The Speedsolving.com community trains 5 year old prodigy [emoji3]

[RennuR]

There was Dixon Fall and Dixon winter last year correct? I started cubing in June so haha. @GenTheThief

Also @wallstreet777 Ann Arbor is like amazing for cubing, I believe Michigan has about 7-8 competitions a year.

Also one more thing, because he is such a young cuber, I agree as well that he should continue with his beginners method, and then venture out from there, I may be biased but F2l or CFOP should probably be his next step.

 

[biscuit]

Doh! How could I forget abou Dixion and Michigan!

 

[GenTheSnail]

There was Dixon Fall and Dixon winter last year correct? I started cubing in June so haha.

I started cubing late June 2015. Dixon Winter 2016, in February, was my first competition. Dixon Fall 2016 was my fourth. I don't know about the Dixon comps that were in 2015.

I may be biased but F2l or CFOP should probably be his next step.

I respectfully disagree.
I think that the methods Roux and ZZ should be looked into, along with CFOP F2L.
I will never stop sharing this thread, as it has so much (generally) unbiased information on the main solving methods.
I think Jayden could benefit a lot from reading the thread, choosing a more advanced method, and practicing that method. If he does, he may want to get a smaller cube as others have noted. Especially if he chooses Roux, he might have trouble finger tricking the M-slice, as the method is heavily reliant on that move.

Doh! How could I forget abou Dixion and Michigan!

Dixon happens to be closest to Chicago too lol.

 

[wallstreet777]

I started cubing late June 2015. Dixon Winter 2016, in February, was my first competition. Dixon Fall 2016 was my fourth. I don't know about the Dixon comps that were in 2015.


I respectfully disagree.
I think that the methods Roux and ZZ should be looked into, along with CFOP F2L.
I will never stop sharing this thread, as it has so much (generally) unbiased information on the main solving methods.
I think Jayden could benefit a lot from reading the thread, choosing a more advanced method, and practicing that method. If he does, he may want to get a smaller cube as others have noted. Especially if he chooses Roux, he might have trouble finger tricking the M-slice, as the method is heavily reliant on that move.


Dixon happens to be closest to Chicago too lol.

Thanks for sharing. I will go over that thread and look into Roux. We will start working on different methods and see which he's most in to.


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[mark49152]

I think that the methods Roux and ZZ should be looked into, along with CFOP F2L. ... I think Jayden could benefit a lot from reading the thread, choosing a more advanced method, and practicing that method.

You just gave my my first LOL of the day, thanks .

If he's anything like typical 5 year olds, he's not going to study large alg sets or complicated techniques in order to knock a few seconds off his times. I agree with getting a smaller cube that's special to him and maybe more fun. Maybe try some other puzzles like pyraminx and skewb and see if he likes those. See where his interest lies, and feed it. If he enjoys puzzle solving he'll get faster naturally and it doesn't have to become hard work.

 

[RennuR]

I am not going to lie, I see many smaller kids LOVING pyraminx, I would definetly try to introduce him to a Pyraminx, and also one more thing @GenTheThief I didn't mean to sound biased in my post, and yes I do definetly think he should go and look into other methods, its just I am guessing the beginenrs method he is using most closely relates to CFOP I guess is what im saying. Also will I see you at Dixon Winter? That will be my first competition. (Wiscube was on a Cross Country meet day, and Dixon Fall fell on my homecoming day LOL)

 

[GenTheSnail]

You just gave my my first LOL of the day, thanks .

Your welcome.

If he's anything like typical 5 year olds, he's not going to study large alg sets or complicated techniques in order to knock a few seconds off his times.

I just wanted to expose him to other methods aside from CFOP. ZZ and Roux don't require large alg sets, and blockbuilding isn't that complicated a technique. I suppose EOLine could be considered complicated though.

See where his interest lies, and feed it. If he enjoys puzzle solving he'll get faster naturally and it doesn't have to become hard work.

I see how my post came across that way. Twas' untactful of me.

I am not going to lie, I see many smaller kids LOVING pyraminx, I would definetly try to introduce him to a Pyraminx

Oh, yeah! A lot of kids like the smaller events. He might be interested in Pyraminx, Skewb or 2x2. Those do seem to be the most popular, as mark said.

@GenTheThief I didn't mean to sound biased in my post, and yes I do definetly think he should go and look into other methods, its just I am guessing the beginenrs method he is using most closely relates to CFOP I guess is what im saying.

I wasn't attacking you or anything. Just saying that, yes the easiest progrresion is cfop, though it may not be the best.

