SSC (Shadowslice Snow Columns) 3x3x3 Method

[shadowslice e]

This increases the alg count, but why not make it so that you could use TOLL (basically TCLL, but CP is not required) So the steps would follow. EOEdge+1 D-corners, final E-slice edge and corner (corner can be misoriented), TOLL, CP, LEE. I dont know about move-count overall, but could help out with people who have issues with WV recognition, or can't do setups for WV very well.

Well, I still think SLS is better because even with set up it averages <10 moves (STM) which is by itself much fewer than the TOLL (and with this stat I'm not even including the set up for a pair or even pseudo pair as the case may be)- believe me, I checked the algs- that's why I specifically say not to solve the FR edge in that step. In addition, SLS set up is very easy to explain, even to a beginner- find last edge, bring to D-layer (just track it and you won't even have to find it), AUF, insert into correct slot in U-layer (each is listed in the alg set I posted). Basically, (AUF M2 if in upper layer, AUD if in D-layer) AUF, M2, AUF, alg plus the recognition is no harder than TCOLL

 

[sqAree]

Does anyone use SSC for speedsolving actually?
Also, how does it compare to Roux in terms of efficiency and recognition?

 

[shadowslice e]

Does anyone use SSC for speedsolving actually?
Also, how does it compare to Roux in terms of efficiency and recognition?

Well, I don't know of anyone using SSC-O as a main method (I use a slightly adapted form of it just for fun) the recognition is about the same as roux all things considered though the first and second steps are slightly more difficult for this variant.

SSC-M is essentially the same as ECE and crafto is currently trying to get fast with that (I will try to get fast with SSC-O once my Roux times are a bit better).

Tbh, it's too new a method still for all of the aspects of it to be known quite yet.

 

[sqAree]

Well, I don't know of anyone using SSC-O as a main method (I use a slightly adapted form of it just for fun) the recognition is about the same as roux all things considered though the first and second steps are slightly more difficult for this variant.

SSC-M is essentially the same as ECE and crafto is currently trying to get fast with that (I will try to get fast with SSC-O once my Roux times are a bit better).

Tbh, it's too new a method still for all of the aspects of it to be known quite yet.

Alright, thank you.
I consider learning it (SSC-O), that's why I ask. I wouldn't really use it as my main method because I want to stick to cfop but I have to learn WV anyway for that.
I think this method is way cooler than Roux tbh.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Is there a video tutorial or something? This method seems cool but I'm confused on 80% of th directions (probably my fault)

 

[shadowslice e]

Is there a video tutorial or something? This method seems cool but I'm confused on 80% of th directions (probably my fault)

I'm working on it. Probably nothing until after exams though. :/ What are you confused on? The Eo edge+1 is similar to ZZ sp the Eoline tutorials will work.

If you want to you could also look up HTA as this method is pretty similar to that. There's also the wiki page on it if that is any help: [wiki]SSC (Shadowslice Snow Columns)[/wiki]

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

I'm working on it. Probably nothing until after exams though. :/ What are you confused on? The Eo edge+1 is similar to ZZ sp the Eoline tutorials will work.

If you want to you could also look up HTA as this method is pretty similar to that. There's also the wiki page on it if that is any help: [wiki]SSC (Shadowslice Snow Columns)[/wiki]

After reading it over a few times and reading the wiki, I think I get it now, but a video would still help (it always does). Thanks, nice method!

 

[Berd]

After reading it over a few times and reading the wiki, I think I get it now, but a video would still help (it always does). Thanks, nice method!

I can show the method in a video if you want?

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

I can show the method in a video if you want?

I believe I have it now, just took me some time. Step 3 is the only one I don't know how to do (probably because I haven't solved my square-1 yet), so I just used an alg from Zagorec. I'll learn it eventually.

 

[Berd]

I believe I have it now, just took me some time. Step 3 is the only one I don't know how to do (probably because I haven't solved my square-1 yet), so I just used an alg from Zagorec. I'll learn it eventually.

Awesome!

 

[sqAree]

For Corner Permutation in step 3:

adj top right: R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U'
adj bottom right: R' U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R2
adj top front&bot front: R2 U' R2 (U D) R2 D' R2
diag top: F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F'
diag bottom: [R2 (U D) R2 D]*3
double diag: R2 (U D') R2 (U D) R2 U2 R2
top diag, bot right adj: (R2 U' R2 U) (R2 U' R2 U') R2 U2 R2
top right adj, bot diag: (R2 D' R2 D) (R2 D' R2 D') R2 D2 R2

But before that you have to bring the corners in their respective layer. Pretty intuitive, one doesn't need the square-1 stuff for that.
Doing all step 3 in one alg sounds nice and could be done intuitively but I guess recognition wouldn't be that great.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Doing all step 3 in one alg sounds nice and could be done intuitively but I guess recognition wouldn't be that great.

R2 U R2 U' R2 swap FUR with FDR. Decent recognition, keeps orientation of everything, but you have to do it an even number of times because it also swap the 2 E slice edges on R.

 

[TyeDye]

I can show the method in a video if you want?

I know that the other poster seemed to understand it but is it possible for you to make a video for me, please? I'm still having a lot of trouble understanding it, even with the scramble because I don't have a visual.

 

[Berd]

I know that the other poster seemed to understand it but is it possible for you to make a video for me, please? I'm still having a lot of trouble understanding it, even with the scramble because I don't have a visual.

I'll try and get round to it this easter break!

 

[shadowslice e]

I'll try and get round to it this easter break!

Which variant?

 

[Berd]

Which variant?

That's what I need you for

 

[TyeDye]

Which variant?

Can you do the one with the orientation. I think you called it SLS-O. If you want, I'd be interested in the misoriented one as well, but if you could start with the oriented one, that would help a lot

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Can I do a video on this and some your other methods for YouTube? I like them.

 

[shadowslice e]

Can I do a video on this and some your other methods for YouTube? I like them.

Sure that'd be great

They're fairly complex though so be warned

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

http://youtu.be/KeLoHqZInWs
First cubing video, they'll get better (I hope).