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Which is the best cube?

shelley

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It's all about the cuber, not the cube. I have never gotten a DIY to fit with my solving style. DIYs seem to specialize in fast turning as opposed to smooth overall movement, which is what I prefer. Besides, it is possible to get a store cube that barely needs any breaking in. Unfortunately it involves getting really lucky (or opening a whole bunch of cubes until you get a good one and then selling the rest to your cube students).

I suppose I could experiment with different combinations of pieces and cores and axles, but I don't have enough cubes to do that. I did find one combination that seemed promising with a store-bought axle and DIY pieces though.
 

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liukaipeng, the type D has the marking "yjtoy.net" (YongJun Toys Co) on the inside of corner pieces.

The Type A-II you mentioned is now on cubeforyou
yjtoy.net ... I've got such a cube and it is more cheaper than Type A/C in China. It is considered not so good. Its core is easy to broken and its springs is not good. I'm now understanding why there are so many guys combo Type D with Type A's core. Also, the plastic is not ABS.
 

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BTW, on the Chinese market, there's no Type D.
Seriously? Isn't Cube4you based in China?
Maybe there's some cube that is IN FACT Type D, but being considered as not good for speed cubing. In China, the upstream cube for speed cubing is Type A and C, Type A mode 3, and there a brand new Type A-II ( I have no idea about how the cube4you guys would call it, but you'll surely see it in a few days). In fact Type A is considered not suitable for high speeding cubing, and I've never seen any body sub-20 using it in competitions.

I'm now using a Type C with Type A's screws and springs.

And I'm also very eager to known what Type D REALLY is. Could somebody give me some detail description of it? And I'll identify it for you the ideas about it in China.
What is the Chinese cubing market? I can't see any cubes in any store. The only place I know of is cube4you.com.
Real stores for cube are rare in China. Only in big cities you can find some.
However, there are a bunch of online shops. Unfortunately, there are all in Chinese, except cube4you, which you can read.
 

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All this talk about DIYs. My best store-bought cube blows all my DIYs out of the water. Unfortunately with store-bought cubes you just have to be lucky and get a really good one.

But as always, that's just my personal opinion. You may not like cubes I like and vice-versa. The kind of cube one prefers is very dependent on the individual cuber's solving style and what they're used to.
I used to have an EXCELLENT store bought cube. It moved like a DIY when I first tried it. Unfortunately, it went missing one day when my baby cousin came to my house.:( So right now, my favorite cube would have to be my white DIY type A.
 

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liukaipeng, the type D has the marking "yjtoy.net" (YongJun Toys Co) on the inside of corner pieces.

The Type A-II you mentioned is now on cubeforyou
yjtoy.net ... I've got such a cube and it is more cheaper than Type A/C in China. It is considered not so good. Its core is easy to broken and its springs is not good. I'm now understanding why there are so many guys combo Type D with Type A's core. Also, the plastic is not ABS.
Precisely. I bought a type (d) after they were reported to be very good. Anyone that has opened it will see that the springs and part of the centre piece's design dictate that it can't cut corners well. Getting some decent springs in there would start to help. The ones it comes with are utter rubbish! They compress into a solid ring which can be compressed no further. However, putting the type a's CORE in doesn't do any help. Just to plastic core piece. Unless I've misunderstood something. They're pretty much identical. Putting type (d) cubies in a type (a) mech (spindle, core, screws, springs).. now that might work?
 

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liukaipeng,

Which big cities? I can't find any in Xi'an.

Could you post the links for other Chinese cube shop sites?

Do all shops use the same letter scheme? Are your A and C's the same A and C's on cube4you? How can you not sub-20 using A in competition? I find that hard to believe. Are you saying C is better than A?

is A-II any good compared to A? (I use A and think it's pretty nice. Very easy to sub-20 even without lube.)
 

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It's all about the cuber, not the cube. I have never gotten a DIY to fit with my solving style. DIYs seem to specialize in fast turning as opposed to smooth overall movement, which is what I prefer. Besides, it is possible to get a store cube that barely needs any breaking in. Unfortunately it involves getting really lucky (or opening a whole bunch of cubes until you get a good one and then selling the rest to your cube students).

