The cubing argument thread

[MJS Cubing]

MSCube has a HUGE chance in the market because of their marketing and (what seems to be) detailed plans.

And the fact that they essentially make gan cubes but cheaper.

 

[rubik2005]

Hmmm. Maybe, don't know much about the series... But I got an argument worth saying (not for people to disagree or eye-roll to though).

MSCube has a HUGE chance in the market because of their marketing and (what seems to be) detailed plans.

I mean I don't see a lot of people hating on the brand, so not sure how much arguing will take place. I see potential in them, and definitely look forward to their future releases.

 

[Mo_A2244]

And the fact that they essentially make gan cubes but cheaper.

Hmm. I would actually say that they may go into the "OnePlus Effect" in which they start cheap, and then they begin to increase price based on popularity. Hopefully that wont happen, currently waiting on an MS3-V1 Standard and Enhanced from MSCube themselves (but it's got delayed grr).

But at the same time they are doing well.

I mean I don't see a lot of people hating on the brand, so not sure how much arguing will take place. I see potential in them, and definitely look forward to their future releases.

Wasn't going for an argument, more of a discussion that could turn into an argument.

EDIT: Just realised my font size changed halfway haha

 

[MuaazCubes]

New argument: WandaVision is the worst anything ever produced by marvel.

WandaVision is actually better than some of the other series Marvels made, besides, they've only released 3 episodes so far so we barely know the story. (I'm sorta a marvel fanboy)

 

[DNF_Cuber]

WandaVision is actually better than some of the other series Marvels made, besides, they've only released 3 episodes so far so we barely know the story. (I'm sorta a marvel fanboy)

The mystery part is ok, but there is not enough, and all the comedy is extreme cringe.

 

[MuaazCubes]

The mystery part is ok, but there is not enough, and all the comedy is extreme cringe.

Well it is supposed to be a 20th-century sitcom, so that's literally the whole point.

 

[MJS Cubing]

WandaVision is actually better than some of the other series Marvels made, besides, they've only released 3 episodes so far so we barely know the story. (I'm sorta a marvel fanboy)

The mystery part is ok, but there is not enough, and all the comedy is extreme cringe.

New argument: This is a cubing argument thread. The Yusu v2 M is the Best 4x4

 

[DNF_Cuber]

The Yusu v2 M is the Best 4x4

nope get a WRM or MGC

 

[MJS Cubing]

nope get a WRM or MGC

I think the only reason i like the YLM is it’s size, especially having small hands. Those are actually the only 4x4s I haven’t tried lol. I have the gts2m, so that’s mainly what I compare to, because it’s a nice 4x4.

 

[MuaazCubes]

I don't have a 4x4 anymore, but I had the weird qiyi non-magnetic budget cubes with this light blue color

 

[Scollier]

I think the only reason i like the YLM is it’s size, especially having small hands. Those are actually the only 4x4s I haven’t tried lol. I have the gts2m, so that’s mainly what I compare to, because it’s a nice 4x4.

If you like small 4x4s the YJ mini 4x4 is great (I have it) and it only costs about $11.

 

[MJS Cubing]

I don't have a 4x4 anymore, but I had the weird qiyi non-magnetic budget cubes with this light blue color

Probably the qiyan s. I would recommend getting the YuSu v2 M, or the YLM (my personal favorite)

 

[DNF_Cuber]

Probably the qiyan s. I would recommend getting the YuSu v2 M, or the YLM (my personal favorite)

meilong M is way better

 

[MJS Cubing]

meilong M is way better

*pukes in corner*
YLM is superior, at least mine is.

 

[MuaazCubes]

meilong M is way better

I've heard that its good, might get ylm or meilong,

 

[Milominx]

I've heard that its good, might get ylm or meilong,

get meilong ylm sucks so much

 

[MJS Cubing]

Haha. Was going to say "I'll take it to the Cubing Argument Thread" but that place is already messed up.
I personally only see the Valk Elite as "innovative" from the whole Valk line. The rest of the cubes are very good but not exactly "innovative".
With GAN, their flagships have always brought in something innovative since I've been cubing at least (I think there's plenty of examples so I won't go into that).

A lot of us hope for companies/sub-brands like Valk and Guoguan to name a couple to be way more productive than they are just so we can get some more fresh perspective on cubing hardware, but I guess it is what it is.

Hasn't Mats Valk quit cubing? That's what I've heard. If it is only referring to "Competitive Cubing" we probably will see more Valk cubes in future but if it is complete cubing then we might not see another Valk cube, just as the Hays line that was supposed to kick off a couple of years ago.

In their flagships. They have released countless puzzles that are essentially the same thing with different price points. There was also a major gap in performance from the Valk to Valk power. The mechanism (at least in the edges) changed drastically. They also switched to primary internals, although it is arguable weather or not that is innovation. It was also the first 3x3 from Qiyi that was magnetic. I would consider these all innovation, and then of course from the valk power To the elite there is a lot, such as center edge magnets, adjustable magnets, and spring swapping.

 

[SlowCubez]

Arguments?

Looking at something like the olympic fastest freestyle swimmer. Water is water and the distance is the same for every competitor in every competition so if a record is broken then, no matter where or when, there's no doubt about who was the fastest/best.

But cube solving competitions don't work like that (or do they) I mean each competition is a different solve that may be easier or more difficult, more or less moves to scramble.

Apparently the number of moves to scramble the cube for competition can be quite low - I mean even I, the slowest cuber ever known, could break 3 seconds if the cube only need 3 moves to solve.

How do you guys compare one competition's winner to another.

Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half-hour.

 

[ProStar]

New argument: WandaVision is the worst anything ever produced by marvel.

Haven't watched it yet, looked kinda dumb. I'll probably check it out at like 2AM one day when I'm bored and can't sleep. Will report back later.

 

[MJS Cubing]

Arguments?

Looking at something like the olympic fastest freestyle swimmer. Water is water and the distance is the same for every competitor in every competition so if a record is broken then, no matter where or when, there's no doubt about who was the fastest/best.

But cube solving competitions don't work like that (or do they) I mean each competition is a different solve that may be easier or more difficult, more or less moves to scramble.

Apparently the number of moves to scramble the cube for competition can be quite low - I mean even I, the slowest cuber ever known, could break 3 seconds if the cube only need 3 moves to solve.

How do you guys compare one competition's winner to another.

Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half-hour.

The full half hour, and we compare averages to compare, not singles. The wr Single is fast, but anyone fast (Feliks, Max, Tymon, Leo, etc.) could get a wr with a good scramble.