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In megaminx, I had a timer malfunction which was written as a DNF on my results sheet, but was later decided that I would get an extra attempt. That solve was written in the extra attempt space, yet on the full results sheets, my DNF was still included and the extra attempt wasn't, which made my average slower, would it be possible to get this changed?
 
ben1996123 said:
In megaminx, I had a timer malfunction which was written as a DNF on my results sheet, but was later decided that I would get an extra attempt. That solve was written in the extra attempt space, yet on the full results sheets, my DNF was still included and the extra attempt wasn't, which made my average slower, would it be possible to get this changed?
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I was not even made slightly aware of this so I'm sorry about how it was handled if you were a bit confused with what was happening. Can you tell me what the timer read when it was a malfunction? If what appears on the website does not match what was on your score card, I can certainly do my best to get that changed as I have all of the scorecards here. I also hope you signed the sheet somewhere in this process to show that everything happening was accurate rather than you having a judge who didn't know what they were doing. It would also help if you told me who dealt with this whole process so I can speak to them if necessary.
 
CharlieCooper said:
I was not even made slightly aware of this so I'm sorry about how it was handled if you were a bit confused with what was happening. Can you tell me what the timer read when it was a malfunction? If what appears on the website does not match what was on your score card, I can certainly do my best to get that changed as I have all of the scorecards here. I also hope you signed the sheet somewhere in this process to show that everything happening was accurate rather than you having a judge who didn't know what they were doing. It would also help if you told me who dealt with this whole process so I can speak to them if necessary.
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I was the judge but I was well aware of my lack of experiance so the moment he DNF'd by starting and stoping the timer then making moves, I told a srambler and asked if I'd done the right thing. I cant remember who it was but I think they made the decision to re-scramble the puzzle from the slightly solved state and let him have a retry. I wasnt the judge of the second solve so I don't know about what happened after that :/
 
flan said:
I was the judge but I was well aware of my lack of experiance so the moment he DNF'd by starting and stoping the timer then making moves, I told a srambler and asked if I'd done the right thing. I cant remember who it was but I think they made the decision to re-scramble the puzzle from the slightly solved state and let him have a retry. I wasnt the judge of the second solve so I don't know about what happened after that :/
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Hm, okay that isn't really the way that it should have been dealt with. Not your fault though, I doubt you had this explained to you. If you could remember who it was that would be really helpful, even a description if you don't know the name!
 
CharlieCooper said:
I was not even made slightly aware of this so I'm sorry about how it was handled if you were a bit confused with what was happening. Can you tell me what the timer read when it was a malfunction? If what appears on the website does not match what was on your score card, I can certainly do my best to get that changed as I have all of the scorecards here. I also hope you signed the sheet somewhere in this process to show that everything happening was accurate rather than you having a judge who didn't know what they were doing. It would also help if you told me who dealt with this whole process so I can speak to them if necessary.
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Er... well actually it didn't even start... But I have a video of the "solve" and you can clearly see that I had my hands on the stackmat for at least a second...

I can't remember who actually judged the DNF, but I know the person who judged the replacement solve was American :)

I'm pretty sure that it was the judge of the DNF and Michael Erskine who decided that I should get an extra attempt; Michael said to just leave it in the semi-solved state and he would do the same scramble (with it already partially scrambled) and that would be the scramble for the extra attempt, I solved that scramble and it was written in the extra attempt space and I signed there.

EDIT: Kinda ninja'd :p
 
If the timer never starts it's a DNF because it's user error not waiting for the green light.

I had to DNF one of Sam's clock solves for exactly this reason unfortunately.
 
ben1996123 said:
Er... well actually it didn't even start... But I have a video of the "solve" and you can clearly see that I had my hands on the stackmat for at least a second...

I can't remember who actually judged the DNF, but I know the person who judged the replacement solve was American :)

I'm pretty sure that it was the judge of the DNF and Michael Erskine who decided that I should get an extra attempt; Michael said to just leave it in the semi-solved state and he would do the same scramble (with it already partially scrambled) and that would be the scramble for the extra attempt, I solved that scramble and it was written in the extra attempt space and I signed there.

EDIT: Kinda ninja'd :p
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Okay, thanks for the info. You were wrong to have an extra attempt if it didn't start at all (I think) and although it is on video, I don't think we are supposed to use video evidence to make calls about results (someone correct me if I am wrong) so that won't be helpful. Would have been good to ask a delegate such as Lars or Dave about this on the day or at least asked me to ask them for their advice, just for future reference! It should have been a DNF, so if that is on the spreadsheet, that is correct. I'm sorry that you have been messed around with that.
 
I may be wrong but im pretty sure the timer started then stopped at a lowish number like 1.70 or something?
 
WCA said:
A4d) The competitor starts the solve by confirming that the timer light is green, then removing his hands from the timer, thus starting the timer.
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The way I read into this is that unless you can prove the green light did show, you didn't wait long enough, and thus made moves before the solve started.
 
