The cubing argument thread

[Nmile7300]

How long did it take you to find all those posts to quote
Yh i guess it is, but @DNF_Cuber was completely dissing it, when it is not a bad option

Umm you kind of missed the point......

 

[DNF_Cuber]

Umm you kind of missed the point......

Me sitting here quietly not being immature(Momentarily)

 

[FishyIshy]

what is the best solver that uses it?

*Who lol

 

[BenChristman1]

But Dana, Leo, and Max are sponsored by Gan already, so they are

They can't be sponsored by both. Once again, rival companies. "Hey, I'm sponsored by both Apple and Samsung, this is such a good idea!" No. Just no. That's not how it works.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

They can't be sponsored by both. Once again, rival companies. "Hey, I'm sponsored by both Apple and Samsung, this is such a good idea!" No. Just no. That's not how it works.

eh. It's more like they are sponsored by toyota and apple, the companies have such different agendas.

 

[Jam88]

They can't be sponsored by both. Once again, rival companies. "Hey, I'm sponsored by both Apple and Samsung, this is such a good idea!" No. Just no. That's not how it works.

BUT THEY ARE
they are sponsored by gan and are rubiks ambassadors

 

[MJS Cubing]

BUT THEY ARE
they are sponsored by gan and are rubiks ambassadors

That doesn't technically mean they are sponsored. That means they were paid to advertise, and get Rubik's some publicity. People are more likely to buy stuff that world class cubers advertise, *Cough Cough* Gan

 

[Sub1Hour]

It's bigger than a standard 3x3. In my book, anything bigger than a 3x3 should be a big cube. Now, change my mind. Also the YLM is the best 4x4

Well a 3x3 is bigger than a standard 2x2. In my book, anything bigger than a 2x2 should be a big cube.

Doesn't that make sense?

 

[Silky]

Well a 3x3 is bigger than a standard 2x2. In my book, anything bigger than a 2x2 should be a big cube.

Doesn't that make sense?

To counter. 4x4, like ever other higher nxn puzzle, is solved in the style of reducing it to a 3x3 state and then solving it as a 3x3. Unlike 4x4+, 3x3 doesn't have a reduction phase into a lower order puzzle => not big cube. You could also say that big cubes are nxn puzzle where you must solve centers and pair edges, something which is lacking in 3x3 ( I guess you still must ' solve centers ' but there is definitely no edge pairing ).

 

[Sub1Hour]

To counter. 4x4, like ever other higher nxn puzzle, is solved in the style of reducing it to a 3x3 state and then solving it as a 3x3. Unlike 4x4+, 3x3 doesn't have a reduction phase into a lower order puzzle => not big cube. You could also say that big cubes are nxn puzzle where you must solve centers and pair edges, something which is lacking in 3x3 ( I guess you still must ' solve centers ' but there is definitely no edge pairing ).

I guess thats fair, but 4x4 is so much more unique in the meta compared to 5-7. 5-7 methods are all basically the same for each cube but Yau4 and Yau5 are pretty different, and so is the edge pairing. I also will make the argument that it's not a big cube because being good at 4x4 doesn't automatically make you good at 5-7. There is a correlation, however sills from 5-7 don't translate very well to 4x4.

 

[Silky]

I guess thats fair, but 4x4 is so much more unique in the meta compared to 5-7. 5-7 methods are all basically the same for each cube but Yau4 and Yau5 are pretty different, and so is the edge pairing. I also will make the argument that it's not a big cube because being good at 4x4 doesn't automatically make you good at 5-7. There is a correlation, however sills from 5-7 don't translate very well to 4x4.

4x4 is really unique which is why I love it so much. It's big enough where it's significantly more complex than 3x3 but is still simple enough where direct solving is still relevant. It's like 3/4 of the solve is 'big cube stuff' and the rest is 3x3 stage which means you still have to be very fast at 3x3.

 

[Tabe]

He is also the CEO of a rival company so...

Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft in almost 15 years.

 

[abunickabhi]

ARGUMENT: 5-style will overtake the Roux method in the future, and nothing can save that, D2 L' U L2 S' L' S L' U' L D2.

 

[Jam88]

ARGUMENT: 5-style will overtake the Roux method in the future, and nothing can save that, D2 L' U L2 S' L' S L' U' L D2.

Isn't 5 style BLD?

 

[MJS Cubing]

Isn't 5 style BLD?

I think it's a joke, but if you get fast enough you can do all of your memo during inspection and one look 3x3.

 

[Mo_A2244]

I really don't understand why peoples opinions are being "meh'd." Surely due to the fact this is an "argument thread" you should at least insist on not "mehhing" people, but listening to their argument, and then considering what influenced that decision, and then begin to counter that opinion with your thoughts.

I find it strange that people continue to "meh" people or "eye-roll" people so much that the original person, who willingly told their opinion to a wide audience, begins to doubt their own opinion.. I personally think this thread is nothing but a way of either disowning someone's opinion or supporting a widely known one.

However, away from the rant....

PERSONAL PREFERENCE PEOPLE OH MY GOSH

I am extremely glad someone made this clear

Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft in almost 15 years.

I don't think it's been that long, probably around 8-10 years I think.

 

[abunickabhi]

I think it's a joke, but if you get fast enough you can do all of your memo during inspection and one look 3x3.

True, this is what I meant by 5-style overtaking Roux. 5-style will be a better corner's first method, L D2 M' F' M F D2 L'.

 

[MJS Cubing]

True, this is what I meant by 5-style overtaking Roux. 5-style will be a better corner's first method, L D2 M' F' M F D2 L'.

I don't see anyone doing Roux blind, so probably. Once look is the future

 

[DNF_Cuber]

I don't see anyone doing Roux blind, so probably. Once look is the future

if it can get under 70 moves or so.

 

[MJS Cubing]

I think extra moves is a small price to pay for one look.