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Mátyás Kuti is back with more BLD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I'm sure he's learned his lesson. But seriously? Just wow

Meh. If Mike Hughey can do 35 min memo for 7x7. I'm sure kuti can too...but faster...

That's what I figured too. I'm actually quite happy that my memo is almost as fast as his. That's rather a major accomplishment for me. Of course his execution is twice as fast as mine - we all know he's way faster than me.

Of course, I know better than to feel too proud of myself - we're comparing my best of like 15 tries with his first try. By his second try he'll probably be memorizing in 20 minutes.

Oh well, I'm happy to just be a second-tier big cube BLD cuber. :)

Mike! You should really work on your 3x3 or 5x5 speedsolve, and that will seriously effect your turn speed on all cubes including blindfold. Your memo is amazing and so is your execution... but I really believe you can cut a bunch of seconds off your overall time if you learn to turn the cube a bit faster. And I'm saying this as both a fan of yours and a critic =).
 
Mike! You should really work on your 3x3 or 5x5 speedsolve, and that will seriously effect your turn speed on all cubes including blindfold. Your memo is amazing and so is your execution... but I really believe you can cut a bunch of seconds off your overall time if you learn to turn the cube a bit faster. And I'm saying this as both a fan of yours and a critic =).

Thanks, Andrew! I know you're right, and right now, other than the weekly competition (which still takes me many hours per week), I pretty much am only working on 3x3x3 speed now. It's slow going, but I am improving.
 
someone on youtube made the point that Michael Vick killed 12 dogs and will be back on the field before Kuti will be in a compitition. In my opinion, thats bull crap.

Yeah, it is, Vick should definitely be away for more than three years. But seriously, Vick's in prison. That's a lot worse than just being banned from going to cubing tournaments, no matter how crazy you are about cubing.

My view is that cheating is a very large problem in any sport (especially one that isn't well-established or rich) - not in the sense that it happens all the time, but in the sense that it really undermines trust. If cheating was widespread it would be much more difficult and expensive to allow cubers to compete fairly: we'd need screens in front of cubers so that the audience can be prevented from seeing the scrambles, organizers could never use competitors' stackmats even if they don't have as many as they need, and everyone who helped out at a competition would have to be a specially chosen WCA official to make sure the times are not falsified. One of the reasons cubing is as friendly as it is is because we can expect competitors to follow the rules.

Also, it's not like Matyas knew cheating was allowed; there was no misunderstanding, just a deliberate attempt to break the rules. And he had the fastest times out there for every blindfold attempt. He reached a level of cubing fame that very few cubers have ever done, and from what I hear he even briefly became a national hero in Hungary. To find out that someone at such a high level is cheating is a tremendous blow to a young sport. The cheating fiasco opened our eyes as a community and even led to a few regulation changes to make sure it doesn't happen again (such as the paper during BLD attempts). Sure, three years might be a bit excessive, but a relatively long ban is definitely warranted. I don't think anyone who was directly affected by his cheating wants him back any time soon.
 
someone on youtube made the point that Michael Vick killed 12 dogs and will be back on the field before Kuti will be in a compitition. In my opinion, thats bull crap.

Yeah, it is, Vick should definitely be away for more than three years. But seriously, Vick's in prison. That's a lot worse than just being banned from going to cubing tournaments, no matter how crazy you are about cubing.

Also Michael Vick didn't steal money from others.
 
Can you guys please stop bringing up the money issue? It detracts from the really bad stuff.

And why do I need to remind people it's his very own choice to make it three years and not just two?
 
