Silicone Japan D-39 is make some influence to Rubik's plastic

[lovelyboy1712]

Silicone japan D-39 Prostaff

Using silicone make cube worse, may it be right ? I've got some infomation about that silicone. After long times, it would make some influence to rubik plastic. And I'm disturbed as if how it be in fact ! So please help me about this question

 

[demma]

Is your title a question or a statement? Did you prove it or someone told you? Whit "rubik's plastic" are you talking about a rubik's brand or in general about the puzzle?

 

[Kirjava]

D39 has Kirjava's approval.

 

[TK 421]

I think because the D-39 is intended for chain and stuff. It may just contain other materials that if the silicone already worn off it will make the cube worse.

-Correct me if I'm wrong-

 

[riffz]

Is your title a question or a statement?

Obviously a question.

 

[r_517]

it's the best silicone i've ever used. just one reminder. don't put too much on the cube

 

[TK 421]

it's the best silicone i've ever used. just one reminder. don't put too much on the cube

ah, melting. almost did that to my guhong when i slapped a mosquito for like ten seconds. after spray, just break it in 5+solve

 

[jiggy]

I use D-39, I haven't noticed any degradation to my cube.

 

[Zubon]

On the front of the can, the third bullet point says "Contains no solvents so it won't harm plastics or rubber."

However, it does say that it prevents rust so I suspect that it contains petroleum based substances similar to WD-40. I doubt that it is 100% silicone.

 

[lovelyboy1712]

BUt ,you choose what type : D-39 ; Jig-A-Loo ; SILICONE crc 808 or Heavyduty ?
I used , guhong - lingyun - a5 - ghosthand2 - dayan 4x4 - DIY ver 3

 

[demma]

Obviously a question.

- "Thread: Silicone japan D-39 is make some influence to rubik's plastic"
- "Forum > General Cubing > Hardware Area > Silicone japan D-39 is make some influence to rubik's plastic"

 

[satellitedanny]

how many seconds do you spray it in for?

 

[gundamslicer]

how many seconds do you spray it in for?

1 Whole bottle jks


2 secs total

 

[daniel0731ex]

Most silicone spray have solvents containing acetone (30~40% in CRC), which, as you all already know, is a solvent (i.e. is able to dissolve) for several substances including ABS. Using them in minor amounts is OK, but excessive use will result in erosion in the plastic pieces.

What's bad about Jig-A-Loo is that its solvent contains 30~60% methylene chloride, and the chemical, I assume that all you already know this, is usually used to chemically weld plastics together.


I'm not too sure about D-39, but Cyclo definetly have it...

 

[Zubon]

Most silicone spray have solvents containing acetone (30~40% in CRC), which, as you all already know, is a solvent (i.e. is able to dissolve) for several substances including ABS. Using them in minor amounts is OK, but excessive use will result in erosion in the plastic pieces.

In the case of D-39, it says right there on the front of the can "Contains no solvents so it won't harm plastics or rubber."

But I know that it is not 100% silicone oil like most other silicone sprays because it also advertises that it can waterproof and shine surfaces.
If I get time, Ill go to the store and read the back of the can to find out exactly what is in it.

 

[daniel0731ex]

In the case of D-39, it says right there on the front of the can "Contains no solvents so it won't harm plastics or rubber."

But I know that it is not 100% silicone oil like most other silicone sprays because it also advertises that it can waterproof and shine surfaces.
If I get time, Ill go to the store and read the back of the can to find out exactly what is in it.

there is no such thing as a 100% silicone oil spray.
And silicone do shine surfaces and are waterproof.

 

[smartkids]

Most of solvent on D-39 is boiled in 1-2 second after spraying, solvent have no chance to chemically weld ABS.

 

[Zubon]

there is no such thing as a 100% silicone oil spray.

When I look at the can of silicone spray I have, it says that it contains "silicone oil" and a "propellant" which it says is LPG.
It also says that it is "solvent free so it won't damage plastic"

It even advertises on the front that it is 100% silicon oil.

Would the propellant be considered a solvent? Or would there be other stuff in the can that they don't list on the ingredients? (which would break Japanese law for labeling of commercial chemicals)

 

[EricReese]

I find that D39 works best with AV cubes. Though granted I also use D39 for my big cubes sometiimes. Not anymore (Maru )

 

[daniel0731ex]

Solvent = something that dissolves a certain substance
In the case of silicone lubricants, it dissolves the silicon compound molecules.

You need solvents in silicone sprays to allow them to be "sprayed". The solvents drys up after being exposed to air,
which leaves a layer of silicon compund on the plastic surface.

I''m not too sure but, I think silicone sprays contains silicone rather than silicone oil. Or it could be both, varying on different products.

But silicone spray could never be 100% silicone or silicone oil, otherwise it would be a solid block or a thick liquid.


(I am no expert in chemistry, if someone see mistakes in my post, feel free to point it out and explain to us.)

PS: Cyclo uses dry silicone.