The Gan Debate Thread

[Cody_Caston]

But at the same time YJ is pumping out a magnetic cube for 8 dollars, at the same time qiyi is making a magnetic cube for 10 dollars, and moyu is making a magnetic cube for 15.

But remember the x, it came with over 100 magnets.

 

[Sub1Hour]

Not really in aus

we are talking USD here.

 

[BenChristman1]

But remember the x, it came with over 100 magnets.

I just noticed, you used my template for your PB sheet.

 

[Sub1Hour]

But remember the x, it came with over 100 magnets.

https://www.ebay.com/p/628976484?ii...w4871BRAjEiwAbxXi205yAmn5g-GeL5ttNk6tAFhNeYep these magnets cost 3 dollars

 

[Hazel]

I'd argue the honeycomb pattern is pretty symbolic of this, as it's actual practicality is questionable, but it looks beautiful on their site

The honeycomb pattern is good for keeping lube in the cube, and I think it works. But it's also good at trapping grime. When I used the 354 or the X, I had to clean them out constantly.

 

[Cody_Caston]

I just noticed, you used my template for your PB sheet.

Oh yeah thanks, but of topic

https://www.ebay.com/p/628976484?ii...w4871BRAjEiwAbxXi205yAmn5g-GeL5ttNk6tAFhNeYep these magnets cost 3 dollars

You know what, gan is stupid, their getting the expensive magnets, why don’t they just get the cheap ones (yes i know, the x had different strength magnets)sorry for double post

 

[brododragon]

Not really in aus

30-45 AUD.

https://www.ebay.com/p/628976484?ii...w4871BRAjEiwAbxXi205yAmn5g-GeL5ttNk6tAFhNeYep these magnets cost 3 dollars

You can get them for less if you really look.
EDIT: Way less a piece:

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[BenChristman1]

Oh yeah thanks, but of topic

Well, we'd better get back on-topic then. I personally think that Gan has come up with some really cool ideas, but they have just been recreating old cubes. I really like the customization of the X, but I am hoping to get the Tengyun v2, because I think that that is better.

 

[ProStar]

I agree with that, especially when they are charging upwards of 50 dollars for a cube where the only difference from the last version is a slight tweak to customization and an older core that they have already used.

Sounds like TNLCubings Moyu skit

 

[Sub1Hour]

You know what, gan is stupid, their getting the expensive magnets, why don’t they just get the cheap ones (yes i know, the x had different strength magnets)sorry for double post

Don't quote me in this but I think that gan did get the cheap ones or at least ones that are cheap in bulk. Since they are based in China I'm guessing that they have easy access to bulk goods like plastic and magnets that are produced for a cheap price in China.

 

[Cody_Caston]

I wonder how much. A skewb made by gan would cost

 

[Sub1Hour]

Sounds like TNLCubings Moyu skit

I will admit that the wrm is my main, maybe a little bit hypocritical but at least they had a high demand from the community to get rid of the ridges, and then they did.

 

[Pyr]

The honeycomb pattern is good for keeping lube in the cube, and I think it works. But it's also good at trapping grime. When I used the 354 or the X, I had to clean them cube constantly.

This probably wasn't the best example of what I mean in hindsight, sometimes more like their focus on marketing their cubes and how they release products would have been better to reference

That being said though, our X goes through lube like it's nothing. Rather than the lube rubbing over the pieces normally, it seems to just get caught in the honeycomb pattern, requiring a lot more than most cubes. I can't say we've ever had this issue in any other cube to this extent

I will admit that the wrm is my main, maybe a little bit hypocritical but at least they had a high demand from the community to get rid of the ridges, and then they did.

It was a silly change, but yea, it made more sense because of the outcry for a version without ridges. We still use our GTS3LM though

Releasing a variant because there was a huge controversy over a design choice is different than releasing the same design over and over again for years. The GTS line has more differences between one cube and the next than a lot of GAN puzzles have between each other. The WRM is an exception, not the norm

 

[ProStar]

I will admit that the wrm is my main, maybe a little bit hypocritical but at least they had a high demand from the community to get rid of the ridges, and then they did.

I'll refer to a post I made on the subject of GTS3M/WRM/GTS3LM:

There's completely no difference [with ridges] imo. I've tried the WRM, and they don't really change anything when it comes to slices(although that kinda makes sense cause they're on the outside anyway). And as far as preventing slipping your hands off the cube, it's really rare anyway so the ridges again don't really change anything. Basically this is the story of ridges:

Moyu: "Let's put ridges!"
Cubers before trying: "WTH ARE U CRAZY THIS CUBE SUX"
Cubers after trying: "Oh. This is basically the same as a normal cube. Whatever I guess"
Moyu: "OK FINE WELL REMOVE RIDGES"
Cubers before trying: "Um, we didn't really have an opinion on the ridges anyway, so whatever I guess"
Cubers after trying: "Yeah this is literally the same cube except the LM version with slightly different ascetics"
Moyu: "OK FINE WELL JUST MAKE A WRM WITH RIDGES"
Cubers: "Holy crap we don't even want these just make a GTS4 already"

 

[Cody_Caston]

tbh, i dont even think cubes should be that expensive because at the end of the day, it’s just a puzzle that we’re all addicted too

 

[Sub1Hour]

I'll refer to a post I made on the subject of GTS3M/WRM/GTS3LM:

I'm still waiting for my WRWRWRWRm (Which is in fact a ridged GTS3 with a whole 12 duel adjustment spring tensions)

 

[ProStar]

tbh, i dont even think cubes should be that expensive because at the end of the day, it’s just a puzzle that we’re all addicted too

To be fair, $60 is cheap for the top of the line(supposedly) cube compared to most hobbies. My Brother plays Guitar, and a new one will cost upwards of 1k easily

 

[Cody_Caston]

To be fair, $60 is cheap for the top of the line(supposedly) cube compared to most hobbies. My Brother plays Guitar, and a new one will cost upwards of 1k easily

Well yeah true, my dream pc would cost about $8000 aud
Edit No my parents would never pay for that

 

[Sub1Hour]

To be fair, $60 is cheap for the top of the line(supposedly) cube compared to most hobbies. My Brother plays Guitar, and a new one will cost upwards of 1k easily

The cubing perspective is quite different when it comes to hardware from other hobbies. Cubing hardware seems to advance much, much faster than in most other hobbies. I know a lot of hobbies where it's very common to use something that came out in 2008 but you don't see cubers using alpha 5s anymore

 

[ProStar]

The cubing perspective is quite different when it comes to hardware from other hobbies. Cubing hardware seems to advance much, much faster than in most other hobbies. I know a lot of hobbies where it's very common to use something that came out in 2008 but you don't see cubers using alpha 5s anymore

But most things have been around much longer than cubing has(not counting the no hardware updates in 1980s-2000)