Rubik's Cube World Championship 2017 - Paris, France (13-16 July 2017)

[David Zemdegs]

I'm a firm believer in qualifying times for large competitions. All other competitions like the Olympics have them. As it stands I can compete at this years Worlds for the 3x3x3 but someone like me with a 2 minute average shouldnt be able to IMHO. But as I'll be there, and the rules allow me, then I will

 

[mark49152]

As it stands I can compete at this years Worlds for the 3x3x3 but someone like me with a 2 minute average shouldnt be able to IMHO. But as I'll be there, and the rules allow me, then I will

Technically there is still qualification for 3x3 because you must have a WCA result already. So at least there won't be hundreds of people entering who have never been to a comp before. In my opinion that's a good criterion, because it keeps it open to all abilities but weeds out those people who aren't committed enough to attend smaller comps and only want to go to Worlds because it's the big one.

Maybe in future, qualification times will become necessary even for 3x3 to keep the numbers manageable - we'll see.

 

[Aysha]

Technically there is still qualification for 3x3 because you must have a WCA result already. So at least there won't be hundreds of people entering who have never been to a comp before. In my opinion that's a good criterion, because it keeps it open to all abilities but weeds out those people who aren't committed enough to attend smaller comps and only want to go to Worlds because it's the big one.

Maybe in future, qualification times will become necessary even for 3x3 to keep the numbers manageable - we'll see.

I completely understand that a World Championship should have a certain criterea for competitors to enter but I believe the criterea should be set more fairly taking into consideration all of the international cubers. I live in a country where I only know one other cuber who competed officially and myself. No competitions are held here. I had to travel to another country just to compete (we actually both did), which is quite expensive and I can't afford to travel to other countries just to have official records.

I am planning to attend the World Championship yet with this criterea I can only compete in 2x2 and 3x3 whereas I would have loved to compete in pyraminx, skewb, OH and 4x4 (if I could drop my times to meet the cutoff by then). Yet to do so, it would mean that I need to travel just to attend a competition.

 

[AlphaSheep]

I completely understand that a World Championship should have a certain criterea for competitors to enter but I believe the criterea should be set more fairly taking into consideration all of the international cubers. I live in a country where I only know one other cuber who competed officially and myself. No competitions are held here. I had to travel to another country just to compete (we actually both did), which is quite expensive and I can't afford to travel to other countries just to have official records.

I am planning to attend the World Championship yet with this criterea I can only compete in 2x2 and 3x3 whereas I would have loved to compete in pyraminx, skewb, OH and 4x4 (if I could drop my times to meet the cutoff by then). Yet to do so, it would mean that I need to travel just to attend a competition.

I know you dream of attending a World Championship, but you have to make a choice - attend the World Championship and only compete in a few events, or attend a smaller competition where you can compete in all of the events you want to. I don't see the problem here... In fact, it is probably much cheaper to find a competition closer to you with more events that you can do than to want to go to a competition in one of the most expensive cities in the world.

I'd also love to go to the World Championship, but I've accepted that I will have to wait until the future.

Regarding living in a country with no competitions, we were in the same situation a few years ago. You don't have to travel to attend competitions, and in fact that's just the wrong thing to do. You should be creating a community of cubers and holding unofficial competitions in public places. Once you've got reasonable interest, get a delegate in to help you with an official one.

 

[Kev43]

I completely understand that a World Championship should have a certain criterea for competitors to enter but I believe the criterea should be set more fairly taking into consideration all of the international cubers.

Do you have an example or an idea?

 

[Aysha]

Do you have an example or an idea?

Perhaps if there was a way to prove your times/solves by submitting video proof. To detect fake solves certain rules would have to be followed, for example someone would have to do the scramble for you and then perhaps a WCA delegate would have to watch the solve happen live.

Or if a system generated scramble appears and then you have a certain time limit to scramble the cube (times would differ depending on the cube) and then the scramble disappears and you have time to inspect and solve. Obviously these won't be counted as official solves but at least it's a way to prove that you could qualify and that you are within the time limit range.

Not sure how feesible those ideas are but I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[biscuit]

Perhaps if there was a way to prove your times/solves by submitting video proof. To detect fake solves certain rules would have to be followed, for example someone would have to do the scramble for you and then perhaps a WCA delegate would have to watch the solve happen live.

