What event would you like to become WCA official?

Multiple choice! Vote for the events you would like to be WCA official.

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Kian said:
Floppy cube is getting very, very simple.
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It's not "getting" very simple - it always was. I used to play with it on IsoCubeSim way before it got mass-produced, and I could see the optimal solution on about half of the scrambles. It wouldn't be hard at all to learn an "alg" for every possible position... doing that in comp would be like doing magic. There's actually a very significant chance (I believe 1/192) of a solved puzzle...
 
soccerking813 said:
The 4x4 OH took me like 15 minutes. But if you use a decent cube, and you are good at OH, I figure you could get sub-2 pretty easily.
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I use a decent cube (Eastsheen, because I feel more comfortable with it than with my Meffert for OH), I'm not that fast at OH and I average around 4 minutes at 4^3 OH, with a PB of 3:30. For a fast solver sub-2 is definitely possible.
But it's not really a new challenge. Everybody who does OH and who can solve a 4^3 can do 4^3 OH.
 
TMOY said:
soccerking813 said:
The 4x4 OH took me like 15 minutes. But if you use a decent cube, and you are good at OH, I figure you could get sub-2 pretty easily.
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I use a decent cube (Eastsheen, because I feel more comfortable with it than with my Meffert for OH), I'm not that fast at OH and I average around 4 minutes at 4^3 OH, with a PB of 3:30. For a fast solver sub-2 is definitely possible.
But it's not really a new challenge. Everybody who does OH and who can solve a 4^3 can do 4^3 OH.
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It's about doing it well though.
Anyone can do 3x3x3 OH, but it doesn't really count if it takes like 20 minutes.
 
qqwref said:
Kian said:
Floppy cube is getting very, very simple.
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It's not "getting" very simple - it always was. I used to play with it on IsoCubeSim way before it got mass-produced, and I could see the optimal solution on about half of the scrambles. It wouldn't be hard at all to learn an "alg" for every possible position... doing that in comp would be like doing magic. There's actually a very significant chance (I believe 1/192) of a solved puzzle...
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I didn't mean the floppy cube was getting simpler, I meant the events that were suggested (in that case floppy cube) were getting very simple.
 
Lord Voldemort said:
It's about doing it well though.
Anyone can do 3x3x3 OH, but it doesn't really count if it takes like 20 minutes.
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Yes, of course. What I meant was that when you're decent at both 3^3 OH and 4^3 speed, then you're decent at 4^3 OH as well. Replace OH by BLD and it's definitely not true. That's why 4^3 BLD deserves to be an official event, because it's really a different challenge. 4^3 OH is not.
 
byu said:
soccerking813 said:
So you are also saying that 2x2 speed should not be an event. Because anyone who can solve the 3x3 in a decent time, you can also solve the 2x2.
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Not true. If they have 5x5 as official, why 7x7? Almost anyone who can solve a 5x5 can solve a 7x7, it just takes longer.
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One reason why I am against 7x7 as an official event.
 
Hang on, that logic works better the other way. The bigger the cube the better, because solving a big cube, for most people, involves the steps needed for the smaller cubes, but the smaller cubes miss steps of the bigger cubes.
 
@Bob: Any chance that Void 3x3x3 would become a official event?

Dene said:
Hang on, that logic works better the other way. The bigger the cube the better, because solving a big cube, for most people, involves the steps needed for the smaller cubes, but the smaller cubes miss steps of the bigger cubes.
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So I guess you’re against the 1x1x1 also? :p How about the 0x0x0?
 
Dene said:
Hang on, that logic works better the other way. The bigger the cube the better, because solving a big cube, for most people, involves the steps needed for the smaller cubes, but the smaller cubes miss steps of the bigger cubes.
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Yeah, imo 3x3 is just the 4x4/5x5 with no center or edge pairing. It's way too easy to be considered a "puzzle" on its own! I say we remove it. No, not really! It's so popular. But it's boring.


More seriously, I'd like to point out the rules we should consider when thinking about new events. To remove an event it should be
- unpopular (so few people would be hurt by its removal), and
- sufficiently simple, silly, or similar to another event that the WCA would look better if it were not in the lineup.
To add an event it should be
- different enough from other events that the list of people who are good at it wouldn't be the same list for some other event, and
- popular enough that the number of people doing it would be at least two or so for a reasonably sized (say 60+ people) competition.
 
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I vote for no void cube, nor floppy, or any variations containing more OH
I do, however, think that the old multi-BLD should be brought back, either in replace of, or in addition to the current

Other than that, Team solving variations would be VERY appreciated by myself
 
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