He's right. While the money is bad, the real harm done is to the sport. Speedcubing is relatively young, and yet already there is a "scandal"

Imagine if steroid use was rampant in the early days of, say, professional baseball. The negative image is very hard to shake. Not to mention that so many people are skeptical of blindfold solving anyway. This just makes them believe even more that cubers are not to be trusted.
 
the money is not what makes me mad at all really, i mention it just because it ADDS to the list of horrible things he's already done yet people still kiss and kiss and kiss his A**.

but w/e thats their problem to look up to a theif/fraud/cheater.
 
someone on youtube made the point that Michael Vick killed 12 dogs and will be back on the field before Kuti will be in a compitition. In my opinion, thats bull crap.

Yeah, it is, Vick should definitely be away for more than three years. But seriously, Vick's in prison. That's a lot worse than just being banned from going to cubing tournaments, no matter how crazy you are about cubing.

Also Michael Vick didn't steal money from others.

I dont know about you, but i'd steal money all day long rather than kill a dog. [let alone 12]
 
im sorry if i gave the wrong impression, everyone. I do think what he did was disgusting. not to belittle the cubing community, but it was like kicking a puppy... everyone put in so much effort to have fun and he put two fingers up to that. i just wanted to point out that he was excellent in other events. which is inarguable.
 
the money is not what makes me mad at all really, i mention it just because it ADDS to the list of horrible things he's already done yet people still kiss and kiss and kiss his A**.

but w/e thats their problem to look up to a theif/fraud/cheater.

You don't have to look up to him to have respect for his ability. And you certainly don't have to kiss any part of his body.
 
the money is not what makes me mad at all really, i mention it just because it ADDS to the list of horrible things he's already done yet people still kiss and kiss and kiss his A**.

but w/e thats their problem to look up to a theif/fraud/cheater.

You don't have to look up to him to have respect for his ability. And you certainly don't have to kiss any part of his body.

Agreed. Anybody that cheats and gets caught should be punished and LOOKED DOWN UPON, and that comes from getting caught cheating. But he only cheated in bld that we know of. So IF he does come back we should respect the fact that he was one of the best cubers in this young sport. And the fact that this is a young sport is why it would be good if he came back considering he was such a talented cuber. PURE RESPECT but also looking down upon him. Atleast until he proves that he is ready to give up cheating and wants to help this sport. But he will never be from under the microscope, and rightly so.
 
Did he ever addmit to it?

Nope. He never has yet at all. not even to a man who showed him respect, gave him the benefit of the doubt, and even a chance to prove himself at a competition, and withouth him matyas wouldnt even be able to go to competitions EVER, and he would be nothing. Ron van bruchem. So he even lied to him.


Wow matyas.. you truly are a great guy!!!!! *whoever doesn't see this saracasm should go just jump off a cliff now*:rolleyes:
 
We all respect Matyas' accomplishments in the speed solve categories. That's never been doubted at all. We all know that Matyas is a good cuber. But being skilled at cubing doesn't mean you command respect if you don't earn it.

This entire situation could have played out differently, but it didn't. Let me tell you what could have happened. Facing overwhelming evidence of cheating, Matyas could have admitted to the cheated. He could have apologized to the WCA in circumventing its rules and being dishonest, he could have apologized to the people who were hurt by his actions, and he could have taken steps to correct the damage to the community he done.

Instead, Matyas continues to deny that he cheated in light of the overwhelming evidence. He comes onto message boards and talks about how good he is at blindfolding and cubing. And none of this matters. It doesn't matter if Matyas is the greatest cuber in the world right now. I would never deny that he has talent and skill and dedication. Matyas is a good cuber. That is a fact.

But through his actions, he chooses to keep himself at a distance with the global Rubik's Cube community, and alienates himself from competitions. This could have been resolved a long time ago. Instead, he tried to be difficult, avoided answering questions, and just made our investigation a downright nightmare.

If someone accused me of cheating, what would I do? I would ask them for what evidence that concerns them, and then show them that I'm not cheating. Why? I haven't cheated in competition. It's that simple.

If Matyas had not cheated in competition, he could have easily taken steps to help clear his name. He refused to do this. It really angers me that some people cling onto this faith of Matyas, when objectively, what he's done is despicable.