I suppose I could experiment with different combinations of pieces and cores and axles, but I don't have enough cubes to do that. I did find one combination that seemed promising with a store-bought axle and DIY pieces though.
The cube I'm using would best be described as smooth and soft.
Its a combo DIY cube though.
 

liukaipeng

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liukaipeng,

Which big cities? I can't find any in Xi'an.

Could you post the links for other Chinese cube shop sites?

Do all shops use the same letter scheme? Are your A and C's the same A and C's on cube4you? How can you not sub-20 using A in competition? I find that hard to believe. Are you saying C is better than A?

is A-II any good compared to A? (I use A and think it's pretty nice. Very easy to sub-20 even without lube.)

Cities: Beijing, Guangzhou... I've got no idea about Xi'an
Links: www.taobao.com. If you can read Chinese (or you are Chinese ...), search for rubik' cube in Chinese.
A-II: It is reported to be good. However, as you known, reviews are often written by who sell cubes. And I believe that's a preliminary product just like Type A mode 1,2,3..

letter scheme: Of course they don't call them A.B.C.. in China, each one of them have a corresponding Chinese name.
 

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I know that type f is made by sheng en.

EDIT: I also know that type a and c have no brand names. they are called guo jia, guo bing (direct translation: country a, country c) meaning type a of china, type c of china. type c is the rubik's.com diy imitation.

sheng en website: www.sheng-en.cn (will redirect to a taobao page)
 
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liukaipeng

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In fact, Type B (GuoYi) is made by the same factory of Type F (sheng-en), so if it would got a brand, it should be “Sheng-En”

let's see what we got so far:

Type A: :) GuoJia
Type B: :( GuoYi
Type C: ;) GuoBing (Rubik's DIY imitation)
Type D: :D YongJun (a.k.a. YUGA, Item No.: YJ170988)
Type E: :cool: DianSheng
Type F: :rolleyes: ShengEn
to be continued...

I know that type f is made by sheng en.

EDIT: I also know that type a and c have no brand names. they are called guo jia, guo bing (direct translation: country a, country c) meaning type a of china, type c of china. type c is the rubik's.com diy imitation.

sheng en website: www.sheng-en.cn (will redirect to a taobao page)
 

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liukaipeng,

Which big cities? I can't find any in Xi'an.

Could you post the links for other Chinese cube shop sites?

Do all shops use the same letter scheme? Are your A and C's the same A and C's on cube4you? How can you not sub-20 using A in competition? I find that hard to believe. Are you saying C is better than A?

is A-II any good compared to A? (I use A and think it's pretty nice. Very easy to sub-20 even without lube.)

Cities: Beijing, Guangzhou... I've got no idea about Xi'an
Links: www.taobao.com. If you can read Chinese (or you are Chinese ...), search for rubik' cube in Chinese.
A-II: It is reported to be good. However, as you known, reviews are often written by who sell cubes. And I believe that's a preliminary product just like Type A mode 1,2,3..

letter scheme: Of course they don't call them A.B.C.. in China, each one of them have a corresponding Chinese name.
There's also the online store 9spuzzles,com. That one has english. In Hong Kong, and Beijing, I now there are many stores. Hong Kong has the HK Now store which also has a online website. I've been to some stores in beijing too, they're all pretty good.
 

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BTW, on the Chinese market, there's no Type D.
Seriously? Isn't Cube4you based in China?
Maybe there's some cube that is IN FACT Type D, but being considered as not good for speed cubing. In China, the upstream cube for speed cubing is Type A and C, Type A mode 3, and there a brand new Type A-II ( I have no idea about how the cube4you guys would call it, but you'll surely see it in a few days). In fact Type A is considered not suitable for high speeding cubing, and I've never seen any body sub-20 using it in competitions.

I'm now using a Type C with Type A's screws and springs.

And I'm also very eager to known what Type D REALLY is. Could somebody give me some detail description of it? And I'll identify it for you the ideas about it in China.
What is the Chinese cubing market? I can't see any cubes in any store. The only place I know of is cube4you.com.
Real stores for cube are rare in China. Only in big cities you can find some.
However, there are a bunch of online shops. Unfortunately, there are all in Chinese, except cube4you, which you can read.
Uh... there's many online that are in China.
Rubikfans on ebay
Cubefans
9spuzzles
etc.
 

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