Rowe Variation: My new last slot/OLL experiment

You know looking through the algs, I guess I can see some merit to it. But it certainly is an extreme method (compairing learning to usefulness). I guess with your recognition skills this could give you an extra edge. I'm keen to see how you get on with it.
 
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If you want to have a link to printer friendly versions Rowe, I have made them for UB,UL and WV, let me know if you want me to make the rest for you and I can email them to you.
 
Escher said:
http://absolutemind.pagesperso-orange.fr/roll-angl.html

Basically just using COLL recognition to help determine which category of PLL you'll get, and thus aiding recognition a little.
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more than a little, you can determine if you are getting a ENVY and avoid it, if you are getting all corners permuted or if you are getting two corners permuted, you can tell exactly where they will be and thus only have to recognize the alg and then your already know AUF plus perm.
 
jskyler91 said:
more than a little, you can determine if you are getting a ENVY and avoid it, if you are getting all corners permuted or if you are getting two corners permuted, you can tell exactly where they will be and thus only have to recognize the alg and then your already know AUF plus perm.
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I don't think R-OLL is *that* useful if you don't actually know a fair amount of OLLCP. Honestly, unless your PLL recognition is terrible, you won't shave much time off your solves by taking the time to recognize the R-OLL case just to shave a very small amount of time off your PLL recognition. If you couple it with actually knowing OLLCP algs then it's certainly worthwhile in many cases.

Anyway, RLS is pretty sweet. A lot of the algs are great and easy to learn - I'm up to 35 after a couple of days. I've already had a few sub 7s using it too, which is definitely motivating.
 
Anthony said:
I don't think R-OLL is *that* useful if you don't actually know a fair amount of OLLCP. Honestly, unless your PLL recognition is terrible, you won't shave much time off your solves by taking the time to recognize the R-OLL case just to shave a very small amount of time off your PLL recognition. If you couple it with actually knowing OLLCP algs then it's certainly worthwhile in many cases.

Anyway, RLS is pretty sweet. A lot of the algs are great and easy to learn - I'm up to 35 after a couple of days. I've already had a few sub 7s using it too, which is definitely motivating.
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I know almost all of my OLL's from both angles so if I see that I am getting an ENVY then I use another alg which avoids it. Therefore I almost never get ENVY's. This fact plus the fact that I can know what is going to come up without needing to learn any new algs is plenty useful in my opinion. Its not like I pause to check my R-OLL either, I just observe it and then process it while I am doing my OLL so that before my OLL finishes I know what is coming. I realize that R-OLL isn 't incredibly time saving, but I think many people underestimate its potential.
 
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Wow, I've been working on exactly this for the past few weeks. I learned all of Winter Variation, and I was working on the Magic Wondeful cases before I went on to generate the other alg sets. I've been calling it "LSOLL", but I'll probably call it "Rowe Last Slot" just for the hell of it. :P
 
blade740 said:
Wow, I've been working on exactly this for the past few weeks. I learned all of Winter Variation, and I was working on the Magic Wondeful cases before I went on to generate the other alg sets. I've been calling it "LSOLL", but I'll probably call it "Rowe Last Slot" just for the hell of it. :P
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lol wow so thats three people now who said they've already been generating them lmfao. And yeah I'm still not sure about the name, but LSOLL does pretty much sum it all up.
 
What I love about this is that Rowe has approached the typical cuber's age of retirement, but he's not quitting. Keep this type of behavior up, Rowe, and you will become Yoda.
 
I learnt WV/F2LL back when I averaged over 25. I still remember most of it. I remember thinking of this variation of it, but I realised the ridiculous amount of cases and didn't bother. I will look through your site picking some short cases to learn. Thanks.
 
Tim Major said:
I learnt WV/F2LL back when I averaged over 25. I still remember most of it. I remember thinking of this variation of it, but I realised the ridiculous amount of cases and didn't bother. I will look through your site picking some short cases to learn. Thanks.
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lol over 25
 
jskyler91 said:
more than a little, you can determine if you are getting a ENVY and avoid it, if you are getting all corners permuted or if you are getting two corners permuted, you can tell exactly where they will be and thus only have to recognize the alg and then your already know AUF plus perm.
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E, V and Y are good PLLs...

Trust me, I know the benefits, and I spent a while working on being able to recognise 1LLL using OLLCP+1 edge. I just don't think the overall benefit is really that great. I've been using OLLCP to some extent for over 2 years now, and I wish instead I'd spent my time practising and learning other systems, like MGLS/RLS/ZB.
 
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