Again, Matays is a good cuber. He might be better than us all. But that doesn't change the fact of what he did. It doesn't change the trouble he caused, and it doesn't mitigate his defiance in light of overwhelming evidence.

In the end though, who cares? The way he's carried himself in the Rubik's Cube community is only a foreshadowing of the failures he's going to have in life when he has no choice but to be responsible for his own actions. It is completely possible that a decade later, Matyas is applying for a job and his employer will do a Google search on him. Information on the internet can live forever. A possible employer will happen upon his post, and may come to the conclusion that he is dishonest and doesn't take responsibility for his actions.

Even if this probability is small, it is clear that Matyas is not taking steps to improve his own character, and to contribute to the world as a community. I think at the age of 15, you can be responsible on a good level for your actions. He doesn't need any coddling or protection.

I'll never be as fast as Matyas in cubing. I'll never be faster than him at any sized cube, sighted or blindfolded. But the cube is only a facet of life. And overall in the game of life, I'm sure I'm doing much better.
 
I searched this on google but I couldn't get a straight answer. What was the overwhelming evidence that he was cheating.

I think it had to do with his DNF for the first time ever and it was because someone held a paper between him and his cube, possibly proving that he watched his cube fomr under the blindfold during all of his solves.
 
A summary of the crippling evidence:

In blindfold solving, you apply set-up move A, then you do something (generally a permutation) which we'll call B, and then you have to do A' to get out of it where A is the inverse of A.

If you do A, then do B, and then mess up doing A', a blindfolded cuber would reverse the mess-up and then execute A' correctly. Instead, Matyas continued, and started over solving the corners of the cube.

I'm going to head back home. So if people start attacking me, it'll be a bit of time before I can defend myself.

But honestly, at the end of the day, I know how to logic and reason, and I understand how to apply these things to the real world. I'm only 24, but I've had to make some pretty important life decisions already, and I have a good idea of what matters and what doesn't. I might suck at the cube, but I know how to play the game of life. And that's what matters. I could care less about who's beating me in the unofficial rankings (which is why I don't ever post there anymore).

Matyas is trading a few moments of false glory here and there. What he's selling is his own global image. I may never matter in his life again. (Though, it's completely possible that I do. There's a certain US college student that, if he encounters me at all when he job-seeks in the finance world, will be in for a world of hurt.) There will be people who matter to him, down his path of life that will be affected by this debacle. And he could have chosen to have this play out a different way, but he hasn't. I'm not the one who pays for this in the future. We are ultimately responsible for the choices we make, and how they affect us.
 
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that exactly how i feel about it, but i couldnt find a way to articulate it without sounding angry. thank you for that.

I'm going to head back home. So if people start attacking me, it'll be a bit of time before I can defend myself.

i dont think you need to worry about that.

I might suck at the cube

you don't though...

Matyas is trading a few moments of false glory here and there. What he's selling is his own global image. I may never matter in his life again. (Though, it's completely possible that I do. There's a certain US college student that, if he encounters me at all when he job-seeks in the finance world, will be in for a world of hurt.) There will be people who matter to him, down his path of life that will be affected by this debacle. And he could have chosen to have this play out a different way, but he hasn't. I'm not the one who pays for this in the future. We are ultimately responsible for the choices we make, and how they affect us.

are you still talking about matyas there? perhaps i missed something.

I also agree strongly with your last sentence, however existential it may sound. Its hard to succeed or gain people's trust/respect without even a slight degree of personal accountability, which he has not demonstrated. He was young, and he made a mistake. That is something i can forgive. however, I am not the kind of person who tolerates lying. I think Ron has shown him more leniency that he deserves. Despite what has happened Ron has extended his hand to offer a second chance and the response has been nothing short of despicable. if he ever does come to his senses and take the deal that was offered, i will not be happy to see him return.

wow i totally failed at not sounding angry right there.
 
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