# Weekly competition 2009-43

#### ardi4nto

##### Member
Yup, at the moment I'm just using my speedsolving PLLs for FM. Most of them are optimal anyway. That one is Ub perm, I usually do it as: R' U R' U', R' U' R' U R U R2. I do plan on learning some more LL stuff for FM tho, because I'm finding Heise LL really difficult to do efficiently at the moment.
Isn't this more useful for fewest moves solving?
B2 U' R L' B2 L R' U' B2 (9 moves), in your solution, edges insertion might help..

I suggest to learn some optimal PLL to use it in fewest moves, I know some optimal algorithm for PLL, this is what I know:

H-perm: R L U2 R' L' F' B' U2 F B (10 HTM)
Ua-perm: B2 U R L' B2 L R' U B2 (9 HTM)
Ub-perm: B2 U' R L' B2 L R' U' B2 (9 HTM)
Ja-perm: L2 D' L' D L' F2 R U' R' F2 (10 HTM)
Jb-perm: R2 D R D' R F2 L' U L F2 (10 HTM)

and 9 moves A-perms that I believe most of us use them

#### Mossar

##### Member
3x3 OH:
21.43 ; 23.61 ; (28.28) ; 24.27 ; (17.59) = 23.10 Last scramble was great... Full Step
2x2:
3,94 ; (4,95) ; (3,30) ; 4,03 ; 4,55 = 4.17 Quite nice...
2x2 BLD:
DNS ; DNS ; 1:26,44

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#### Hays

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3x3x3 Match the scramble
1. R2 D2 L2 F2 L2 D L2 F2 D B L2 D' B2 L' F2 R D' L R' U' F
2. R2 U2 B2 L2 D' R2 D2 U2 F U' B L' F2 D B' U R2 B2
3. L2 F2 U R2 D2 U L2 D2 F2 U L2 F U R2 U' L B' F R U' R
4. L2 R2 U B2 D' L2 F2 U L2 B D' L2 R2 F' D U' L' F2 D' F' L'
5. L2 R2 U B2 D' L2 F2 U L2 B D' L2 R2 F' D U' L' F2 D' F' L'
Did anyone else notice scrambles 4 and 5 are the same?

#### blah

##### brah
3x3x3 Fewest moves: U' B' U D2 R2 F2 D' B' D F D F2 D' L' U' F U F' B' L F L' B L U' F D2 F' U F D2 F2 L' B' (34)

Premove + scramble: B' + B2 R2 B2 L2 U2 B2 R2 D R2 D2 U B U2 F' R U B U' B' R2 F2

2x2x3: U' B' U D2 R2 F2 D' B' D (9/9)
Triple x-cross: F D F2 D' (4/13)
Last slot: L' U' F U F' (5/18)
Niklas: B' L F L' B L F' (6/24)
A-perm + AUF: F U' F D2 F' U F D2 F2 + L' (9/33)
Undo premove: B' (1/34)

Backup solution after ~20 minutes. Didn't bother looking for insertions since 1. it was just a backup solution and 2. there was already some cancellation with the A-perm.

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AWESOME start with inverse scramble that I didn't have time to finish :

Inverse scramble: F2 R2 B U B' U' R' F U2 B' U' D2 R2 D' R2 B2 U2 L2 B2 R2 B2

Pseudo-siamese 2x2x2s: B L B F D U' B' (7/7)
Pseudo-triple x-cross: (R U R' U') or (R2 U R2 U') or (U' B U B') (4/11)

11-move triple x-cross with 3 different continuations!

#### blah

##### brah
3x3x3: (11.64), 13.66, 13.82, (16.46), 12.63 = 13.37
3x3x3 One-handed: 24.24, 25.51, (19.77), (28.73), 27.62 = 25.79
3x3x3 Blindfolded: DNF, 1:26.34(37.55), DNF = 1:26.34

4x4x4: 1:04.78, (1:07.67), 1:04.77, (1:03.20), 1:03.50 = 1:04.35
4x4x4 Blindfolded: 8:14.16(3:38.55), DNF, DNF = 8:14.16

