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Is Max's 5x5 reign coming to an end soon? I can't wait until Seung gets this officially!
[Unofficial] Seung-Hyuk Nahm 39.71 5x5 Ao12 + "SWR" 38.11 Ao5
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Is Max's 5x5 reign coming to an end soon? I can't wait until Seung gets this officially!
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That's nowhere close to UWR. Max has a 34 ao5, a 36 ao12, and a 38 ao50.
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I'm surprised people still aren't familiar with the definitions.
UWR ≠WB
UWR means it's sub-WR but unofficial. WB is the single fastest single/average, regardless if it's official or not. For example, Tymon's 2.98 is an UWR, it's not the fastest in the world but it is the unofficial world record. But, Max Park's 7x7 WR single is also WB because nobody has ever done it faster than that. The prefix YT just designates that it is on camera. In which case this could also be called YTWR. YTWB aren't always the fastest records but they are the fastest ever caught on camera.
Sorry for the confusion I caused by not being more clear for those unaware but maybe you should look up definitions before you claim someone a liar. (I don't take any offense to that, but just keep it in mind.)
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He won’t get wr, max is too far ahead. Definitely should be able to AsR
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Not true. UWR and WB are the same thing. They both mean the best time ever set.
I'm surprised people still aren't familiar with the definitions.
UWR ≠WB
UWR means it's sub-WR but unofficial. WB is the single fastest single/average, regardless if it's official or not. For example, Tymon's 2.98 is an UWR, it's not the fastest in the world but it is the unofficial world record. But, Max Park's 7x7 WR single is also WB because nobody has ever done it faster than that. The prefix YT just designates that it is on camera. In which case this could also be called YTWR. YTWB aren't always the fastest records but they are the fastest ever caught on camera.
Sorry for the confusion I caused by not being more clear for those unaware but maybe you should look up definitions before you claim someone a liar. (I don't take any offense to that, but just keep it in mind.)
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UWR = Faster than the current world record.
WB = Faster than any time ever.
It's really not that hard.
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If a solve is sub Wr but isn’t WB it is in no man’s land. You can only really say ‘Sub WR’ but if somebody has a better time at home than you it really doesn’t matter. It is neither
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I'm not trying to sound like an idiot, but I don't know where you guys got your info from.
UWR=Unofficial World Record
WB=Unofficial World Record
It's possible that i'm wrong, so if I am, sorry, but I don't think I am.
Quoting the wiki- "This is a list of Unofficial World Records (abbreviated as UWR or WB (World Best)). A UWR is the fastest time for an event regardless if it was set in a WCA competition or not, or the event is not a WCA event at all. Note that these are decided by general consensus, and are not in any way officially sanctioned."
I know the wiki isn't the most reliable source, but I can't see this being wrong.
UWR=Unofficial World Record
WB=Unofficial World Record
It's possible that i'm wrong, so if I am, sorry, but I don't think I am.
Quoting the wiki- "This is a list of Unofficial World Records (abbreviated as UWR or WB (World Best)). A UWR is the fastest time for an event regardless if it was set in a WCA competition or not, or the event is not a WCA event at all. Note that these are decided by general consensus, and are not in any way officially sanctioned."
I know the wiki isn't the most reliable source, but I can't see this being wrong.
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DuckubingCuber347
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Really? According to Seung this is just a random ao12 he recorded. If he can get it like that casually I don't see why he couldn't do even better if he got very good solves. Is Max far ahead globally, yes, but ao5s aren't hard to get in a shorter event like 5x5 so I really don't see why not. Seung just proved here he can do it lol.
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What does this post mean exactly, I would like it if you clarified. I think it's impressive if someone beats a world record at home that people thought couldn't be beaten by anybody other than Max Park. Seung is unofficially the 2nd fastest 5x5 solver and this video demonstrates that he can do this in competition. Methinks it matters if someone can prove themselves. Seung can still improve too so I don't see why he couldn't beat it in the future if he wasn't already capable of it.
WB= World's Best
Please do not double post. Posts can be edited if you had something related to the original that you only thought of after.
