US Nationals 2013 [Cancelled]

[Tyson]

We are not a bunch of incompetent fools. We evaluate quite a bit when we consider where one of the most popular tournaments in the world is held. You cannot imagine how many emails we exchange almost literally every day in preparation for a tournament which will be held more than a year from now. Nobody makes a dime off it and everybody spends countless hours preparing, nevermind the time spent actually running the competition so that it is excellent every year.

You are not (and will not be) privy to the numbers but be sure that you are unbelievably far off in estimating how much we take in and how much we need for the event. We get the best venue we can with the money we work hard to raise through both registration fees and sponsorships. When Shelley tells you the money isn't there, it's not. This is not up for debate.

You'll have to excuse my tone if it sounds a bit condescending or rough, but the attitude you displayed is not new (or unique to only you) and cubers should really understand what goes into this before they flippantly suggest we are incompetent or dismiss what we have to say. The tournament is great every year because the organizers/staff do the work to make it great. You should be thankful that you are afforded such an opportunity yearly.

It's this type of dialog that basically keeps me limiting my time spent on these forums. Such a waste of time, as there are important points that could be made, but instead they're wasted on someone who doesn't do any thinking.

And by the way, 2011 registration fees were LESS than the cost of the venue + the cost of the prizes.

 

[shelley]

We should probably just stop creating these threads. It doesn't generate enough productive discussion to be worth it.

 

[TheAwesomeAlex]

how about instead of NYC, we could possibly hold it near NYC, like NJ or Long Island.

 

[drewsopchak]

We are not a bunch of incompetent fools. We evaluate quite a bit when we consider where one of the most popular tournaments in the world is held. You cannot imagine how many emails we exchange almost literally every day in preparation for a tournament which will be held more than a year from now. Nobody makes a dime off it and everybody spends countless hours preparing, nevermind the time spent actually running the competition so that it is excellent every year.

You are not (and will not be) privy to the numbers but be sure that you are unbelievably far off in estimating how much we take in and how much we need for the event. We get the best venue we can with the money we work hard to raise through both registration fees and sponsorships. When Shelley tells you the money isn't there, it's not. This is not up for debate.

You'll have to excuse my tone if it sounds a bit condescending or rough, but the attitude you displayed is not new (or unique to only you) and cubers should really understand what goes into this before they flippantly suggest we are incompetent or dismiss what we have to say. The tournament is great every year because the organizers/staff do the work to make it great. You should be thankful that you are afforded such an opportunity yearly.

What was brought in in 2011? It's a simple question, sir.

 

[cubernya]

Contacted some hotels, and two common questions were asking what the budget was and asking how many rooms would be needed.

Also, how big should the area be?

 

[shelley]

What was brought in in 2011? It's a simple question, sir.

Do you really need to know more than this?

Your estimate of registration fee revenue [ed. note: which has since been deleted, but you should know that figure] is over 3 times as high as the actual number we brought in in 2011.

And by the way, 2011 registration fees were LESS than the cost of the venue + the cost of the prizes.

 

[Tyson]

Due to some circumstances, it appears there is a good chance that US 2013 will not happen. If someone wants to step up and organize it, they should talk to a WCA delegate.

 

[Mikel]

Due to some circumstances, it appears there is a good chance that US 2013 will not happen. If someone wants to step up and organize it, they should talk to a WCA delegate.

Oh no! That is unfortunate to hear.

 

[MirzaCubing]

Due to some circumstances, it appears there is a good chance that US 2013 will not happen. If someone wants to step up and organize it, they should talk to a WCA delegate.

WHAT?!?!?! WHY?!

 

[DaveyCow]

OSU's student union is pretty magnificent.

It is - I was actually thinking about this several months ago - wasn't sure about the lighting though...

 

[rubixwiz031]

Nationals 2013 CANCELED

Im sorry to break the bad news but... Nationals 2013 has been canceled. Bob Burton has just told all of Captains Cove 2012 that it is canceled due to lack of funding and support.

 

[Godmil]

Kickstarter?

 

[onlyleftname]

Wow. That seriously sucks.

 

[Mikel]

Tyson posted earlier about this in the US Nationals 2013 thread. It is sad to hear because I have never been to a US Nationals competition and I don't know if I will be going to it this year. If only there was something us cubers could do to band together and help out. Fundraising efforts or something?

 

[RaresB]

Increase registration fee?

 

[cubersmith]

Increase registration fee?

moar?

 

[RaresB]

moar?

well if you need funds it's either that, or sponsors

 

[asportking]

Has it "officially" been canceled, or is there still some hope in resurrecting it if we ("we" as in speedcubers) somehow managed to get enough money together?

 

[rubiksguy]

Fellow cubers:

There is a theatre in my hometown of Anacortes, WA at the Anacortes High School called Brodniak Hall. I should have some pretty significant pull with regards to being able to rent it out during the summer, since I was involved in the theatre program for my entire 4 years, hosted a talent show there, etc. It's basically a replica of what we had at Stanford Nats '09. Fits 800 people.
Our city has about 4 hotels no further from each other and the hall than 10 min. And my best friend owns a Chinese restaurant that is the best Chinese food around. Anacortes has everything that we could need, short of a cubing store.
I mentioned this set up in the Seattle Cubing Society thread, and thought I would bring it here. Alex, Nick Vu, and probably Frank Morris could help out with this. Not to mention everyone else in Vancouver, Canada and WA.

Call me for info if you guys want.
360-391-5602. I want to make this happen, and will need help.

Jameson O
And since WA has had very few competitions, this would be cool.


edit: Also, I know that there is A LOT of work and organization that goes into this. It isn't something small.

 

[hcfong]

If funding an annual US Nationals competition is the problem, it may be an idea to have a biennial North American Championship in the years between the Worlds. This will give the organisers more time to find funding. As far as I know, there is no continental championship for North America.