Or if a system generated scramble appears and then you have a certain time limit to scramble the cube (times would differ depending on the cube) and then the scramble disappears and you have time to inspect and solve. Obviously these won't be counted as official solves but at least it's a way to prove that you could qualify and that you are within the time limit range.

Not sure how feesible those ideas are but I'm just thinking out loud.

No way to verify these. The ONLY times that can be verified are in WCA competitions.

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

Hey everyone, I have a hotel booked very close to the venue, from the 12th to the 17th (covering every night of the comp + the night before). Apparently the room as a fair bit of space.

If anyone needs a place to sleep, hit me up.

 

[World Championship 2017]

Hey everyone,

We’re pleased to announce that registrations for WC2017 will open tomorrow (Monday 13th) at 8am UTC!

As some of you may know, almost all competitions in France are free, you just register, show up and compete.
As far as I can remember we’ve always been working like this, and this is thanks to the generosity of our community, and the fact that we almost never pay for venues.
When there are expenses to cover (hardware, medals and such), we usually fund ourselves by proposing services (such as food and beverages) on either a “pay what you want” basis or a fixed fee, or simply via donations.

Unfortunately this time we couldn’t consider having free registrations, therefore we’ve set a (fixed) registration fee as low as we could, and we kindly ask people who can afford it to donate (there is no small donations).
We know Paris is an expensive city (even for French people!), and the last thing we wanted to do is take more money than needed from competitors who are already spending a lot of money in their journey to Paris.

The base registration fee will be 10€, additionally to that you can pay what you want!
Registration and payment will happen on the WCA Website here.

Philippe Virouleau, on behalf of the WC2017 organization team.

 

[AlexMaass]

https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/competitions/WC2017/register

It is opening tomorrow and the registration fee should be 10 Euros.

Also, this is the premiere of the WCA payment system and I have heard they are using "Stripe" for payment.

 

[newtonbase]

I have paid and registered but the registration screen is showing money still owing. Is there a problem with it?
2015ADAM03

 

[World Championship 2017]

For those who tried to register before ~8:30 UTC: there was a visual bug that showed the payment form *before* the registration was submitted.
The intended flow was to have the competitors submit the registration, then have them pay.

Trying to pay before registering would fail because the payment wouldn't be attached to an actual registration.
In this case Stripe would probably validate the competitor's card data (hence the button on the form turning green), but the charge wouldn't actually be placed by the website.

If you tried to pay and the website doesn't show a payment, it's probably because of this.

In any case people having trouble registering should feel free to contact directly the organization team.

 

[newtonbase]

For those who tried to register before ~8:30 UTC: there was a visual bug that showed the payment form *before* the registration was submitted.
The intended flow was to have the competitors submit the registration, then have them pay.

Trying to pay before registering would fail because the payment wouldn't be attached to an actual registration.
In this case Stripe would probably validate the competitor's card data (hence the button on the form turning green), but the charge wouldn't actually be placed by the website.

If you tried to pay and the website doesn't show a payment, it's probably because of this.

In any case people having trouble registering should feel free to contact directly the organization team.

Thanks. I've paid again and it looks like it has worked this time.

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

Whoa, look at all those people with names from W to Z.

At last, I may not be in the last group for something! (implying we're going alphabetically)

 

[Mollerz]

Whoa, look at all those people with names from W to Z.

At last, I may not be in the last group for something! (implying we're going alphabetically)

It's never done alphabetically at majors, it's just how we do it in the UK for ease of organisation.

 

[FastCubeMaster]

It's never done alphabetically at majors, it's just how we do it in the UK for ease of organisation.

And lots of other places.

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

It's never done alphabetically at majors, it's just how we do it in the UK for ease of organisation.

Well shucks.

Anyway, extra wow, over 600 people signed up in a day of registration. Surely that's a record, right?

 

[newtonbase]

Well shucks.

Anyway, extra wow, over 600 people signed up in a day of registration. Surely that's a record, right?

Crazy. Two thirds full already.

 

[AlexMaass]

the WCA website seems to be down, likely because of so many people registering
https://github.com/thewca/worldcubeassociation.org/issues/1434

 

[newtonbase]

the WCA website seems to be down, likely because of so many people registering
https://github.com/thewca/worldcubeassociation.org/issues/1434

It's back.