ShengShou 8x8x8 Released

[Andreaillest]

Agreed on it being too expensive. Won't be getting this, I suck at big cubes.
I'm actually curious on the quality if the cube and how it will compare to the V-8, whenever that will be released.

 

[YrMyKnight]

5x5 is the farthest I'm willing to go,so no for me

 

[Goosly]

I will be getting the SS 6x6 (+ few other cubes) for christmas. Maybe I'll buy the SS 8x8 later, at least the price should go down first.

 

[Cheese11]

New guitar and new delay pedals are my main focus right now, so I'm out.

 

[whauk]

what about pictures of the mechanism?

 

[Czery]

Lets not make this another thread about patent infringement, but v-cubes owns the intellectual property to the 8x8 design SS uses.

If so, why hasn't the V-cubes (attempt) to stop the production (or the selling) of SS-8x8's?
Unless they have already something, that is.

 

[iEnjoyCubing]

Bought one several weeks ago from E3CubeStore and am waiting for it to be shipped, keeps getting delayed by the factory :/

 

[Drake]

Ok wha's the point exactly? You buy KO because they are cheaper right? Now that Shengshou put out a cube that look pretty much diffrent from V cube dessign you complain of the price. But if the dessign is really original, they worked hard to dessign it, so that from where comme the price I would say. And let me guess, you guys will wait for a KO to comme out -.-? 88$ for an 8x8x8 is a nice price if it's not a KO personnaly.

(Im not talking about all of you guys, just somme of you that are like that...)

 

[masterofthebass]

If so, why hasn't the V-cubes (attempt) to stop the production (or the selling) of SS-8x8's?
Unless they have already something, that is.

Its quite difficult to stop KO production in china. If Nike and Rolex can't do it, why would you expect a small company like v-cubes?

 

[freshcuber]

Is the 8x8 even a true KO? It doesn't use the clicking mechanism which is a huge difference since the only thing making a V6 work is the clicking mechanism. Everyone who's failed the the Pi mod knows that especially well. It's also cubic. Although that's mostly a cosmetic difference and V-Cube could do the same by enlarging their edge pieces they don't. If it's anything like the SS 6x6 then it also has more anti-pop mechanisms and the cubies are shaped slightly differently. I'd say it looks to be more a cube inspired by the V8 design, but not a direct KO

 

[Drake]

Yeah, but the pieces can still be similar, even if it doesn't use the clicking mech.

 

[freshcuber]

The clicking mechanism is to V-Cube 6x6 as suspension is to a car. Without it you would have everything needed to make it run but nothing to hold it together. If you made a car with no suspension it'd be pretty cutting edge.

 

[qqwref]

I don't like how everything with a remotely V-Cube-like mechanism is considered a knockoff. Morally, if an even cube is produced that doesn't have the problems the original mechanism has, it's an improvement that should be available to the community, and it's certainly not a direct copy or an imitation of the original (which doesn't even exist). We don't get into these kind of knockoff discussions whenever a 3x3x3 is created that has some similarities to the original Rubik design, right?

Anyway, I'm kinda considering buying this... $88 is a lot, but on the other hand, cubical 8x8x8. I guess at the moment I'm going to wait to see what people who have already bought one think of it first.

 

[freshcuber]

I don't like how everything with a remotely V-Cube-like mechanism is considered a knockoff. Morally, if an even cube is produced that doesn't have the problems the original mechanism has, it's an improvement that should be available to the community, and it's certainly not a direct copy or an imitation of the original (which doesn't even exist). We don't get into these kind of knockoff discussions whenever a 3x3x3 is created that has some similarities to the original Rubik design, right?

This. There's a ton of big cube KO discussion or anything slightly resembling a V-Cube design because V-Cube has made such a big deal about patent infringements. How much variation is there in megaminx designs comparatively?

 

[masterofthebass]

Why does everyone insist on bringing up puzzles that aren't patented anymore... The v-cube patent also does not mention anything about a clicking mechanism, as it is meant to cover the overall mechanism for how the puzzle can exist. To use your car analogy, adding a radio to a car that uses a patented engine doesn't mean it isn't infringing.

 

[qqwref]

The difference here is that the change in mechanism provides significantly better turning. If adding a radio made the car handle that much better, I think I'd say it was a significant change worthy of being considered a new type of car.

 

[Coolster01]

Anyone ordered it yet? Make an unboxing, and I'll sub to you on youtube.

 

[masterofthebass]

The difference here is that the change in mechanism provides significantly better turning. If adding a radio made the car handle that much better, I think I'd say it was a significant change worthy of being considered a new type of car.

Except you don't get to decide that. The government does. The claims of the v-cube patent are the only thing that matter, claim 1 describing the mechanism in the geometric sense, ignoring superfluous pieces of plastic.

 

[slateman]

My V-Cube 7x7 is wrapped under the Xmas tree and I'm quite excited about that. I hope it pops less than my V6. This will be my first pillowed cube.

So...$88 is a lot of money...but I will certainly have to get one for the old collection. C'mon, 2x2-->8x8...that's kinda cool. It'll be more novelty than serious cube, as I'll never finish it in under 25 minutes or something ludicrous. I'll get it...just not for a while. So very curious though!

 

[qqwref]

Except you don't get to decide that. The government does.

I'm not arguing about whether this violates the U.S. parent; since I'm pretty sure neither of us understands the intricacies of patent law, or has the resources to actually affect any potential decision, that would obviously be pointless. I'm arguing about whether the community ought to consider this Yet Another V-Cube Knockoff, and I think we definitely shouldn't.