Why does my LL TPS suck so much?

[JustinTimeCuber]

Like, seriously, my OLL and PLL have really crappy turning speed. I solve the F2L in 8 seconds on average and I'm barely sub-13. I want a 4 second LL, but I just don't have it. OLL takes me around 2 seconds on average (including recognition), and then PLL (also including recognition) takes me around 2.5 to 3. I can't sub 1 any of my PLLs except for the Jb perm, sometimes the U perms, and usually the Aa perm. I just think that my last layer sucks. I practice a lot, but it doesn't get any better. What do you think I should do?

 

[Username]

Spam the algs, find better algs for cases you have bad algs for, drill the algs even more

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

Find better algs, drill them, if you can't sub 1 those rinse and repeat

 

[OrigamiCuber1]

Can you post a list of algs you use for PLL? Also, the more you are conscious of your last layer, the slower it will seem. Try to drill them into you until they are instinct.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

i dont think your problem is necessarily tps. If PLL is taking you 2.5-3, your recog is bad.

 

[TDM]

i dont think your problem is necessarily tps. If PLL is taking you 2.5-3, your recog is bad.

Looking at the time he's posted, that's recognition and execution. You can't know if it's the recognition or the execution from that.

@OP: I'm in a similar position. ~8 second F2L, average mid 13. I think from here, the best we can do is search for algs, generate our own, then practise them again and again until your TPS improves.

 

[xchippy]

f2l 8 seconds and last layer 5 seconds doesn't make you have a bad last layer. You could work on the algorithms by drilling them though...