[Video] Roux as a Beginner Method

[philipneri]

DeeDubb, on your Walkthrough Solves #2 video during your third solve (approximately at the 7:07 mark), you do an algorithm for orienting 2-edges on the U layer. Is it (R U R' U') M' U R U' r'?

 

[obelisk477]

DeeDubb, on your Walkthrough Solves #2 video during your third solve (approximately at the 7:07 mark), you do an algorithm for orienting 2-edges on the U layer. Is it (R U R' U') M' U R U' r'?

That is correct

 

[DeeDubb]

DeeDubb, on your Walkthrough Solves #2 video during your third solve (approximately at the 7:07 mark), you do an algorithm for orienting 2-edges on the U layer. Is it (R U R' U') M' U R U' r'?

Yes, it's an OLL algorithm. I learned that from Waffo's page. I'm not sure that it's faster than doing the standard version, but I do it anyway. I use algs for 2 Flip, Six Flip, and Dots case (4 opposite centers).

 

[TheOneOnTheLeft]

Yes, it's an OLL algorithm. I learned that from Waffo's page. I'm not sure that it's faster than doing the standard version, but I do it anyway. I use algs for 2 Flip, Six Flip, and Dots case (4 opposite centers).

I recommend you learn to do it with MU as your go-to, just because the capacity to influence UL/UR is so much greater. That alg is a good option to have, but unless you know it'll give you favourable positions for UL/UR then your LSE overall will probably be quicker using the MU version. Good LSE has a lot to do with blending the steps together, and using a one-case, one-alg approach can really hold you back from taking advantage of that.

 

[CubeCow]

Wish I could get this written.

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html

 

[TDM]

http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html

That doesn't teach it as a beginner's method.

 

[Ross The Boss]

That doesn't teach it as a beginner's method.

id say it provides enough information to teach somebody who has never solved before. they would just need to use their head-brain-thing a little bit.

EDIT: no, never mind. i forgot that cube notation is not common knowledge... but apart from that, the animations and text explanations are pretty easy.

 

[TDM]

id say it provides enough information to teach somebody who has never solved before. they would just need to use their head-brain-thing a little bit.

EDIT: no, never mind. i forgot that cube notation is not common knowledge... but apart from that, the animations and text explanations are pretty easy.

I still think that a beginner would find it hard. I don't think the person asking would find it too hard to understand, but for someone with no cubing experience at all I definitely don't think it's a good place to start. The first step doesn't have much information on blockbuilding, and the second step has lists of algs which I would find a bit intimidating if I was just learning to (or had just solved) a cube. Step 3 doesn't have an easy method for a beginner. The LSE part doesn't look too bad though.

 

[OrigamiCuber1]

I haven't seen this yet but I am aware that there is a decent tutorial on the lubix website

 

[Chree]

Yes, it's an OLL algorithm. I learned that from Waffo's page. I'm not sure that it's faster than doing the standard version, but I do it anyway. I use algs for 2 Flip, Six Flip, and Dots case (4 opposite centers).

I just started playing around with Roux and I find your material really helpful. So thanks!

anyway... for that case, I've been doing M U' M' U M U' M'. For the inverse case of that OLL I've been using M U' M' U'2 M U' M'... which was actually the first alg I learned for that OLL case anyway.

What do you use for the 6 flip?

 

[TDM]

For the inverse case of that OLL I've been using M U' M' U2' M U' M'

You can replace the Ms with M's if you want a slightly better alg.

 

[Chree]

You can replace the Ms with M's if you want a slightly better alg.

Holy crap... roux is awesome.


Edit: and I saw someone posted some really nice 6 flip algs on the Request an Alg thread.

 

[h2f]

What do you use for the 6 flip?

There's a movie on DeeDubb's chanel:

 

[rowan]

I still think that a beginner would find it hard. I don't think the person asking would find it too hard to understand, but for someone with no cubing experience at all I definitely don't think it's a good place to start. The first step doesn't have much information on blockbuilding, and the second step has lists of algs which I would find a bit intimidating if I was just learning to (or had just solved) a cube. Step 3 doesn't have an easy method for a beginner. The LSE part doesn't look too bad though.

I learned Roux from this with no prior cube knowledge (other than reading). I think it's a good guide, when something confused me I just searched on Speedsolving. I learned notation from the wiki. I also just solved corners with Sune and Niklas. I did disregard the color neutrality approach based on Thom's write up. Also helpful was looking at reconstructions reconstructions.

There may not be an all encompassing text resource for Roux as a beginner's method, but I think gathering information from a variety of sources is more beneficial anyway. Maybe a page documenting various links might be useful because I can see how watching 75 minutes worth of videos might not work for some. Regardless, text is more concise.

 

[biscuit]

I learned roux with yyour videos. What is the most important thing to learn next? CMLL?

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

I learned roux with yyour videos. What is the most important thing to learn next? CMLL?

Proper two look CMLL imo if you want to start speedsolving it

 

[biscuit]

Proper two look CMLL imo if you want to start speedsolving it

by that what do you mean? Do you mean learning optimal algs for two look? At that point why not just start learning full CMLL?

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

by that what do you mean? Do you mean learning optimal algs for two look? At that point why not just start learning full CMLL?

the algs he teaches here for corners aren't proper 2look CMLL, look it up on Lubix Cube or Waffo's site

 

[biscuit]

I am not using he's algs I'm using the OLL and PLL algs I use for CFOP I understand that the are not optimal. At this point why not just start learning full CMLL? Is there a reason other than timer?