The Roux "Example Solve" Game!

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R F L2 B2 D L2 F2 D2 F2 R2 F2 D' R2 D' L D2 B U L' D2 F2

I'll hide the solve

Spoiler: If you're CN you need to try this scram

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 Setup 

R F L2 B2 D L2 F2 D2 F2 R2 F2 D' R2 D' L D2 B U L' D2 F2

 Moves 

F2 r' (E y) //Cross
L U' L2' U L //P1
R U' R' y R U R' //P2
U' L' U' (M' x') //P3
U2 R U' f R //P4
S' R U R' U' F' //LL cancel

No Roux so no next

 

[tsmosher]

NEXT: R F L2 B2 D L2 F2 D2 F2 R2 F2 D' R2 D' L D2 B U L' D2 F2

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 Setup 

R F L2 B2 D L2 F2 D2 F2 R2 F2 D' R2 D' L D2 B U L' D2 F2

 Moves 

x2 y'
U' S' u r' u S2 u // FB (7)
U' R U2' M2' U' r' U2 R2 U' r' // SB (10/17)
U2' R U' r' F R' F' r // CLL (8/25)
U M2' U M U' M U' M' U2' M U2' M2' U' // LSE (13/38)

NEXT: L2 B2 D B2 U' L2 U' F2 U2 R2 D F D L F' R' B' L2 F2 R

 

[Jupilogy]

@tsmosher I am curious about why you decided to do the U at the beginning of LSE. I see that it gives a better solution regarding LR pieces being easier to insert into the LR slots, but I wouldn't have thought of that myself. Overall very nice solve. Loved the second block especially.

NEXT: L2 B2 D B2 U' L2 U' F2 U2 R2 D F D L F' R' B' L2 F2 R

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 Setup 

L2 B2 D B2 U' L2 U' F2 U2 R2 D F D L F' R' B' L2 F2 R

 Moves 

y
U' B2 F2 x R U' R U' B // FB, 8
R U' M' U r' R' U2 r U r' // SB, 18
R U' L' U R' U' L // CMLL, 25
M2 U M U M U' M2 U' F2 M2 F2 M2 // LSE, 37

Next: R2 F2 L R2 B2 R' D2 U2 R D2 R' F L2 U2 L2 B' L' U L2

 

[tsmosher]

@tsmosher I am curious about why you decided to do the U at the beginning of LSE.

I am completely color-neutral.

I typically look for a situation where DL is solved or very close to solved. In the orientation I solved it in, DBL and DFL are already solved.

Oftentimes in these types of situations, U* S* (or something similar) solves the DLS edge in between the 2 corners.

It's been over a month since I did this solve, but I imagine my thought process went something like...

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 Setup 

R F L2 B2 D L2 F2 D2 F2 R2 F2 D' R2 D' L D2 B U L' D2 F2

 Moves 

x2 y'

U' // align red/blue edge with red center (moving red/blue edge off the S slice as well)
S' // move red/green edge out of its horrible location in the scramble
u // create a red edge line
r' // align the red edge line so that it's ready to be inserted into FB with u2'

// the only problem here is that-- if I insert the red edge line-- DLS won't be solved. so...
u // move the red edge line off the S slice and out of the way
S2 // solve red/white edge
u // what a mess lol

I see that it gives a better solution regarding LR pieces being easier to insert into the LR slots, but I wouldn't have thought of that myself.

lol. If it made my solution more efficient in any way, that was dumb luck.

Overall very nice solve. Loved the second block especially.

Thanks.

Next: R2 F2 L R2 B2 R' D2 U2 R D2 R' F L2 U2 L2 B' L' U L2

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 Setup 

R2 F2 L R2 B2 R' D2 U2 R D2 R' F L2 U2 L2 B' L' U L2

 Moves 

b2' R' S2 // FB (3)
r U' r2' U2' R' U R U' R U2' R' U' R // SB (13/16)
U' R' U' R U' R' // (cancelled into) CLL (6/22)
// help, Pyjam! I am about to butcher LSE.
U' M U M' U M' U' M // EOLR (8/30)
U' M2' U M' U2' M' U2' M r' // M2 + 4c & untransform (9/39)

NEXT: L' B U2 R B2 R' D2 L2 R F2 U2 L2 F2 R' B L F D R2 B F'

 

[Jupilogy]

Thanks, I do sometimes do that kind of block but don't like doing S moves personally. Normally I consider it when I see DFL and DBL are solved relatively to each other, and then I actually go for the solution if I see it's not a massive pain which it sometimes is. Like, when you have to move the corners out the way to put the edges in, I normally skip it.

Uh, but aside from that I was asking about LSE ^_^' because I would have gone straight for the M2.

Spoiler: I'm not pyjam but I can help with LSE maybe

Here's a shorter EOLR solution which is the only one I know for this case.

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U' M' U2 M U M // shorter EOLR
U' M2 U' M' U2 M' U2 r' // shorter rest as well (36)
x'

And, here's a solution without fancy EOLR which is probably what I'd normally do because I'm a basic b*****. Which in this case turns out to be just as few moves :3 It may be more moves depending on the way you do EO. I got lucky with l4e.