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#### Kian

##### Member
2x2-7.33, 7.19, (7.81), 6.72, (5.19) Average-7.08
3x3- 15.61, (19.29), 17.62, 18.05, (15.52) Average- 17.09
4x4- 55.38, 1:02.38, 1:17.06, 1:06.50, 1:09.38 Average-1:06.09
5x5- 2:17.05, (1:58.85), 2:21.72, 2:13.52, 2:15.73 Average- 2:15.43
7x7- 8:41.75, 8:36.15, 9:01.75, (9:02.66), (7:39.82)Average- 8:46.55
2x2 BLD- 22.35, DNF, 34.58 Best- 22.35
3x3 BLD- 4:34.93, 4:47.82, DNF Best- 4:34.93
4x4 BLD- DNF, DNF, DNS
2-4 Relay- 1:43.85
2-5 Relay- 3:37.57
MTS- (2:01.22), 1:56.47, 1:42.91, (1:41.19), 1:52.02 Average- 1:50.47
3x3 OH- (35.26), 40.94, 39.95, (45.22), 36.10 Average-39.00
Pyraminx- 9.35, (17.81), 10.92, (9.01), 12.13 Average- 10.80
Megaminx- 6:43.94, 6:55.16, (6:58.14), (6:03.28), 6:43.92 Average-6:47.67
FMC- DNF
Magic- (4.27), 2.44, (2.31), 2.59, 2.40 Average- 2.48
Square-1- 1:12.69, 1:08.95, 55.84, 1:04.34, 54.48 Average- 1:03.04
3x3 Feet- (2:35.92), 2:49.82, (3:12.11), 2:42.19, 2:56.77 Average- 2:49.59
MultiBLD- 0/2 0 Points

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#### ardi4nto

##### Member
3x3x3 FMC: 28 moves

Scramble: B2 R2 B2 L2 U2 B2 R2 D R2 D2 U B U2 F' R U B U' B' R2 F2

Solution: U' B' U R2 B2 U2 F2 U2 L2 F U F' L F L' U L U B U B' L' U2 L U L' U L

Explanation:

2x2x2 block: U' B' U R2 B2 (5)

nothing but LL: U2 F2 U2 L2 F U F' L F L' U L U B U B' (16)

LL: L' U2 L U L' U L (7)

Total: 28

I found a 32 moves solution after 10 minutes but it was full step (OLL+PLL after a 17 move F2L), so decided to play a bit with the pairs and worked.

Last weekly's FMC was 32 for me but found it after the deadline.

FMC is fun!
Your solution doesn't solve the cube...
You wrote last pair insertion wrong, it should be U' B' U R2 B2 U2 F2 U2 L2 F U F' L F L' U L U B' U B L' U2 L U L' U L

I don't know whether this count as DNF or not..

#### stefanobevacqua

##### Member
my first post in this forum

3x3: (15.34), 13.71, 13.97, (10.08), 12.41, AVG: 13.36

4x4: 1:13,71, (1:08,16), 1:14,28, (1:25,84), 1:15,83, AVG: 1:14,61

5x5: 2:50,02, (2:17,25), 2:32,65, (2:55,47), 2:27,84, AVG: 2:36,84

#### Olivér Perge

##### Member
Your solution doesn't solve the cube...
You wrote last pair insertion wrong, it should be U' B' U R2 B2 U2 F2 U2 L2 F U F' L F L' U L U B' U B L' U2 L U L' U L

I don't know whether this count as DNF or not..
Thanks! I corrected it.

#### TMOY

##### Member
FMC: 35 moves
z L' d' D' l2 L d L2 U2 y L' E' L l2 (13): corners (up to 2 moves) + 5 edges
y' E L' E' L D' R2 (8): 1 more edge and finish corners
D L E L' B2 L" E' L E B2 U2 (14): last 6 edges
Good start but no way to find a good finish

