Roux Colour Neutrality Theory

[StachuK1992]

You guys can think that I'm 'hating on' you all you want, but the thing is that I'm not. I'm just tired of seeing threads that can be answered, like Jules said, with a simple PM to someone. This applies to both Roux-related threads and non-Roux-related threads alike.

then why have a forum everything can be answered by a pm.

because then others can benefit from the info as well.

~sorry mini for halfway hijacking this

No. Not everything can be answered by means of PM. At least not as easily.
For example, discussion of competitions, discussions of methods (1 per method or substep needed), hardware, etc.
Pretty much the only things that can be answered by PMs are math-based and opinion-based questions, or asking for advice from a specific person.

 

[miniGOINGS]

No. Not everything can be answered by means of PM. At least not as easily.
For example, discussion of competitions, discussions of methods (1 per method or substep needed), hardware, etc.
Pretty much the only things that can be answered by PMs are math-based and opinion-based questions, or asking for advice from a specific person.

Then we should have 1 ZZ thread, 24839 Fridrich threads, 1 Roux thread, 1 Waterman thread, 1 Heise thread, 1 Petrus thread?

 

[Johannes91]

So about 1.5-2 turns save?

6.70 - 5.11 = 1.59

So yes, but only if you always solve the block optimally. But you don't, so the saving could be more.

 

[miniGOINGS]

So about 1.5-2 turns save?

6.70 - 5.11 = 1.59

So yes, but only if you always solve the block optimally. But you don't, so the saving could be more.

Depending on which way you are counting moves, STM, HTM, or QTM.

 

[Johannes91]

FTM (which is the same as HTM) as I said in my first post in this thread.

 

[miniGOINGS]

FTM (which is the same as HTM) as I said in my first post in this thread.

Oh sorry, I didn't see that. Thanks again, I think I'm done with this thread, so no more flaming posts from other members are needed.

 

[jms_gears1]

No. Not everything can be answered by means of PM. At least not as easily.
For example, discussion of competitions, discussions of methods (1 per method or substep needed), hardware, etc.
Pretty much the only things that can be answered by PMs are math-based and opinion-based questions, or asking for advice from a specific person.

Then we should have 1 ZZ thread, 24839 Fridrich threads, 1 Roux thread, 1 Waterman thread, 1 Heise thread, 1 Petrus thread?

the reason the roux thread count has increased is because roux has incredible potential and there is a lot to learn.

since not as many people use roux there arnt as many threads already posted from the time the forum opened, which means theres not as muh info. so of course we open our own threads when we need a question anwered, after using the search function, so that others that will have the same question will haveit answered.

as to why we dont just use waffles thread or one thread is because theres a lot of unrelated stuff we must sift through to find that one thread we need.

 

[StachuK1992]

No. Not everything can be answered by means of PM. At least not as easily.
For example, discussion of competitions, discussions of methods (1 per method or substep needed), hardware, etc.
Pretty much the only things that can be answered by PMs are math-based and opinion-based questions, or asking for advice from a specific person.

Then we should have 1 ZZ thread, 24839 Fridrich threads, 1 Roux thread, 1 Waterman thread, 1 Heise thread, 1 Petrus thread?

no.
Like 5 ZZ
50 CFOP
5 Roux
3 Waterman
10 Heise
15 Petrus.

there have been more add-ons to methods like CFOP and Petrus, and thus new threads are needed.
If you were to actually think of a way to advance the method, then go for making a new thread.

 

[jms_gears1]

FTM (which is the same as HTM) as I said in my first post in this thread.

Oh sorry, I didn't see that. Thanks again, I think I'm done with this thread, so no more flaming posts from other members are needed.

lol sorry didnt see the post before i wrote my novel :fp

 

[waffle=ijm]

No. Not everything can be answered by means of PM. At least not as easily.
For example, discussion of competitions, discussions of methods (1 per method or substep needed), hardware, etc.
Pretty much the only things that can be answered by PMs are math-based and opinion-based questions, or asking for advice from a specific person.

Then we should have 1 ZZ thread, 24839 Fridrich threads, 1 Roux thread, 1 Waterman thread, 1 Heise thread, 1 Petrus thread?

the reason the roux thread count has increased is because roux has incredible potential and there is a lot to learn.

since not as many people use roux there arnt as many threads already posted from the time the forum opened, which means theres not as muh info. so of course we open our own threads when we need a question anwered, after using the search function, so that others that will have the same question will haveit answered.

as to why we dont just use waffles thread or one thread is because theres a lot of unrelated stuff we must sift through to find that one thread we need.

don't worry. I'm going through each individual post tonight and find useful posts and collect them for easy access

 

[jms_gears1]

don't worry. I'm going through each individual post tonight and find useful posts and collect them for easy access

cool thanks

 

[miniGOINGS]

FTM (which is the same as HTM) as I said in my first post in this thread.

