Yet another cube simulator hacker?

[dougbenham]

I just want to warn you all against calling him a hacker. Wikipedia defines hacker as the following: "In common usage, a hacker is a person who breaks into computers". Garzon doesn't seem to be breaking into the system in any way or "hacking" the data. The replays show regular Fridrich solves, so his times are theoretically possible and thus you should not call him a hacker. Computer-aided cheater might be a more appropriate term.

If it's indeed a cheated solve, submitting it would, in my opinion, count as hacking. Submitting a cheated solve amounts to hacking into code that is supposed to only let real, legitimate solves through. As for the times being theoretically possible, we've seen obviously fake times being quickly deleted before ("Haydee Pasha" posted a Cube Explorer solve of around 4-5 seconds) so I think it should be considered more of a survival strategy than an inability to make a "better" cheated solve.

Incidentally I think you're being extremely pedantic to be arguing about definitions. It's not like we're being unfair to a probable cheater (this time there's actually evidence, as opposed to just a hunch) by using the wrong word. And hacking is often used metaphorically anyway... I don't see why you care so much about the wording of what we say.

I'm just playing the devil's advocate here. What "evidence" do you have?

 

[Johannes91]

Wikipedia defines hacker as the following: "In common usage, a hacker is a person who breaks into computers".

Incidentally I think you're being extremely pedantic to be arguing about definitions.

And I think it's wrong to say that that's the definition Wikipedia gives; it's just how the word is commonly used -- no more, no less. Many people consider the usage incorrect.

See e.g. here: "In one of several meanings of the word in computing, a hacker is ...".

 

[Konsta]

Garzon has cheated for sure. He had like 5.xx sec single solve in Ryan's page for some time, until I asked Ryan about it and he removed it right away.
I know some people watched that 'solve' and saw that it was only couple turns and after that timer just stopped, while the cube was obviously entirely scrambled.
I have no reason to believe that Garzon is not a cheater.

 

[Robert-Y]

Garzon has cheated for sure. He had like 5.xx sec single solve in Ryan's page for some time, until I asked Ryan about it and he removed it right away.
I know some people watched that 'solve' and saw that it was only couple turns and after that timer just stopped, while the cube was obviously entirely scrambled.
I have no reason to believe that Garzon is not a cheater.

Oh yeah, I remember that too. I thought that maybe someone else could've hacked his solve...

 

[dougbenham]

In case you are wondering how Garzon might have cheated, I'm pretty sure he used this to help him out:

http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/generator.html

Ryan's new generator allows you to input moves, save them by pushing enter, then replay them at full speed by pressing the space bar. This means that you can do however many moves you want as slow as you want, and have it be played back full speed with no pauses. Hmmm... sounds familiar. So Garzon's solves could've technically been as slow as 5 minutes as he carefully optimized each move and it replays as full speed with no pauses. There's no doubt that Garzon can actually solve the cube, and probably fairly fast, but not as fast and smooth as his times claim to be on the simulator.

How would that have helped him in his solve(s)? The scrambles on hi-games.net are randomly generated... How would he be able to use the allotted 5 seconds inspection time to use the generator to help him in his solve?