Weekly competition 2009-48

I just sat down to do the second 5x5x5 BLD for this week and realized after about a minute and a half of studying it that it was the same scramble as the first one. Since I did pretty well on the first one, I guess I'll just take a DNF for the second one unless Arnaud sees this in time and gives us a different scramble - I don't think taking an inverse scramble would be very fair for BLD - there might be some similarity that makes it easier.

So, on to the third one, I guess.

Edit: Ugh - a DNF. I didn't reorient because it already had 10 solved center pieces - I haven't checked yet to see if that was a good or bad decision for this scramble. I simply forgot to do a whole location's worth of wings in my rush - my memorization was perfect. :(

Edit 2: I just checked all the 12 non-parity orientations. One had 11 solved centers, and another had 13. But the one with 13 had just 2 centers solved on each face, except one with 3. I think it might have taken me a couple of minutes to find it. So I think I made the right decision not to optimize orientation on this one. I'll keep checking every solve I do, but right now I think it's a pretty good rule that if you have 10 solved centers, you shouldn't try to optimize orientation at all.
 
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I just sat down to do the second 5x5x5 BLD for this week and realized after about a minute and a half of studying it that it was the same scramble as the first one. Since I did pretty well on the first one, I guess I'll just take a DNF for the second one unless Arnaud sees this in time and gives us a different scramble - I don't think taking an inverse scramble would be very fair for BLD - there might be some similarity that makes it easier.

Boy, was I tired when I did the second??? I remember being vaguely familiar with it, thinking ' is this the same, did I scramble the same again?' but somehow convinced myself it was not. I did the second when I ought to have gone to sleep instead. It was so and it is clearly obvious now :)

Give me a third one Arnaud :) :)!
 
2x2: 4.89
(5.50) (4.41) 5.28 4.65 4.75

3x3: 16.68
16.63 16.91 (14.81) 16.50 (17.55)

3x3 Blindfolded:
DNF 2:06.58 DNF

5x5 Blindfolded:
46:56.97 DNS DNS(maybe yet)
btw the first and the second scramble are the same...

3X3 fmc: 41 moves
Solution: U2 B U2 F' R' D2 B U B U B' U R' U R2 U R2 U R U L' U2 L U L' U2 L U M' U' L' U2 R' D2 R U' R' D2 R2 B2

x-cross: U2BU2F'R'D2B(7,7)
f2l#2+#3: UBUB'UR'UR2UR2UR(12,19)
f2l#4+oll: UL'U2LUL'U2LUM'U'L'U2(14,33)
pll: R'D2RU'R'D2R2B2(8,41)
 
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I just sat down to do the second 5x5x5 BLD for this week and realized after about a minute and a half of studying it that it was the same scramble as the first one. Since I did pretty well on the first one, I guess I'll just take a DNF for the second one unless Arnaud sees this in time and gives us a different scramble - I don't think taking an inverse scramble would be very fair for BLD - there might be some similarity that makes it easier.

Boy, was I tired when I did the second??? I remember being vaguely familiar with it, thinking ' is this the same, did I scramble the same again?' but somehow convinced myself it was not. I did the second when I ought to have gone to sleep instead. It was so and it is clearly obvious now :)

Give me a third one Arnaud :) :)!

I'm wondering what happened with Chris. Just a guess: perhaps since he's reorienting now, he reoriented into a different position the second time? Then he could have gone through completely without recognizing he was solving the same scramble. Either that, or his ability to forget is particularly good. :) Chris: I wonder - if you did reorient differently on the second scramble, did you get the good orientation that I found on it that second time? (14 center pieces solved) I was happy that I found the "best" orientation twice in a row (which is what allowed me to recognize it was the same scramble).

Another note: I'm sorry to say that the fifth 7x7x7 scramble this week was not any good for reorienting - the original orientation seemed best - so I didn't get to try reorienting on 7x7x7 this week. (Also I DNFed it by just three wings. :()
 
2x2x2:7.18, 8.49, (5.92), 8.33, (16.72)=8.00
3x3x3:16.52, 16.71, (15.66), 16.86, (17.26)=16.69
4x4x4: 1:45.20, (1:39.70), 1:47.46, 1:42.83, (1:49.75)=1:45.16
Pyraminx: 7.07, (8.49), 8.08, 7.44, (5.74)=7.53
Square-1: (1:12.82), 59.40, (56.89), 1:05.53, 58.77=1:01.23
 
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@Adam, its back on. Where's Pete recently?

I'm still alive, just taking a break from cubing until maybe after xmas. Good times this week James, you're definitely faster than me now, also at 3x3.

Also I've grown a beard !!