DYK...

-UK competitions are the best and get better every time?
-Even though i'm always the most sleep deprived at them?
-I slept for nearly 20 hours last night?
-I've tried for 4 years to get my family into cubing and after this comp they finally want to learn?
-I really need to stop lending people 3x3s?
-I think we can now safely say Rowan is really quite good at cubes?
-Its because he can do U2'? (amongst other stuff)
-I flew with him to Bristol?^^ *honoured*
-Rob finally got his sub 40?
-He was kind enough to get OLL parity and not break my NR?:P
-He had a 1:13 reduction on 5x5 and still finished with a 1:24?
-Amos has great cubes and algs?
-I will miss him alot?:(
-So will everyone else?
-I'm not completely alone in the Glasgow area?(Matthew:D)
-Other cubers are also not too far away?(Rowan, Axel, Conrad:D)
-Conrad has completely convinced me that ZZ is faster than Fridrich?
-Even if it isnt its WAY more fun?
-Matthew knows lots of nice OLL parity tricks?
-Together me and Chris can make up good algs for bad OLL parity cases in <2 mins?
-Charlie wasnt lying about that survey?(<3)
-She still has my trophy from EC?
-She deserves it much more for these competitions than i do for one solve anyway?
-Her way of describing people is hilarious?(btw sorry for hitting you on the head!)
-So is Agassi?
-We will all miss him too?:(
-Conor and Conrad could both kill you with a Business card?
-Conor should punch sky news?
-Conrad is amazing at pool?
-Thom is either amazing or terrible at pool?(and btw has easily the sexiest solving style)
-Joey sucks at pool?
-But his face is hilarious?
-His fears were confirmed?:P
-Everyone i mentioned above is awesome?
-Everyone i didnt mention above is awesome too?

(Boring stuff about my times etc.)
-My first solve would've been sub 9 but i dropped the cube before finishing the H perm?
-It wouldve been my 3rd comp that started with a sub 9?
-Almost my 4th?(2nd at Lemgo)
-I had an OLL skip in the first round but of course it was the worst G perm from the worst angle and worst AUF?
-So it took me over a second to recognise it?
-So it ended up being 8.58?
-But it was +2 so it ended up as 10.58?
-I got a faster NL single anyway?^^
-And another sub 10 avg?
-Still no "real" PLL skip?:(

Once again, great competition! See you all next time^^
 
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CharlieCooper said:
Okay, thanks for the info. You were wrong to have an extra attempt if it didn't start at all (I think) and although it is on video, I don't think we are supposed to use video evidence to make calls about results (someone correct me if I am wrong) so that won't be helpful. Would have been good to ask a delegate such as Lars or Dave about this on the day or at least asked me to ask them for their advice, just for future reference! It should have been a DNF, so if that is on the spreadsheet, that is correct. I'm sorry that you have been messed around with that.
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:mad:

Eh, oh well :(


flan said:
I may be wrong but im pretty sure the timer started then stopped at a lowish number like 1.70 or something?
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In the video after about 2 seconds, I can clearly hear you say "Your timer didn't start."
 
DYK...

-I arrived in Bristol at 9am but had to wander around in the rainy Bristol until 3pm to check in

-Matthew was the first cuber I met in Bristol

-He was always waiting for his friend whom I never saw in the end

-I couldn't understand Joe & Matthew's English very much at first, so the word I used most on Friday was "Sorry?"

-I really felt like dying under the freaking windy rainy weather while Agassi's train was delayed for 30 minutes!

-I broke 4 or 5 PBs in the comp:)

-and I finally had an NR:D

-Seven Town's sponsorship was comprehensive

-Charlie ran the comp so smoothly that I never saw such an excellent and successful comp before

-Mark is cool

-CoolHong? PooHong? I was busying looking for Agassi's wallet at that time:(

-I didn't know my hair was so messy until I saw the Sky News and my Clock NR record?

-Rowin Winneavy 7.71

-Sean didn't drink at all?

-Everything here is cheaper than that in Dublin?!

-"He looks crestfallen"

-Some people went from one McD to another McD?

-I slept 16 hours after having only 10 hours' sleep in 4 days

-I didn't defeat Daniel:(

-Mark got Clock single NR!

-My Clock's second place was my first top-3 in comp ever

-I like Mikey boy's shaves!

-I really wanted to eat Chinese food:(

-Amos understood Mandarin but couldn't speak it

-Agassi and Amos can talk in Cantonese

-The only sentence that I made out in Agassi's telephone to someone was hundreds of "I love you"?!

-Blake broke numerous NRs for Ireland

-Thanks a lot for Connor's cooooooool present!:)

-Agassi said Breandan was his second lover lol?!

-If I don't go to sleep now, I'm gonna miss tomorrow's classes again for sure?!
 
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