By definition, record means "best" so that was my mistake in saying it was literal; however, now that I think of it, I have no idea where I got the definition. I thought Daniel Goodman had a video but it appears he did not. Maybe it's something I made up in a dream because it seems real to me that this was something.
Thank you for your input.
tymon's 2.98 was never UWR
I'm surprised people still aren't familiar with the definitions.
UWR ≠WB
UWR means it's sub-WR but unofficial. WB is the single fastest single/average, regardless if it's official or not. For example, Tymon's 2.98 is an UWR, it's not the fastest in the world but it is the unofficial world record. But, Max Park's 7x7 WR single is also WB because nobody has ever done it faster than that. The prefix YT just designates that it is on camera. In which case this could also be called YTWR. YTWB aren't always the fastest records but they are the fastest ever caught on camera.
Sorry for the confusion I caused by not being more clear for those unaware but maybe you should look up definitions before you claim someone a liar. (I don't take any offense to that, but just keep it in mind.)
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Wow SHN can get the AsR at his next competition. That's really good solves right there.
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Nice!
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To be honest I really don't think anyone is going to be beating max park any time in the next year or so unless they get pretty darn lucky.
I'm not saying Max is a liar because he does have the skill but all of those solves weren't recorded, so there is some doubt.
If we are not talking about solves that are not recorded
official: ao5 37.14, ao12 38.68, ao25 39.05, ao50 39.47 and ao100 39.86
from his ao12 from 2020: ao5 37.59, ao12 38.80
DuckubingCuber347
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Indeed, this is true but keep in mind that Seung just returned from a two-year cubing break, something Max and Tymon have never done, and has attended very few competitions since his return. Nerves still exist. Once he gets used to the competition environment I'm sure he can do much better.
I find it curious that the entirety of this thread is people discouraging Seung's potential because I made a comment about it. You guys are a nice bunch.
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UWR=WB because if you say every solve that anyone has done on 3x3 that's under 3.47 is UWR that doesn't make sense. I rest my case
I'm surprised people still aren't familiar with the definitions.
UWR ≠WB
UWR means it's sub-WR but unofficial. WB is the single fastest single/average, regardless if it's official or not. For example, Tymon's 2.98 is an UWR, it's not the fastest in the world but it is the unofficial world record. But, Max Park's 7x7 WR single is also WB because nobody has ever done it faster than that. The prefix YT just designates that it is on camera. In which case this could also be called YTWR. YTWB aren't always the fastest records but they are the fastest ever caught on camera.
Sorry for the confusion I caused by not being more clear for those unaware but maybe you should look up definitions before you claim someone a liar. (I don't take any offense to that, but just keep it in mind.)
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I have never heard UWR to mean anything other than the exact same thing as WB. We used to use the terms "PB" and "official PB" to refer to our best solve ever and our best solve in competition, but that was a little confusing, so we switched to using "PB" and "PR". By extension, UWR/WR became WB/WR. It makes 0 sense to me to have multiple solves of different speeds all called "records" when none of them are anything of the sort.
I'm surprised people still aren't familiar with the definitions.
UWR ≠WB
UWR means it's sub-WR but unofficial. WB is the single fastest single/average, regardless if it's official or not. For example, Tymon's 2.98 is an UWR, it's not the fastest in the world but it is the unofficial world record. But, Max Park's 7x7 WR single is also WB because nobody has ever done it faster than that. The prefix YT just designates that it is on camera. In which case this could also be called YTWR. YTWB aren't always the fastest records but they are the fastest ever caught on camera.
Sorry for the confusion I caused by not being more clear for those unaware but maybe you should look up definitions before you claim someone a liar. (I don't take any offense to that, but just keep it in mind.)
DuckubingCuber347
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Seung-Hyuk now has YTWB 5x5 single.
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I definitely concur...
additionally it should be noted that such solves do not include anybody doing solves that are not on cam (e.g. YT=YouTube) and/or in front of (preferably relevant, known, and reliable) witnesses
That's also why we use the term PB=Personal Best whether anyone else saw it or it was caught on cam or not
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