The Fastest-To-Learn Method

[McWizzle94]

VH, because it's actually less algs than Fridrich in total.
42 COLLs, 3 PLLs, a few VHF2Ls that are quite intuitive anyway.

I have no respect for someone called "Badgersex".

That name is quite disturbing.

Well VH isn't exactly less algs depending on how you think about it. If you get an OLL skip, you get get any of 21 PLLs. Therefore, you would have to memorize several extra algs. Alternatively, you could just learn 3 corner permutations and then do a edge cycle alg.

Yea but still, most people whom learn VH know all PLLs.
COLL is a great method IMO.

It is thats why I'm learning it

This is the site to learn it from than
Best algs IMO.
http://jmbaum.110mb.com/

I like these algs:

http://www.stanford.edu/~leyanlo/coll.htm

 

[BadgerSex]

Not years, just months in most cases. And you have to give all the algorithms a try. Not all at once of course. If you can distinguish among the 7 cross OLL's, then you can tell them all apart.

Yeah, I can tell them all apart but... So can everyone else I'm competing with

 

[Rabid]

I have no respect for someone called "Badgersex".

That name is quite disturbing.

I’m not offended because I put the space in an inoffensive place.
BadgerS ex.
He was once married to a badger.

I’ll vote Petrus because it’s all I know. From my limited scope it’s the only pure system, meaning it doesn’t really require algorithms (at least for F2L). I think the initial intuitive grasp is underestimated. Petrus might not have the fastest possible learning curve, but I think its holistic approach encourages long term dedication. Fridrich is a recipe for burnout.

 

[nitrocan]

well it cant be Badgers Ex, the capital letters pretty much tell it

 

[BadgerSex]

well it cant be Badgers Ex, the capital letters pretty much tell it

well marriage usually involves sex anyway...

but it doesn't refer to bestiality - more like, "the mating habits of the species badgerus badgerii".

 

[Lofty]

Well than BadgerSex it sounds like you should use Roux. In the long run more algs isnt really that bad, it may look daunting initially but once you get done with it its really not that hard.
And for VH you really should learn the 21 PLL's in case of a OLL skip.

 

[shelley]

As I understand it VH and ZB are only methods for specific parts of a solve, right? If you're using VH or ZB, you've most likely learned Fridrich or Petrus first.

I would say Fridrich is the easiest to learn, not because the method itself is necessarily better, but because 90% of speedcubers use it, so it's much easier to find help from other cubers and resources are more readily available. However, I voted "I like pancakes" because a poll that includes a silly answer choice like that deserves a silly response.

 

[ooveehoo]

Fridrich is probably easiest to start with initially (watch a 9 minute video and most people can understand F2L, rest is memorization that anyone can do)

Blockbuilding requires a lot more thinking and intuition so it would take longer to 'learn'.

Well, since most competitors already use fridrich, they are years ahead of me in that method. So the only hope of getting better than the fridrich-users is to find a different method. Besides, I could never memorize and recognize that many similar cases that fast. And if somebody learns full ZB then we're toast.

Either way... Fridrich is boring...

I agree, even though I use fridrich, IMO it in fact is boring. I use petrus for feetsolving(I don't do that much) and sometimes for OH, as I'm currently learning it better (I learned the principals pefore fridrich, but I was fooled to learn fridrich), and I averga sub-30 with it (around 20-23 using fridrich).

But I still voted for I like pancakes, because I like them and it's closest to Roux. Learn Roux - less algs (27 max? excl. orientation for last edges which is for me intuitional), easy to learn - fun - less moves - teaches principals - faaast.
I know the basic roux and average 50-60 seconds/moves.

 

[BadgerSex]

Fridrich is probably easiest to start with initially (watch a 9 minute video and most people can understand F2L, rest is memorization that anyone can do)

Blockbuilding requires a lot more thinking and intuition so it would take longer to 'learn'.

Well, since most competitors already use fridrich, they are years ahead of me in that method. So the only hope of getting better than the fridrich-users is to find a different method. Besides, I could never memorize and recognize that many similar cases that fast. And if somebody learns full ZB then we're toast.

Either way... Fridrich is boring...

I agree, even though I use fridrich, IMO it in fact is boring. I use petrus for feetsolving(I don't do that much) and sometimes for OH, as I'm currently learning it better (I learned the principals pefore fridrich, but I was fooled to learn fridrich), and I averga sub-30 with it (around 20-23 using fridrich).

But I still voted for I like pancakes, because I like them and it's closest to Roux. Learn Roux - less algs (27 max? excl. orientation for last edges which is for me intuitional), easy to learn - fun - less moves - teaches principals - faaast.
I know the basic roux and average 50-60 seconds/moves.

I discovered that if i use a combination of ortega and roux, i don't need as many algs. I just do corners placement first, build blocks, then solve mostly intuitively along the roux guidelines. So far, I'm still really slow (my lbl is just under 60 seconds, but my ortega/roux is more like 2-3 mins)... but i noticed i definitely use fewer moves with the ortega/roux (some solves are sub-50 moves without really trying, the max is just over 60)

 

[fanwuq]

This is my beginner method, only 2 7move algs needed:

solve first layer corners. Solve LL corners using Sune and Niklas.

Solve Edges FU, BU, BD intuitively.

finish with M2.

I think that's probably about the same number of moves as the traditional LBL. It gets you ahead in BLD and it's so much easier to learn.

With Rowe Hessler like crazy execution, I bet this method can sub-20 too.

 

[Malachai]

I like pancakes.

No, really.

That's your fastest method to learning to solve sub-20. Not that I'd know, I'm not there yet.

 

[brunson]

Intuitive. You already know it.

 

[hagendaasmaser]

fridrich/i like pancakes...i use fridrich and others don't....many others are better than me and use other methods...depends on how hard u work on each method.

 

[A_Qber]

I LIKE PANCAKES!!!
(waffles are better!)

 

[waffle=ijm]

I LIKE PANCAKES!!!
(waffles are better!)

I agree waffles are so much better. No offense to pancake people

 

[MistArts]

I like pancakes. BECAUSE THERE IS NO "OTHER" OPTION!!!

anyway, God's Algorithm.

Because even when you learn one case, you can get extremely lucky and get the exact cube the first time you solve a cube and there's your sub-20...

 

[BadgerSex]

I like pancakes. BECAUSE THERE IS NO "OTHER" OPTION!!!

anyway, God's Algorithm.

Because even when you learn one case, you can get extremely lucky and get the exact cube the first time you solve a cube and there's your sub-20...

Well, I like pancakes is the other option. And God's Algorithm is kind of... impractical...

I'm surprised that so many people recommend Roux, yet I can only find one page on it. Are there seriously no more pages about Roux?

And does anybody use multislotting? It seems like a really awesome method, but I can't find any good human-understandable pages on it. Are there any good pages on it? Preferably, without java applets (I hate those things...plus, they don't print)

 

[Tim_Likes_Cubing]

I'm going with Fridrich. I really don't like the look of all that OLL stuff, so I cheat and use a mix of the LBL LL cross and the OLL algs ith a cross.

 

[PCwizCube]

I'm going with Fridrich. I really don't like the look of all that OLL stuff, so I cheat and use a mix of the LBL LL cross and the OLL algs ith a cross.

That's called 2 Look OLL. It requires 9 or 10 algorithms. I wouldn't call it cheating, many Fridrich users who don't know full OLL use that (Including me).

 

[penguin12321]

i actually don't like pancakes but i didn't know which method to say...