I got a little lucky on the f2ls this week I guess. My true avg is 27-28 so you still pip me there. I was secretly frustrated Adam had pulled away from me, so knuckled down on 4x4.

Reference the beard - I'm a trendsetter mate, everyone will grow one soon. Mark my words lol!
 
3x3 16.13, 16.66, 21.71, 16.35, 14.69 avg 16.38
3X3 one handed 41.37, 43.83, 46.08, 44.21, 27.69 43.14= fail avg
Megaminx 2:24.15, 2:19.28, 2:20.58, 2:45.03, 2:29.37 avg 2:24.70
clock 12.42, 16.58, 15.71, 17.34, 14.42 avg 15.57
3x3 blindfolded 4:02.88, 5:13.56, DNF(4:27.11) avg dnf
2x2 blindfolded DNF(58.38), DNF(44.85), DNF(55.82) avg dnf. wow 2x2 bld sucked

Your result are not correctly written. As an example, for 3x3BLD, you should write:
3x3 blindfolded 4:02.88, 5:13.56, DNF(4:27.11) = 4:02.88
Otherwise, you may not be ranked correctly at the end of the competition.

Please read this:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?p=173622#post173622
 
You can edit them. Especially, for OH, you have 6 times in a row, I believe that it may cause problem for the program that compiles results.

Edit: I don't want you to change your results, but the format. You do not DNF 3x3 BLD, since it is a "best of 3", not average, so you have a valid result.
 
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I'm wondering what happened with Chris. Just a guess: perhaps since he's reorienting now, he reoriented into a different position the second time? Then he could have gone through completely without recognizing he was solving the same scramble. Either that, or his ability to forget is particularly good. :) Chris: I wonder - if you did reorient differently on the second scramble, did you get the good orientation that I found on it that second time? (14 center pieces solved) I was happy that I found the "best" orientation twice in a row (which is what allowed me to recognize it was the same scramble).

:fp

Wow, I did not realize it was the same! On the first solve I only had maybe 10 centers solved after reorienting, and I definitely had 12 or more solved on the second one, because I remember being really excited that I had blown by the expected 8 solved centers with a simple reorienting of the cube! Yes I must have done a different orientation the second time, and not have realized it at all!

I would also like a third scramble! Arnaud, hit us 5x5x5 BLD'ers again please, Sir! :)

Chris
 
fmc: D R U' R' U D R2 U' R' U R U F' U F R2 B2 R' B U2 L2 U2 L U B' F' U2 F2 U (29)

explanation:
For inverse scramble
pre-scramble move D2
2x2x3: U' F2 U2 F B U' L' U2 L2 (9)
F2L: U2 B' R B2 R2 F' U' F U' (18)
LL: R' U' R U R2 D' U' R U R' D (29)
pre-move correction D2 (29)

This solution looked easy but actually it wasn't
Is that why so little FMC solutions are posted this week?
So congratz Mike with your 31-mover!

Gus
 
SkateTracker
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3x3x3: 24.21

(22.40)
24.95
23.39
(25.03)
24.29

Ugh, complete garbage. I usually average 20-22. =\

4x4: 1:22.26

1:19.60
(1:25.14)
(1:19.44)
1:24.91
1:22.26

Ehh, about average I guess. Could of been a bit better though.

5x5: 2:36.88

(2:33.71)
2:35.05
(2:39.97)
2:38.83
2:36.76

Pretty bad, I'm usually 2:25-2:30.

2x2-3x3-4x4 Relay: 2:19.36

UGHHH. Terrible, absolutely terrible. I messed up my 2x2 solve, it ended up taking longer than 3x3. Double parity on 4x4, terrible edge paring. meh.

2x2-3x3-4x4-5x5 Relay: 4:48.07

T_T
 
This solution looked easy but actually it wasn't
Is that why so little FMC solutions are posted this week?
So congratz Mike with your 31-mover!
Wow - I'm glad I quit early - I probably just got really lucky. It's so nice when that happens!

And very nice solution. Even with a lucky solve, I must defer to the master.
 
