What does it take to get sub 20 average?

[Cuber07]

What did you have to learn to get to that stage? Full OLL and PLL?

 

[Arcanist]

What did you have to learn to get to that stage? Full OLL and PLL?

I knew advanced f2l, OLL, and PLL, but I feel you could reasonably do it with 4LLL. I just learned PLL and OLL early and it's taken me to averaging around 14.

 

[Discomantis]

What did you have to learn to get to that stage? Full OLL and PLL?

I learned full PLL and advanced F2L in order for me to become sub-20.

The main thing that you should focus on is F2L efficiency, as it slows down your times a lot and because it is VERY important. Make sure your OLL and PLL speeds are decent, and make sure you are planning your cross every solve.

After learning that, you can learn lookahead and start learning OLL, but you can become sub-20 before learning that.

 

[Anthonycube]

I knew advanced F2L and at least most of PLL to get sub 20. This is what I’d mostly recommend.

 

[randomness...]

I just learned advanced cross planning when i got my first sub twenty
got comfortable with high tps and knew full PLL
it would help if you learn some basic PLL lookahead but i didnt until sub 19

 

[SpeakCuba]

What did you have to learn to get to that stage? Full OLL and PLL?

I would say, make sure you know 4Look Last Layer. If you do know them already, then learn full PLL. You don't need to learn full OLL yet, however, so don't worry about that. The other thing you would need would most likely be advanced F2L.

 

[siwoo]

comfortably sub 20 with 4LLL.

 

[1x1 wr holder!]

What did you have to learn to get to that stage? Full OLL and PLL?

For me, I average 17 with advanced f2l (knowing how to back slot and memorizing algs for harder pairs), full pll minus the gperms and two look oll.

 

[Exmestify]

You don't need full oll. I average 13 and still dont know it entirely. I'd recommend reducing pauses and seeing your splits (for cross, f2l, oll and pll. can be done by going to option, timer, multi-phase-4) and checking it with this sheet (after creating ur own copy)- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jI56qznJAdqdTXqN9MyuQilijZNi7AIyLQpLjzbLqeA/edit#gid=578524837

 

[Cuber07]

Okay, cool, thanks everyone. I currently average 27 secs and I know a decent amount of F2L, but no where near full. I still use beginner method for both OLL and PLL, so I'll start on learning 2 Look Oll for now and possibly full PLL over the next little while.

 

[LucasPlayz]

For sub-20, I recommend some advanced F2L Tricks, begginer OLL, and full PLL

 

[JDAW6]

Honestly, intuitive f2l is enough for sub20 even now I don’t use advanced f2l. Along as you now 4LLL and your f2l isn’t extremely inefficient you can get sub20.

 

[randomness...]

i dont use any alg-ed F2L and i average 14 now
id learn some good fingertricks too

 

[Discomantis]

Honestly, intuitive f2l is enough for sub20 even now I don’t use advanced f2l.

Yes, advanced F2L isn't nessecary to be sub-20, but it is needed in the long run. Also, if you have efficiency problems with certain cases, you might as well learn an algorithm to correct them.

 

[BirdCubing]

I currently average sub 20 myself and I am almost at sub-15.
If you don't know full PLL, definitely learn that first. I started to learn it very early when I was at sub-45.
You should know most of the OLLs when getting to Sub-20.
You should also make sure that your cross is efficient and every F2L pair is solved also very efficiently.
That's all that I can think of. I was stuck at sub-20 for 1 year so don't give up!

 

[SpeakCuba]

I currently average sub 20 myself and I am almost at sub-15.
If you don't know full PLL, definitely learn that first. I started to learn it very early when I was at sub-45.
You should know most of the OLLs when getting to Sub-20.
You should also make sure that your cross is efficient and every F2L pair is solved also very efficiently.
That's all that I can think of. I was stuck at sub-20 for 1 year so don't give up!

All good points, but you do not need anywhere near full OLL to be sub 20 or even sub-13. 2-Look OLL goes a long way.

 

[randomness...]

i use 2 look on sub 15 averages