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#### Mike Hughey

Staff member
Mike Hughey:
2x2x2: 12.94, 5.09, 7.66, 11.93, 9.19 = 9.59
3x3x3: 23.38, 24.33, 24.50, 28.80, 22.61 = 24.07
4x4x4: 1:35.56 [P], 1:39.28 [OP], 1:24.43 [P], 1:37.27 [OP], 1:31.56 [OP] = 1:34.80
5x5x5: 2:46.46, 2:27.16, 2:32.11, 2:58.44, 2:24.33 = 2:35.24
6x6x6: 5:37.08 [O], 5:10.66, 5:20.05, 5:21.44 [P], DNF [33:40.97, 15:10] = 5:26.19
Comment: BLD solve was off by 2 wings plus the whole inner r2 slice along with the two wings at FD and BU on that slice. I memorized wrong. I tried to guess at the correct solution, and obviously guessed incorrectly. It’s a shame; this one might have been sub-30 if it weren’t for the memory problem – I spent a long time trying to figure out what to do.
7x7x7: 8:02.72, 7:19.70, 7:17.72, 7:13.39, DNF [48:11.59, 22:52]= 7:33.38
Comment: BLD was off by 2 obliques, 3 inner + centers, 4 centrals, 8 outer wings, and a U layer turn. I was hurrying because I thought I had a chance at the UWR (it was a really fast solve for me), and I couldn't remember one of the locations for the last set of wings, so I skipped on to the centrals, and in my haste, I couldn't remember whether I had done a setup move or not. I guessed wrong. So then I messed up the centrals on the top layer and the remaining wings. I guess it's not so bad, since I had already messed up 5 center pieces anyway. And I wasn't quite fast enough for that UWR, either.
2x2x2 BLD: DNF [45:06], 36.25, 30.25 = 30.25
Comment: First one off by 3 corners.
3x3x3 BLD: 1:39.97, 2:14.91, 1:57.25 = 1:39.97
Comment: Second one had a bad memory pause; it might have been the fastest one otherwise.
4x4x4 BLD: 7:29.84 [4:06], 8:12.60 [4:07], 8:06.42 [3:50] = 7:29.84
Comment: I’m on a good streak with 4x4x4 BLD.
5x5x5 BLD: 16:36.70 [9:25], DNF [18:19.19, 9:58], DNF [14:25.97, 7:46] = 16:36.70
Comment: Second one was off by 3 X centers; third one was off by 3 corners – I memorized C instead of D. Sad – it could have been another sub-WR solve.
3x3x3 multiBLD: 10/10 = 10 points, 51:52.21 [35:23]
Comment: Wow, ten is just so easy this way! It was even easier this time than last week. It looks like my memo time is as slow as always, but really I think I am memorizing much faster; I'm just using the extra time to go over my memorization again and again because I know I have time for that now. If I pushed myself, I could probably do 13 or more, but it would be uncomfortable on the memorization and I'd have to have a good day. This feels nice, knowing I can do a safe ten now!
3x3x3 OH: 49.81, 52.43, 44.18, 58.78, 41.19 = 48.81
3x3x3 WF: 2:09.18, 1:31.09, 1:23.72, 1:50.75, 1:56.91 = 1:46.25
3x3x3 Match the scramble: 1:29.55, 1:08.81, 1:23.02, 1:12.93, 1:40.16 = 1:21.83
Comment: Used inverse scramble for last one.
2-4 relay: 2:11.40 [P]
2-5 relay: 5:01.96 [OP]
Magic: 1.65, 1.66, 2.00, 1.97, 2.31 = 1.88
Master Magic: 4.27, 5.08, 4.11, 4.77, 4.80 = 4.61
Clock: 20.34, 19.33, 23.38, 22.72, 23.27 = 22.11
MegaMinx: 2:57.66, 2:51.50, 2:38.08, 3:33.83, 2:44.90 = 2:51.35
Pyraminx: 9.31, 18.50, 20.38, 11.81, 18.55 = 16.29
Square-1: 56.41 [P], 48.94 [P], 56.86 [P], 1:44.75 [P], 49.63 [P] = 54.30
3x3x3 Fewest Moves: 32 moves
Comment: See solution earlier in thread.

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#### guusrs

##### Member
3x3: (16.08) (24.81) 18.53 16.81 17.91 ==> 17.75

fmc: F' B2 D U2 L' B' L U' F2 B2 U'D L2 D U2 R2 F R F' U2 R2 U R2 U R2 U2 R' U D (29)

Explanation:
F2L minus pair: F'B2 D U2 L' B' L U' F2 B2 U'D L2 D (14)
last pair + LL alg: U2 R2 F R F' U2 R2 U R2 U R2 U2 R' U D (29)

found many nice starts on inverse scramble but nothing with nice (forward or inverse) continuation

Congratz 'Champ' Oliver!
I overlook straight Fridrich solves too often...

Gus

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#### guusrs

##### Member
FMC is fun!
Hi Olivér,

Nice to hear from you on this forum!
If you like you could also try Per's weekly FMC competitions at http://fmc.mustcube.net
I compete almost every week.

