What event would you like to become WCA official?

Multiple choice! Vote for the events you would like to be WCA official.


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I think if there were to be any new events it would be skewb and mirror blocks, which I hope does happen. I feel like they would not add anymore big cubes bld or 8x8 and 9x9 just because of how long it would take.

Also, not to be a proponent of removing puzzles, but I think feet solving is kind of ridiculous. That is just me. Also, Clock seems a little out of place as an official event. I mean the fact that it is an event is the only reason I want to get one. And think of it this way, if Clock were not an event, how many people would be voting for it? Not sure, that is just me.
 
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I would like to see 8x8 9x9 6bld 7bld as official events.also some puzzles like fisher cube,cuboids,square 2.also i would like 3x3 to have ao12 ie every competitor gets 12solves

Of removing events i would like clock and feet removed.also FMC should be made 30 min and ao5 FMC must be introduced.and surely BLD must be made ao5 (allowing 1 DNF)and 4bld and 5bld must be made mean of 3.

also ao5 3bld allowing 1 DNF and mean of 3 for 4bld and 5bld.6bld looks tough.like FMC before 2013 i think only 1 attempt of 6bld must be given to competitior per competition.as in 6bld the average number of mistakes made under any mood will be almost same..
 
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Of removing events i would like clock and feet removed.also FMC should be made 30 min and ao5 FMC must be introduced.and surely BLD must be made ao5 (allowing 1 DNF)and 4bld and 5bld must be made mean of 3.

I agree with removing feet, and maybe clock too, but both of those ideas have already been discussed at great length. The community isn't going to agree; I've accepted that. Not much point bringing it up again right now, unless you have a reason for removing it that someone else hasn't already come up with.

For BLD, AO5 with one DNF allowed is an awesome idea. Scheduling is a problem, of course, but that's worth a discussion. Good idea. I also think that MO3 for 4 and 5 should be instated, since people are already allowed 3 attempts. Unlike adding an AO5 for 3BLD, there really isn't any downside to making 4 and 5BLD MO3 officlal.

I think FMC should remain one hour, and remain MO3. An hour is a good amount of time to find a solution. 30 minutes isn't enough IMO. I would rather have 3 attempts where I have enough time to do really well than have 5 halfassed attempts.
 
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Bruh.

I would like to see 8x8 9x9 6bld 7bld as official events.also some puzzles like fisher cube,cuboids,square 2.also i would like 3x3 to have ao12 ie every competitor gets 12solves

Of removing events i would like clock and feet removed.also FMC should be made 30 min and ao5 FMC must be introduced.and surely BLD must be made ao5 (allowing 1 DNF)and 4bld and 5bld must be made mean of 3.

also ao5 3bld allowing 1 DNF and mean of 3 for 4bld and 5bld.6bld looks tough.like FMC before 2013 i think only 1 attempt of 6bld must be given to competitior per competition.as in 6bld the average number of mistakes made under any mood will be almost same..

6-9BLD will likely never be official due to lack of popularity.
Fisher Cube is a slower version of 3x3 with twistable equatorial centres that also isn't particularly popular, though I like it.
Cuboids may have something going for them. I don't solve cuboids and wouldn't compete in them if they were to be official. I just wonder which cuboids would be made official, if any, and how that conclusion would be reached.
Square-2 isn't popular enough. It's a cool puzzle though.

3x3 avg12 in competition would be really tough to do from an organisational perspective. It would more than double the amount of time required to run 3x3, especially if multiple rounds were to be implemented. Also, the results would be very inconsistent with results now.

If clock and feet were removed, competitors in those events would undoubtedly be very unhappy. I like to think, "If x event were never an official event, could it become popular enough and remain non-trivial enough to be considered to be one?" I think the answer is 'no' in both cases (due to hypothetical lack of popularity).

If FMC were to have a 30-minute time limit, it would become a different event entirely. The time restraint difference is too drastic. Also, FMC hardly has been run as mo3 because of scheduling 3 hours to hold it. At a 30-minute length with ao5 format, organisers would only "save" 30 minutes and have many more papers to grade. What would likely happen is organisers would be more keen to hold best of 1 or best of 2 for FMC at the 30-minute length. Additionally, the DNF rate for FMC is too high to consider an ao5 format.