2x2: (7.46) 6.36 (5.46) 5.69 5.75 = 5.94
3x3: (19.31) (12.91) 16.47 13.78 16.15 = 15.47
FMC: 28
pyraminx: 10.75 (10.84) 8.94 10.83 (8.81) = 10.17
clock: (12.97) 19.22 (45.58) 27.71 16.94 = 21.29

Fewest Moves:
Another NISS sub-30!
Scramble: U B2 F2 R2 U B2 U L2 U' L2 F2 R' D U' B U2 R U' F L2 U2
Solution: U2 F R2 L B2 R U2 R' U R F B' R' F R B U B U B' U B U2 B' F U' F' U'

2x2x2: U2 F R2 L B2 (5|5)
2x2x3: R U2 R' U R (5|10)
Triple x-cross: F * R' F R (4|14)
Switch to reverse scramble.
F2L: U F U F' (4|18)
Solve edges: B U2 B' U' B U' B' U' (8|26)

This is a 26-move skeleton: U2 F R2 L B2 R U2 R' U R F * R' F R U B U B' U B U2 B' F U' F' U'. Insert B' R' F R B R' F' R (2|28) at * for 6 (!) move cancellation, giving a 28 move solution.

I love NISS. So many options everywhere! Now I just need to remember how it works, so that I don't need to work out what order to do the scramble and the partial solution each time...
Also I'm on a 4-solve sub-30 streak:
2009-43: 28
2009-45: 29 (NISS)
2009-47: 26
2009-48: 28 (NISS)
I want to compete sometime soon!
 
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Mats B

2x2 17.78 16.22 17.97 15.10 20.26 = 17.32
3x3 53.38 50.14 46.11 51.87 51.61 = 51.21
4x4 12:13 13:32 dnf 9:46 dnf = dnf
done bld
5x5 11:46 10:56 12:02 7:30.22 7:28.30 = 10:04.07
first three done with bld algs only
2-4 relay = 4:11.59
2-5 relay = 13:13:50 2 & 3 & 4 were so good

2x2 bld dnf 31.70 dnf = 31.70 :)
one good & 2 bad
3x3 bld dnf (1:46) dnf 2:26.59 = 2:26.59 :(
4x4 bld dnf dnf 13:33 = 13:33 :(
5x5 bld dnf dnf (23:05) dnf = DNF
the second had two +-centres swapped
Multi 6/6 = 6 in 46:51 Good :)
 
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Mike Hughey:

2x2x2: 14.25, 11.22, 7.25, 18.25, 8.19 = 11.22
Comment: Horrible.
3x3x3: 29.65, 25.36, 28.43, 21.50, 28.00 = 27.26
Comment: Terrible.
4x4x4: 1:36.59, 1:28.38 [O], 1:20.97, 1:29.19, 1:32.15 [OP] = 1:29.91
Comment: Awesome.
5x5x5: 2:39.05, 2:31.84, 2:46.72, 2:33.40, 2:36.46 = 2:36.30
Comment: Average.
6x6x6: 5:53.75 [P], 6:01.53 [P], 6:10.37 [OP], 6:12.08 [O], 36:14.69 [16:28] = 6:07.99
Comment: Hideous. BLD was exciting, though. In the second location for obliques, I "jumped rooms" and solved the wrong location (3 images). When I went on to the next location, I realized I was in the wrong room, so I was able to undo the 3 commutators from the wrong location and correct it. It could have been a pretty fast solve if it weren't for that mistake. It was nice to get another successful big BLD solve, though - I've had pretty bad accuracy lately. I realized today that one thing which makes the DNFs less difficult to take is that there are essentially two "reward moments" in a big BLD solve. The second one is obvious - when you pull off the blindfold and it's solved, that's the best feeling. But the first one is actually pretty good even if the second one is a disappointment: when you finally get to the last location and are able to recall that last image, you realize you have remembered the entire cube - it's more a feeling of relief than exhilaration, but it's still really nice when you do that last recall - I do love that feeling.
7x7x7: 8:13.81, 7:28.80, 7:33.70, 7:37.60, DNF [54:07.80, 27:34] = 7:48.37
Comment: Mediocre. BLD was off by just 3 outer wings. By reapplying the scramble, I was able to figure out that I had swapped two images at a location – when I refreshed my memory I already had them swapped, so the problem was on my initial memorizing. I didn’t reorient – it looked really good with normal orientation. On reapplying the scramble I checked – there were 28 center pieces solved with the normal orientation, and the best possible non-parity alternate orientation had 29 center pieces solved (by applying x’ y), so I think I made the right decision to not reorient. It was kind of a disappointment that I wasn’t able to reorient on my first 7x7x7 BLD after learning the new technique.
2x2x2 BLD: 30.46, 32.58, 32.75 = 30.46
Comment: Satisfactory.
3x3x3 BLD: 2:13.63, 1:38.58, DNF = 1:38.58
Comment: Typical. On the first one I couldn’t remember the last image – I suspect it was sub-1:30 if it weren’t for that. On the third one I messed up a new algorithm I’m using for a particular set of edges – I still haven’t learned that one well enough yet.
4x4x4 BLD: 8:38.74 [4:29], 8:07.87 [4:23], DNF [8:03.40, 4:17] = 8:07.87
Comment: Disappointing. Third one was off by 6 wings – I missed a setup move undo for r2. I realized it when I did it, but I didn’t know what I needed to do to correct it, so I just gave up and kept going. :(
5x5x5 BLD: 16:29.64 [8:37], DNS, DNF [15:19.60, 8:12] = 16:29.64
Comment: Enjoyable. First one was my first attempt at a 5x5x5 with reorienting to optimize centers. Second one was a duplicate scramble of the first one – I’ll still redo it if Arnaud ever posts another scramble in time. Third one was off by 7 wings – I forgot to do one location. I didn’t optimize orientation because I had 10 good centers. It turns out there was another orientation with 13 good centers, but it was very hard to see because they were so well spread out – 2 centers solved on each face except one with 3 centers solved. I think it was the right decision not to reorient in this case. I’m very happy with my “10 good centers” rule so far.
3x3x3 multiBLD: 7/11 = 3 points, 60:00.00 [37:01]
Comment: Bad. I ran out of time trying to figure out where I memorized wrong on the third cube, but I was almost out of time anyway. Memo was a little quicker than usual, but I paid for it with some memory pauses. The mistakes were small, though - fifth and seventh cubes had the same mistake with my twisting the same two pieces the same wrong direction, eighth cube was off by parity because I continued past a broken-into cycle for an extra piece, and I didn't notice the parity discrepancy, and third cube was also off by parity because of mismemorization. Very disappointing - no matter what I try, it always takes a full hour for me to do 11 cubes.
3x3x3 OH: 49.16, 45.27, 45.68, 45.61, 39.91 = 45.52
Comment: Decent.
3x3x3 WF: 1:56.13, 1:57.69, 1:48.58, 1:36.05, 1:36.56 = 1:47.09
Comment: Acceptable.
3x3x3 Match the scramble: 1:12.06, 1:20.52, 1:15.84, 1:19.19, 1:12.31 = 1:15.78
Comment: Nice.
2-4 relay: 2:15.36 [O]
Comment: Poor.
2-5 relay: 4:57.28
Comment: Good.
Magic: 1.84, 1.69, 1.66, 1.68, 2.56 = 1.74
Comment: Wonderful.
Master Magic: 5.15, 3.90, 3.90, 4.90, 3.88 = 4.23
Comment: Incredible.
Clock: 20.52, 24.09, 19.02, 21.97, 21.68 = 21.39
Comment: Pathetic.
MegaMinx: 3:23.84, 2:54.58, 2:35.93, 2:47.02, 2:48.57 = 2:50.06
Comment: Tolerable.
Pyraminx: 14.38, 12.81, 15.50, 16.46, 14.47 = 14.78
Comment: Consistent.
Square-1: 1:18.11 [P], 1:15.08 [P], 2:03.68 [P], 54.75 [P], 53.05 [P] = 1:09.31
Comment: Demoralizing.
3x3x3 Fewest Moves: 31 moves
Comment: Encouraging. See solution earlier in thread.

@Tim: I think I want to try NISS sometime soon. Your results are very inspiring.
@Mats: I love your 5x5x5 times done with BLD method. It's scary how close those times are to your regular speedsolves.
 
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Odder said:
Pyraminx:
5.04, 4.26, (5.36), 4.31, (3.04) => 4.54
I started out very bad... but it ended okay =)

Fast?
Preety fast!
Wanna watch some of Your pyraminx Vids :P
(edit: Just saw your 4.04 avg. Nice :P)
 
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Victor Larsen
2x2:
20.26, (25.21), (9.42), 14.95, 17.39 = 17.53

3x3:
(28.21), 34.79, 33.37, 32.75, (37.93) = 33.64
The first solve was going terribly, but then I ran into a magically solved PLL; yay luck!

4x4:
2:25.82, 2:22.45, (2:21.04), (2:27.73), 2:25.79 = 2:24.69

5x5:
(5:04.50), 4:17.53, (3:50.46), 4:12.78, 4:05.35 = 4:11.89
A new PB average, twice in a row! We'll see about next week.

3x3OH:
2:07.43, 1:54.62, (1:15.10), 2:11.40, (3:52.37) = 2:04.49
Hey, a new PB with 1:15.10! But I got pretty lucky and had PLL solved again, second time this week. How often is this supposed to happen?

3x3 match:
2:14.56, 2:13.78, DNF(2:51.32), 2:35.76, (2:05.84) = 2:21.37
Wow, I cut last week's average in half. Great improvement!

2-4 relay
3:49.67


2-5 relay
7:56.89
 
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