U perm

[Lt-UnReaL]

How exactly do people do these without regripping:

(R U' R U) (R U) (R U') (R' U' R2)
(R2 U) (R U R' U') (R' U') (R' U R')

I have to regrip twice and can't do it as fast as I see a lot of people do it...

 

[gillesvdp]

I think everybody has to regrip...

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

Really? O_O I always see people on youtube vids do it like sub 1 sec non stop. :O

 

[Johannes91]

That doesn't mean they don't regrip. Why do you think it's a bad idea?

 

[Sturkman11]

Thats weird. I use those same U perm algs and I dont see myself "regripping". I get sub 2 (1.97) on U, and sub 3 (2.64) on U'. I think its not so much as regripping as it is fast movements. When you see vids of peeps doing it in sub 3 and below, they just have the alg in their subconciousness* so they dont really worry about regripping. Thats how I see it, hmmm, not really sure about anyone else. :>


* - I know its spelled wrong, just too lazy to go to google define.

 

[Johannes91]

I use those same U perm algs and I dont see myself "regripping".

How exactly do you do (R2 U) (R U R'), for example? I regrip between the two parts.

When you see vids of peeps doing it in sub 3 and below

There's a very big difference between sub-1 and sub-3.

 

[Sturkman11]

Good point out about sub 3 and sub1, there is a big overall difference for time. For (R2 U) (RUR'), I keep my left hand on the bottom left corner of the cube( hold the cube basically w/o touching the R and U face.) and after I turn R2 and U with my right hand, I would quickly bring it back down to the F face to do (RUR'). I dont see that as a regripping thing, I see regripping as like doing (FRUR'U'F'), in that case you actually have to take both hands off the cube and re-adjust them. I guess I see a regrip as like either a full cube rotation, or where you take both hands off. But I see where you come from. I guess it's like the old saying "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

 

[pjk]

Heck, there is a huge difference between 1.20 and sub-1. I can do the U Perms around 1.15 on a good day.

 

[tim]

Good point out about sub 3 and sub1, there is a big overall difference for time. For (R2 U) (RUR'), I keep my left hand on the bottom left corner of the cube( hold the cube basically w/o touching the R and U face.) and after I turn R2 and U with my right hand, I would quickly bring it back down to the F face to do (RUR'). I dont see that as a regripping thing, I see regripping as like doing (FRUR'U'F'), in that case you actually have to take both hands off the cube and re-adjust them. I guess I see a regrip as like either a full cube rotation, or where you take both hands off. But I see where you come from. I guess it's like the old saying "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

That's a regrip for sure. But you can execute FRUR'U'F' without a regrip .

 

[hdskull]

I see regripping as like doing (FRUR'U'F')

do it w/o regripping, haha F with index, then RUR'U' should be no problem and then F' with thumb

but i need help with U perms too, i think i do them too slow, i do A perms faster than U perms -__- which i think is kinda weird, haha

 

[Sturkman11]

HAHA!!!!!!!!!, No wonder I thought that (FRUU'R'F') is a regrip! When i do F', I take my left hand off the cube to rotate F' with my index finger. So i grabbed my cube and tried with my thumb, and what do you know, I didnt regrip. Thanks for the advice.!

 

[hait2]

speaking of re-grips, is there a way to execute the other edge orientation alg (FURU'R'F') without a regrip? the FUR part kills me =/ i've even gone as far as to replace the alg with L d RU'R'F', which is a bit faster for me, but still requires a tiny regrip with the left hand

 

[tim]

That's the way i execute it . (Still processing, should work soon)

/edit: works now

 

[pjk]

cin, I think you posted a vid of FRUR'U'F', not FURU'R'F'

 

[tim]

cin, I think you posted a vid of FRUR'U'F', not FURU'R'F'

damn, i hope it helps anyway

 

[Johannes91]

@hait2:
Try f R U R' U' f'. It's the same alg from another angle.

 

[Sturkman11]

That one I think works better. It seems smoother.

 

[hait2]

ah, wow thanks a lot johannes
can't believe i didn't think of that

 

[hdskull]

@hait2:
Try f R U R' U' f'. It's the same alg from another angle.

that's really great, that will help me also thanks!

... btw i thought this thread was about U perms, haha

 

[Sturkman11]

It was until we started talking about regrips.