What do I learn next?

zigzagchris

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I curently average around 1:20 I am only 13 but i dont know what to learn next to get faster. I use f2L and the beginers other half. I don't have the time to learn oll and pll so is there any thing i should learn first.
 
f2l is the most important part of fridrich in my opinion. i cant sub-20 if i screw up on f2l. pll and oll can come later, when u average around 30+
 
you dont need *time* to learn OLL/PLL per se. Don't be afraid of it, and just learn them one at a time as days go by. Don't set any goals, just have a printout of the algorithms next to your cube or something, and if you see some easy cases that you see are occurring frequently, then just give it a shot... my point is, don't be afraid of it! There is like 20 cases in OLL's that are like really trivial anyway, and can be memorized very easily too.

i learned around 20 OLL cases in a month and I was barely trying... Also, I find that they become easier to learn the more and more you already know.
 
no offense but your schedule is pretty full when you're 13. You have time.
Life is simple people complicate it
 
is 4 look the last four steps the solution guide it comes with?
Thanks for the help I am learning pll and oll exept for oll i do a cross first so i dont need to learn so many oll algs
 
Hello, zigzagchris!
I'm 12 years old, and yea, I can solve it, I average around high 30s.
But I use the edges then corners when doing the OLL, as for the PLL, I used to do the edges then the corners, but now I am trying to learn all of them :)
Goto cubewhiz.com, for the PLLs, they have awesome algs that fit my tiny hands lol!

As for 4 look, i think it means you use your index find to quickly twist the top last layer 4 times around, looking at all the sides quickly and preforming the correct PLL.

By the way...i joined your forum :)
 
As for 4 look, i think it means you use your index find to quickly twist the top last layer 4 times around, looking at all the sides quickly and preforming the correct PLL.

Actually, a 4 look means that you can solve the full LL in 4 looks (1st is EO, 2nd CO, 3rd CP, 4th EP) assuming you solve in that order of course. So full Fridrich would be a 2 look.
 
Actually, a 4 look means that you can solve the full LL in 4 looks (1st is EO, 2nd CO, 3rd CP, 4th EP) assuming you solve in that order of course. So full Fridrich would be a 2 look.

Lol, I guess I'm always doing CFOP with 4LL then :-P

...except when I skip something in LL :-)

Average has gone up to 45 seconds x.x

I seem to find that I can solve it faster in public when I'm on a train or something than when I'm sitting at my desk. Although, I've never got a timer handy on a train... but Cross and F2L recognition definitely seem faster :-/
 
who said that someone who knows a 4 look LL knows OLL? with a 4 look LL in pure form he would only know 10 out of 57 OLL algorithms.
I see OLL being a stage of a fridrich solve, not a specific set of algorithms. if you do eo & co after f2l you have just oriented the last layer, therefore Oriented the Last Layer.

EDIT: ok, next time i have to QFT every of your posts i refer to, johannes91.
 
if you do eo & co after f2l you have just oriented the last layer, therefore Oriented the Last Layer.
I guess I've more or less misunderstood what CFOP means because I thought it's basically pure Fridrich.

Would a basic LBL be CFOP, too? The 'F2L'-stage is just done differently.

EDIT: ok, next time i have to QFT every of your posts i refer to, johannes91.
What do you mean? I don't think I did any big edits. But yes, quoting is a good idea.
 
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if you do eo & co after f2l you have just oriented the last layer, therefore Oriented the Last Layer.
I guess I've more or less misunderstood what CFOP means because I thought it's basically pure Fridrich.

Would a basic LBL be CFOP, too? The 'F2L'-stage is just done differently.
i think of cfop as an acronym for the steps you are doing to solve the cube.
the layer by layer method also works like cross - first 2 layers - orient last layer - permute last layer. I'd say yes, because in cfop you are actually solving the cube Layer by Layer. its basically the same, but fridrich-cfop is more sophisticated :)
 
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