Which cuber has the fastest turn speed?

[Cool Frog]

And he is contradicting a guy whose main method is Roux, one that is known for spamming of M slice moves

Regarding M vs M':

The direction of S is obvious. Clockwise.

As for M and E, it's not that I think they should be reversed (I don't care either way), it's just that I understand why they were established the way that they are. E goes from left to right, and M goes top to bottom.

What angle? M is clockwise... So is M' depending on the angle.

 

[Julian]

What angle? M is clockwise... So is M' depending on the angle.

Please reread my post. S is clockwise, I wasn't talking about M.

 

[uberCuber]

Last time I checked the alphabet, M was following L and E was following D. S is following neither B nor F, though.

this made me lol and go :O at the same time

 

[uberCuber]

Please reread my post. S is clockwise, I wasn't talking about M.

look at it from B, S is not clockwise.

 

[Julian]

look at it from B, S is not clockwise.

Correct.

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

Will Smith

 

[ElectricDoodie]

look at it from B, S is not clockwise.

Thank you for being obvious.

"Guys, my clock turns clockwise."
"No! It depends on the angle! Look at it from the back, and it's not clockwise!"
"..."

 

[uberCuber]

Thank you for being obvious.

"Guys, my clock turns clockwise."
"No! It depends on the angle! Look at it from the back, and it's not clockwise!"
"..."

Dude...I was clarifying the point being made by Cool Frog because Julian obviously didn't get it; I was not making my own point.

And the clock example is stupid because you cannot see the clock face from the back. You can see an S move exactly the same from either side. A clock is moving clockwise because it is moving in that direction from the only set of angles from which you can actually see the clock face. An S, M, or E move cannot be called "clockwise" or "counterclockwise" without an arbitrary rule because those moves are directly in the middle of the cube, and so it is arbitrary which angle you should view them from to determine their direction.

 

[spitcuba]

Me


I think you have to add me
^^

 

[spitcuba]

We are not talking about turns per second, right?

 

[Stefan]

You can see an S move exactly the same from either side.

You need at least two flat or one special mirror, though.

And the clock example is stupid because you cannot see the clock face from the back.

 

[uberCuber]

B should be switched so that clockwise or counterclockwise is judged from the front because nobody actually looks directly at the back of the cube

and I stand corrected with the clock; I was thinking specifically along the lines of an ordinary small hanging on the wall clock

 

[Stefan]

B should be switched so that clockwise or counterclockwise is judged from the front because nobody actually looks directly at the back of the cube

l U l' = R B' R'? No, thanks.

 

[Julian]

Dude...I was clarifying the point being made by Cool Frog because Julian obviously didn't get it; I was not making my own point.

I got it just fine, thanks.

 

[uberCuber]

I got it just fine, thanks.

orly? is that why you responded like this?

What angle? M is clockwise... So is M' depending on the angle.

Please reread my post. S is clockwise, I wasn't talking about M.

He was making the point that whether S is clockwise or not depends on what angle you look at it, exactly the same as the whole M vs. M' argument that Owen loves making. You just respond once again saying "S is clockwise", when it is not a fact, it is arbitrary; that is exactly what Cool Frog was pointing out.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

And the clock example is stupid because you cannot see the clock face from the back.

Stefan got to it before I could point out how stupid this statement was.

Dude...I was clarifying the point being made by Cool Frog because Julian obviously didn't get it; I was not making my own point.

Oh, ok.
Sorry.

 

[uberCuber]

Stefan got to it before I could point out how stupid this statement was.

I admit that my statement was incorrect, but on literally every single clock I ever actually see in my life, you cannot see the clock face from the back.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

I admit that my statement was incorrect, but on literally every single clock I ever actually see in my life, you cannot see the clock face from the back.

I understand, but don't base your argument on what only you have seen yourself, not believing that it's possible simply because of that.
Here are some clocks that you can see which way it's spinning from behind. My grandma has one, too, but I can't find it online.

 

[Julian]

He was making the point that whether S is clockwise or not depends on what angle you look at it, exactly the same as the whole M vs. M' argument that Owen loves making. You just respond once again saying "S is clockwise", when it is not a fact, it is arbitrary; that is exactly what Cool Frog was pointing out.

Alright, I understand your (or Cool Frog's) point a little better now, but still, when you hold the cube at an angle from which S isn't clockwise, the B-face effectively becomes the F-face. That is why I think that S is less arbitrary than M or E.

 

[uberCuber]

when you hold the cube at an angle from which S isn't clockwise, the B-face effectively becomes the F-face. That is why I think that S is less arbitrary than M or E.

It definitely makes sense; Cool Frog, and then I, were just being lolnitpicky about it
And sorry, I just read over my posts again and I definitely sounded more b****y than I wanted to


Woah, just realized how off-topic I just pushed this thread lol...though is there actually any point in continuing discussion on the original topic?