Gus

#### Cride5

Yup, at the moment I'm just using my speedsolving PLLs for FM. Most of them are optimal anyway. That one is Ub perm, I usually do it as: R' U R' U', R' U' R' U R U R2. I do plan on learning some more LL stuff for FM tho, because I'm finding Heise LL really difficult to do efficiently at the moment.
Isn't this more useful for fewest moves solving?
B2 U' R L' B2 L R' U' B2 (9 moves), in your solution, edges insertion might help..

I suggest to learn some optimal PLL to use it in fewest moves, I know some optimal algorithm for PLL, this is what I know:

H-perm: R L U2 R' L' F' B' U2 F B (10 HTM)
Ua-perm: B2 U R L' B2 L R' U B2 (9 HTM)
Ub-perm: B2 U' R L' B2 L R' U' B2 (9 HTM)
Ja-perm: L2 D' L' D L' F2 R U' R' F2 (10 HTM)
Jb-perm: R2 D R D' R F2 L' U L F2 (10 HTM)

and 9 moves A-perms that I believe most of us use them
Nice algs! Very easy to remember, thanks

#### Erik

##### Member
Erik:
2: 3.62, 4.50, (2.88), (5.20), 3.47 => 3.86 hmf
3: 10.89, (15.22), 11.59, 10.70, (9.19) = > 11.06, new cube
sq: 34,69, (29.12), (36.59), 34.64, 32.64 => 33.99 why am I still doing this thing?
4: 54,52, (1:02.74), 47.09, 50.78, (44.04) => 50.80 new cube and new method so not THAT bad..
5: (1:15.14), 1:23.66, 1:22.78, (1:24.95), 1:19.03 => 1:21.82 um yeah I suck
3BLD: DNF, 1:58.84, 1:49.23 => 1:49.23 I'm getting better

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#### ManasijV

##### Member
3x3: 13.20, 14.58, 14.35, 14.58, 13.36
Average: 14.10
The counting 13 made it a decent average. All non lucky solves.

3x3 OH: 28.04, 29.78, 19.66, 26.16, 24.65
Average: 26.28
19.66 is my first sub 20. PLL skip Easy X cross on the last one.

3x3 BLD: 2:00.43, 2:26.33, DNF
This is done after not doing BLD for more than a week. Second one I forgot memo had to depend on visual memo. Last one edges were finished at 1:25 I forgot the corners.

3x3 Multi BLD: 2/2 5:54.66
I need to buy more cubes.

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#### Stini

##### Member
2x2x2: 7.84 (8.14) (5.78) 8.05 6.97 = 7.62
3x3x3: 18.83 (19.91) 19.34 (18.27) 19.20 = 19.12
4x4x4: 1:21.16 (1:29.69) 1:18.83 1:23.55 (1:16.83) = 1:21.18
5x5x5: 2:25.48 (2:18.03) 2:24.03 (2:46.41) 2:35.45 = 2:28.32
7x7x7: 7:28.98 7:46.59 (7:25.14) 7:59.92 (8:17.88) = 7:45.16
3x3x3-OH: 30.27 38.00 (45.00) 37.45 (27.98) = 35.24
FMC: = 32 HTM
2x2x2 + 3x3x3 + 4x4x4: 1:54.64
2x2x2 + 3x3x3 + 4x4x4 + 5x5x5: 4:32.12
Magic: 3.37 (3.81) 1.87 (1.38) 2.20 = 2.48
Master Magic: 4.59 (4.47) (DNF) 6.95 6.29 = 5.94
Megaminx: 3:18.59 3:01.62 2:59.53 (DNF) (2:46.38) = 3:06.58
Pyraminx: (12.55) (19.84) 15.86 13.39 15.48 = 14.91

FMC-solution: U' B' U R2 B2 U' F2 U L B' L F2 L' B L F2 L' F U' B L' B' L' U L2 U2 L' U2 L U L' U2. Fun scramble this week, I didn't have time to find a good insertion though.

#### Brunito

##### Member
Pyraminx: 5.53 (3.75) 4.53 (6.52) 4.52 = 4.86 normal average at home

#### HaraldS

##### Member
3x3x3-
20.15, 21.46, 23.27, (24.38,) (15.33)-non lucky) = 21,63

2x2x2-
(8.15), 6.57, (5.77,) 7.53, 6.74 = 6,94

3x3x3 oh-
42.36, 41.80, 41.75, (39.51,) (45.80) =41,97)first time ive done a average of 5 onehanded and the results where surprising i though i average around 45