Also will I see you at Dixon Winter? That will be my first competition. (Wiscube was on a Cross Country meet day, and Dixon Fall fell on my homecoming day LOL)

You probably will see me there; Dixon comps are the easiest for me to get to.
Wisconsin comps are close too, but I think my parents were busy on Wiscube so I couldn't go.
John said the next Dixon would be in the spring.

 

[mark49152]

I just wanted to expose him to other methods aside from CFOP. ZZ and Roux don't require large alg sets, and blockbuilding isn't that complicated a technique. I suppose EOLine could be considered complicated though.

Oh - I thought that was a joke! He's a 5 year old kid. He's unlikely to go read the methods thread and evaluate whether he prefers Roux, ZZ or CFOP.

What were you reading when you were 5?

 

[h2f]

I just wanted to expose him to other methods aside from CFOP. ZZ and Roux don't require large alg sets, and blockbuilding isn't that complicated a technique. I suppose EOLine could be considered complicated though.

Oh man. He's just a kid. Dont ruin his childhood.

 

[DGCubes]

Oh man. He's just a kid. Dont ruin his childhood.

What do you mean, full ZBLL's not THAT bad.

But yeah, I think he should only read through that method choosing thread if he finds it interesting and fun for him. If it's too intimidating, he can always try to get faster with the method he's currently using for a while. It's very possible to be decently sub-1 minute with the beginners' method; 40 seconds isn't much of a stretch.

 

[Rcuber123]

U should see Hong like chan he went to his first official comp when he was 4 years old and now has an 8.72 official single and 9.80 official average (he is 7 now)

 

[RennuR]

I feel like were all trying to plan out this kids cubing career as if he is going to be a prodigy, like hes speedsolving.com's kid.

I mean, it is pretty cool hes this interested as a 5 year old, but honestly when I meant next step I meant in a while.

 

[wallstreet777]

I feel like were all trying to plan out this kids cubing career as if he is going to be a prodigy, like hes speedsolving.com's kid.

I mean, it is pretty cool hes this interested as a 5 year old, but honestly when I meant next step I meant in a while.

He definitely seems to pick things up quicker than I do. Now he's working on cfop (I think that's what it's called - 2 rows at one)? while waiting for mom at grocery store.

He's starting to understand the importance of doing 2 rows at once.

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[sqAree]

So maybe he IS indeed a prodigy.

 

[obelisk477]

He definitely seems to pick things up quicker than I do. Now he's working on cfop (I think that's what it's called - 2 rows at one)? while waiting for mom at grocery store.

He's starting to understand the importance of doing 2 rows at once.

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2 *layers* at once if you want to get the terminology correct, but yes, that's the first part of CFOP. It's called F2L (first two layers). The last steps are OLL (orient last layer), and then PLL (permute last layer).

 

[Loiloiloi]

2 *layers* at once if you want to get the terminology correct, but yes, that's the first part of CFOP. It's called F2L (first two layers). The last steps are OLL (orient last layer), and then PLL (permute last layer).

2nd Part*

Don't forget cross

 

[GenTheSnail]

That's why CFOP is called CFOP. It stands for: Cross - F2L - OLL - PLL.
Solving the first two layers at once isn't full CFOP, but it is the step that makes it distinct from other methods.
I still suggest checking out the Roux method. If he doesn't like it, it's totally fine.
Does he time his solves? How fast does he usually solve?

 

[DGCubes]

That's why CFOP is called CFOP. It stands for: Cross - F2L - OLL - PLL.
Solving the first two layers at once isn't full CFOP, but it is the step that makes it distinct from other methods.
I still suggest checking out the Roux method. If he doesn't like it, it's totally fine.
Does he time his solves? How fast does he usually solve?

Yesterday, wallstreet777 posted that he averaged just over a minute.

By the way, @wallstreet777, I'd love to see another video of one of his solves now.

 

[RennuR]

Watch out Feliks Zemdegs, Speedsolving.com's 5 year old prodigy is coming for ya.

@wallstreet777 I cant wait to see this kids potential. CFOP at age 5, can he even say the word Fridrich? (Im just joking)

 

[wallstreet777]

That's why CFOP is called CFOP. It stands for: Cross - F2L - OLL - PLL.
Solving the first two layers at once isn't full CFOP, but it is the step that makes it distinct from other methods.
I still suggest checking out the Roux method. If he doesn't like it, it's totally fine.
Does he time his solves? How fast does he usually solve?

He has started to time his solves on his iPad. He averages a little over a minute using the beginners method.

I will look further into Roux. Any reason why you prefer that method?


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