminxwin]

When more details about the competition are announced (official site, registration etc.) I'll separate the discussion about the choice of location from the discussion about the actual competition into two separate threads. It's super disappointing that lots of people are complaining about the location, and I don't think it should be discussed in the "official" SS thread for the competition.

A bunch of people already mentioned this, but at US Nats when it was announced that Worlds 2015 would be in São Paulo, there was a lot of cheering and many of us were really excited about it. I really hope the Brazilian community doesn't get the wrong impression by reading the complaints in this thread -- there is so much support for them that just isn't being mentioned, and many of us are just as upset about the unnecessary complaints as they probably are.

Thanks Sarah. It does seem like it'll be a really good competition, Worlds is always on time and scheduled well etc. Send my apologies to the South American cubers.

 

[Coolster01]

If he can't afford a plane ticket to Brazil, do you think he can afford one to Europe or Asia?

Yeah. My parents want to visit more European places (maybe not Asia), they aren't interested in South America.

 

[PhillipEspinoza]

Yeah. My parents want to visit more European places (maybe not Asia), they aren't interested in South America.

My point exactly. Peoples parents are western centric in the US and the sentiments get taught to their kids. Kind of blatant here. Europe is high class, South America is not, they just tried to steal our name.

 

[Tim Major]

My point exactly. Peoples parents are western centric in the US and the sentiments get taught to their kids. Kind of blatant here. Europe is high class, South America is not, they just tried to steal our name.

Sao Paulo is not 3rd world at all. Parts of Brazil are, but Sao Paulo is like a normal city.

 

[Noahaha]

To the Brazilians/organizers reading this:

Bear in mind that someone who does not support the location is much more likely to post in this thread than someone who does. Most people who are perfectly happy to see the WC in Brazil don't feel the need to make a post just to voice there support, whereas most people who are upset will post.