Scrambling 4x4.

[hdskull]

Since 3 days ago I've been doing averages of 12s on the 4x4 to practice for the UCSD coming up soon (I've never really done 4x4 before). I use WCA scrambler and today when I checked my scrambles they weren't actually correct.:confused:

So, my question is, how do you scramble the 4x4 ??

r as in both layers on the right or just the inner layer ? because I remember people telling me it's both from this forum, but I never once scrambled right ?

Thanks.

 

[andrewvo1324]

Since 3 days ago I've been doing averages of 12s on the 4x4 to practice for the UCSD coming up soon (I've never really done 4x4 before). I use WCA scrambler and today when I checked my scrambles they weren't actually correct.:confused:

So, my question is, how do you scramble the 4x4 ??

r as in both layers on the right or just the inner layer ? because I remember people telling me it's both from this forum, but I never once scrambled right ?

Thanks.

r = inner layer only
R= outer layer
R* = both

 

[hdskull]

R* ? I've never seen that, but I'll try that out to see if it matches, because I remember someone telling me that multi-slice was the inner only thing...

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

from what I thought:
r= inner right layer
R= outer right layer
(Rr)= both

 

[andrewvo1324]

from what I thought:
r= inner right layer
R= outer right layer
(Rr)= both

Yea my bad Rr is Both

 

[ExoCorsair]

Click "multi-slice" on the scrambler.
Then r = (Rr).

If you need clarification, just ask.

 

[alexc]

During scrambles, lower case letters stand for double layer turns. So, if you're doing a scramble and you see r or f2 or b', it's a double layer turn. However, the standard solving notation is:
r-just inner layer
R-just outer layer
(Rr)-both layers

I think that scrambling programs should just use the solving notation.

 

[fourdown00]

r=middle layer
R=outer layer
(Rr) or R*=both layers

 

[qqwref]

Well yeah, originally r meant just the second layer. Jaap's scrambler lets you turn multislice (which makes the r in the scramble mean both the first and second layer), or not. So if you leave multislice off it will work with the normal solving notation. The thing is, though, a lot of people prefer using multislice when they scramble, because it makes scrambles shorter to execute but no less mixed up. So nowadays, even when scrambles are not in multislice, people tend to execute them like that just to make it easier. WCA scrambles tend to be in multislice for this reason (but of course you should always check to make sure if you scramble for a competition).

 

[Johannes91]

r = (Rr)

r = (Rr)
r = (R(Rr))
r = (R(R(Rr)))
r = (R(R(R(Rr))))
...

 

[Johannes91]

[multislice] makes scrambles shorter to execute but no less mixed up.

Are you sure? Intuitively it seems to me that it makes the scramble quality worse.

 

[hdskull]

Thanks guys for the clarifications and responses.