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U2 M' U' M' U' M' U2 M // EO then LR (no fancy EOLR) same num of moves
U' M2 U M U2 r' // yah (36)
x'

NEXT: L' B U2 R B2 R' D2 L2 R F2 U2 L2 F2 R' B L F D R2 B F'

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 Setup 

L' B U2 R B2 R' D2 L2 R F2 U2 L2 F2 R' B L F D R2 B F'

 Moves 

y' x U' M2 D R U' x // fb, 5
U2 r' U r U2 r' U' r' U M' U' r2 // sb, 17
R U R' U R U' R' U R U2 R' // CMLL, 28
U2 M U M U2 M' U2 M' U M U2 M' U2 // lse, 41

Next: U2 R2 D2 R2 B' R2 B' D2 U2 B' F' R B D' L2 B L' U B2 R2 B

 

[tsmosher]

Spoiler: I'm not pyjam but I can help with LSE maybe

Here's a shorter EOLR solution which is the only one I know for this case.

And, here's a solution without fancy EOLR which is probably what I'd normally do because I'm a basic b*****. Which in this case turns out to be just as few moves :3 It may be more moves depending on the way you do EO. I got lucky with l4e.

Thanks!

No preference on who helps me with LSE... Just that Pyjam always seems to have an LSE Improvement for me.

Uh, but aside from that I was asking about LSE ^_^' because I would have gone straight for the M2.

Oh! My bad.

That's easy.

If I do M2' right away, the orange/yellow edge is in DFM; the corresponding red/yellow edge is at the tip of the arrow so I can't influence it to DBM to complete 4b (EOLR). At least not in any efficient way that I can see.
By doing U then M2', the green/yellow edge is in DFM; the corresponding blue/yellow edge is on the "left" side of the arrow and can be easily influenced into DBM to complete 4b (EOLR) while I complete 4a (solve EO via M* U* M*).

My EOLR solutions are pretty rudimentary and stupidly intuitive. (By no means optimal.)
Judging by your solutions above, you are leaps and bounds ahead of me as far as LSE goes.
So, I wouldn't put too much stock in my LSE solutions if I were you. lol.

Next: U2 R2 D2 R2 B' R2 B' D2 U2 B' F' R B D' L2 B L' U B2 R2 B

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 Setup 

U2 R2 D2 R2 B' R2 B' D2 U2 B' F' R B D' L2 B L' U B2 R2 B

 Moves 

y2 x
U B2 D2 B U' R' F // FB (7)
U' R' U' r' U' R // SS (6/13)
U R U R' U2' R U R' // SBLS (8/21)
R' U' R U' F U' R' U' R U F' // CLL (11/32)
M2' U' M' U' M U M2' U M U2' M' U2' // LSE (12/44)

NEXT: F' D' U2 F2 L B2 R F2 R' U2 L2 F2 L F2 U L' B2 R F D2 F

 

[Jupilogy]

No worries :3 I only really know some easy arrow cases, and the solutions with M2 or U2 are easier for me to understand what's going on than when changing the oriented pieces as well as moving stuff around. Have you seen the EOLR docs/cases from Kian? It's on there, and might be good to study if you're trying to get good at EOLR.

NEXT: F' D' U2 F2 L B2 R F2 R' U2 L2 F2 L F2 U L' B2 R F D2 F

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 Setup 

F' D' U2 F2 L B2 R F2 R' U2 L2 F2 L F2 U L' B2 R F D2 F

 Moves 

z2 y'
R' F' u2 R U' F2 // fb, 6
U' r2 U2 r' U' R r U2 R' U r // sb, 11/17

//first try, got dots :(
// U2 R U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' R U' r' // world's longest CMLL, 16/33
// U2 M' U2 M' U M' U' M2 U' E2 M E2 M' // lse, 13/46

//let's see what happen if we start with r instead of R
U2 r U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' R U' R' // world's longest CMLL, 16/33
U2 M' U2 M U' M U' M2 U // lse, no dots! 9/42

Spoiler: Old scrambles from thread

Frustratingly couldn't get below like 40 moves. Then managed to cancel some stuff and ended up with 31 on this scramble (from page 3)

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 Setup 

D2 B2 U' F2 R2 U F2 R2 U2 B2 F2 R' U F' R F' L B L D' R'

 Moves 

y x2
R2 F R D' M D' // fb, 6
U r' U r U R U2 r U M U2 M' //U' R //sb cancel into CMLL, 12/18
//R' U  // cancelled part of CMLL
r U2 R2 F R F' R // cmll, 7/25
M U M2 U2 M U2 // lse, 6/31

//y x2
//R2 F R D' M D' // fb, 6
//U r' U r U R U2 r U M U2 M' U' R //sb, 14/20
//R' U r U2 R2 F R F' R // cmll, 9/29
//M U M2 U2 M U2 // lse, 6/35

//r2 U r' U' M' U' r2 U M U2 M2 U r' // sb, 13/19
//U2 R U' L' U R' U' L // cmll, 8/27
//M2 U M' U' M' U M' U2 M U' M2 U2 M' U2 M // lse, 15/42

//y
//R' U2 F r U' x U' M2 F' // fb, 8
//U2 r2 U' r U R' U R' U' r U r' // sb, 12/20
//U L' U' L U L F' L' F // cmll, 9/29
//M2 U M U M' U' M' U2 M U M2 U M2 U2 M2 // lse, 15/44

//U2 R2 U' r U R' U R' U' r U r' // sb, 12/20
//U L' U' L U L F' L' F // cmll, 9/29
//M2 U M U M' U M' U2 M U' M2 U' M' U2 M' U2 // lse, 16/45

//z x2
//R U F' u F r' R' F // fb, 8
//r' U' r2 U' r' U r U' M2 U2 r U r' // sb, 13/21
//U' R' U' R U' R' U F' U F R // cmll, 11/32
//M U' M U2 M' U M' U M' U2 M U' M2 U F2 M2 F2 // lse, 17/49

next: D2 L2 D' U2 R2 F2 L2 B2 U2 L2 D' F' L U2 F D B2 L2 F' R' B'