Should we ban pillowed 7x7x7s?

[StephenC]

Also:

The colours of puzzles must be solid, the same per colour, and clearly distinct from other colours.
3e1) The stickers/tiles/textures/paint may show an image (in one colour), as long as all stickers/tiles/textures/paint of a colour have the image and the same image.

Does this mean that cubesmith supercube (the type with arrows) stickers are allowed? I am tired right now, so perhaps I am not thinking straight, but this would seem to permit them. You would still be able to identify the piece using the direction of the arrow, and the colour of the sticker. If I am correct, and this is the case, then you could achieve the same advantage that you would get by using a stickerless cube, without violating the regulations.

To answer the question that was not directed at me; I think that the Pochmann style supercube stickers would not be allowed, since the colour is not be uniform. They are however not violating the concept that has developed in my mind of a 'canonical speedcube.

 

[qqwref]

qqwref: Do you think adding pochmann-esque supercube stickers to corners and edges so that you can see what the other edge piece colour is when only looking at one half of them should be allowed?

I'm in favor of defining a canonical speedcube, and if we agree that it means you are limited to seeing a specific set of stickers at once (which I think most of us do) then that shouldn't be allowed. I just don't think that being able to see a limited set of stickers was an intentional part of the "basic concept" of the puzzle.


I think we could replace 3g and 3h with something like this:

3g1) The possible moves on the puzzle must be the same as on the original mass-produced version.
3g2) A solver using the puzzle may not be able to see more stickers at once than on the original mass-produced version.
3g3) The puzzle cannot automatically perform any moves or otherwise change its own state.

that is, we specifically specify what "the basic concept" is and what would go against it.

 

[StephenC]

You would still be seeing the same set of stickers, they would have information about the stickers at the back. You would still technically not be seeing the stickers at the back, even though you would know what they were.

Possible problem with proposed 3g2: the original (mass produced) rubik's cube was 57 mm. If you have a small enough cube you can see more stickers than the original rubik's cube. Not really a huge problem, but I think that it is worth consideration. s

 

[qqwref]

Yep, that's another thing we have to think about. Is it a problem that with a small enough cube you can see both L and R at once? Because that's the exact same effect a pillowed cube has.

 

[InfiniCuber]

Yep, that's another thing we have to think about. Is it a problem that with a small enough cube you can see both L and R at once? Because that's the exact same effect a pillowed cube has.

This is why they shouldn't be banned. Since they are allowed now, they should stay so.

 

[samchoochiu]

I disagree.

Tell us why.

 

[Michael Womack]

http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/#article-3-puzzles We saved the pillowed 7x7 from being banned yes

 

[Bob]

http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/#article-3-puzzles We saved the pillowed 7x7 from being banned yes

...for now

 

[Michael Womack]

...for now

So that means that we can't use the pillowed 7x7 within the next 6 months or so

 

[Bob]

So that means that we can't use the pillowed 7x7 within the next 6 months or so

no it does not

 

[AdrenalineKick]

Just remove every event except the original 3x3, only allowing the Rubik's brand 3x3, with original stickers, and no modding nor lubrication. Problem solved.