BLD as ao5 could work, though it would lengthen the amount of time needed for BLD by at least 66.66%.
4-5BLD as mo3 could NOT work due to lack of popularity, time required to hold mo3, and the sheer difficulty of getting a mo3. That's 3 hours, our current FMC issue.
Then, allowing only one solve for 6BLD at a competition is ridiculous. Are you suggesting a longer time limit for 6BLD? Setting aside that sort of time in any competition is bound to be tough, and no other event currently runs as best of 1 format exclusively.
 
Just came here to say that 3BLD ao5 is not a good idea IMO.
That would force people to do really safety solves to even get an average and that is not as fun as trying to do a solve as fast as you can.
DNFs are part of BLD so same formats that normal speedsolves have is really not that good.

As for other suggestions: 8x8,9x9, and 6bld and up take far too long. Also same for avg12 format...
 
Just came here to say that 3BLD ao5 is not a good idea IMO.
That would force people to do really safety solves to even get an average and that is not as fun as trying to do a solve as fast as you can.
DNFs are part of BLD so same formats that normal speedsolves have is really not that good.
You could say the same thing about 3BLD Mo3... What about doing an Ao3?
 
You could say the same thing about 3BLD Mo3... What about doing an Ao3?

Well mo3 in BLD doesn't determine winners so thats ok. Avg5 would be nice IF AND ONLY IF winners are still decided by single. That would give me 2 more solves every comp :D

But deciding winner by mo3 or avg5 is bad because DNFs will always happen in BLD.

I personally wouldn't really like ao3 either but that is much more reasonable suggestion and I see how it would be good, because it makes meaning of lol-scrambles smaller :)
 
Well both these records are still held in the missing averages section. Why not move them over into the 'official' rankings. I think it could be interesting.

There's a reason they're in the "missing averages" section and not officially recognised.

Think about what that reason is and then form a cogent reply.
 
There's a reason they're in the "missing averages" section and not officially recognised.

Think about what that reason is and then form a cogent reply.

The reason is that someone (WCA board) decided they are not official. Nothing more than that.

Same as 3bld mo3 was. WCA board just decided that it becomes official and it did. Same could be done for 4/5bld mo3.
But I don't really have a strong opinion either way in this subject. I don't really care if they are official or not.
 
The reason is that someone (WCA board) decided they are not official. Nothing more than that.

Same as 3bld mo3 was. WCA board just decided that it becomes official and it did. Same could be done for 4/5bld mo3.
But I don't really have a strong opinion either way in this subject. I don't really care if they are official or not.

I would love to hear a good argument for why they shouldn't be official. Difficult to achieve shouldn't be a reason why they shouldn't be official IMO.
 
8x8x8 & 9x9x9 would take way too long, 10min + per solve.
3x3x2 deviates from standard NxNxN puzzles, if we're going to add this, why not add 3x3x5, 3x3x5, 4x4x3, etce tc
Tetraminx -- effectively a pyraminx.
6 BLD & 7 BLD, again, 5bld already takes forever.
Mastermorphix -- I don't think shapeshifters should be an event, because they don't fit with the others. They're like the odd ones out
Starminx, effectively a megaminx.
Gigaminx, as with 8x8 and 9x9, would take too long.
Square-2 -- Square-1 is already one of the most unpopular events.

I don't think they should add any more events, to quote Feliks, "There's already too many".
 
4-5BLD as mo3 could NOT work due to lack of popularity, time required to hold mo3, and the sheer difficulty of getting a mo3.
Most competitions already allow competitiors 3 attempts. How could it add any time at all? You're not changing the way the competition is run, you're just making an unofficial statistic official... right? I feel like I must be misunderstanding you.
 
I don't see why 8x8 shouldn't be added. In my opinion it's already popular enough and they are on sale in plenty of places. So 8x8 is what I want added next.
I'm a big cube lover also, but I don't think you'll find much support for that. I'm not even convinced it's a good idea, and that's considering that 7x7 is one of my favorite events. 7x7 is already pushing time limits. I think we should keep 7x7 an official event (which a lot of people already disagree with) but let's leave it there for now.

Why don't you start a forum competition specifically for 8x8 and up? Right now, not many people care about speedsolving 8x8. If we can get to where a lot of people are interested in an unofficial 8x8 competition, you'll have much more support for making it official.
 
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