Oh sorry, I didn't see that. Thanks again, I think I'm done with this thread, so no more flaming posts from other members are needed.

lol sorry didnt see the post before i wrote my novel :fp

Haha, Don't worry, I enjoyed reading it, and it's true. We make Roux threads because the questions haven't been asked before that we know of.

there have been more add-ons to methods like CFOP and Petrus, and thus new threads are needed.
If you were to actually think of a way to advance the method, then go for making a new thread.

Maybe we should have a sub-forum for each "main" method. That way if you needed help with _______ method, you could just go to the _______ sub-forum and look for threads

 

[piemaster]

Hey! waffle's how to be sub 20 is up!

 

[miniGOINGS]

Hey! waffle's how to be sub 20 is up!

So I saw, I think I'll start doing what it says.

EDIT: at using my sig but I capatilized Roux, didn't say method, and put the exact time as well as italicized it.

 

[bwatkins]

No. Not everything can be answered by means of PM. At least not as easily.
For example, discussion of competitions, discussions of methods (1 per method or substep needed), hardware, etc.
Pretty much the only things that can be answered by PMs are math-based and opinion-based questions, or asking for advice from a specific person.

Then we should have 1 ZZ thread, 24839 Fridrich threads, 1 Roux thread, 1 Waterman thread, 1 Heise thread, 1 Petrus thread?

no.
Like 5 ZZ
50 CFOP
5 Roux
3 Waterman
10 Heise
15 Petrus.

there have been more add-ons to methods like CFOP and Petrus, and thus new threads are needed.
If you were to actually think of a way to advance the method, then go for making a new thread.

Just let him have his thread...it really in the long run is not hurting anybody. What if you did wonder about color neutrality for Roux ? It would be highly inefficient to search through all of nearly 500 posts on waffles thread. I never though about this before, but it's an interesting topic, if it was in Waffles, i never would have read it, so im glad its here...in the end i dont think it's THAT big of a deal. It is nice to have a collection of ROUX DISCUSSION in one place, but its also nice, regardless of solving type, to have a large collection of CUBE RELATED MATERIAL all in one place, and that place is here on the FORUM! So let's not be so particular shall we...

 

[miniGOINGS]

So do you support the sub-forum idea, bwatkins?

 

[StachuK1992]

No. Not everything can be answered by means of PM. At least not as easily.
For example, discussion of competitions, discussions of methods (1 per method or substep needed), hardware, etc.
Pretty much the only things that can be answered by PMs are math-based and opinion-based questions, or asking for advice from a specific person.

Then we should have 1 ZZ thread, 24839 Fridrich threads, 1 Roux thread, 1 Waterman thread, 1 Heise thread, 1 Petrus thread?

no.
Like 5 ZZ
50 CFOP
5 Roux
3 Waterman
10 Heise
15 Petrus.

there have been more add-ons to methods like CFOP and Petrus, and thus new threads are needed.
If you were to actually think of a way to advance the method, then go for making a new thread.

Just let him have his thread...it really in the long run is not hurting anybody. What if you did wonder about color neutrality for Roux ? It would be highly inefficient to search through all of nearly 500 posts on waffles thread. I never though about this before, but it's an interesting topic, if it was in Waffles, i never would have read it, so im glad its here...in the end i dont think it's THAT big of a deal. It is nice to have a collection of ROUX DISCUSSION in one place, but its also nice, regardless of solving type, to have a large collection of CUBE RELATED MATERIAL all in one place, and that place is here on the FORUM! So let's not be so particular shall we...

because of all of this, I've decided to do a major update on the wiki.
It will be done probably by the end of the day.

It will include the folowwing:
-all tutorial links I can manage to find
-all one-step solves I can find
-EO algs
-EP algs (for 4b, and 4c separately at first, then eventually at once) -this will take a while
-a compilation of CMLL algs, and how I'd personally suggest recognizing them
-waffles 'how to get sub-20' post fragment.

Anything else needed? Besides block tips.

Also, making a Roux forum site. Be ready.

[/end 'hating' on mini. for now, anyway ]

 

[miniGOINGS]

Also, making a Roux forum site. Be ready.

[/end 'hating' on mini. for now, anyway ]

Yay for a forum site!

And I know that you're not hating on me personally. Can we be buds?

 

[bwatkins]

Does it make sense to have 1 thread for Fridrich? Does it makes sense to have 1 thread for Petrus? Does it make sense to have 1 thread each for Waterman and Heiss? I think the clear answer is YES!!!...it would be wonderful to have a 5 thread forum, i think it would be totally applicable and convenient to use! (maybe some sarcasm implied). Why should be single out Roux to have a single thread...it's just as deserving as any of the other methods. It's awesome to use the search function and go directly to the SPECIFIC SUB TOPIC you are looking for...not a giant compilation of topic intertwined together, it just makes more user-friendly sense.

By the way i am not a Roux user...so i'm not just preaching because MY METHOD IS AWESOME...it just seems a little unpractical to use only 1.

 

[StachuK1992]

Also, making a Roux forum site. Be ready.

[/end 'hating' on mini. for now, anyway ]

Yay for a forum site!

And I know that you're not hating on me personally. Can we be buds?

lol sure.
Ugh. I hope I can find a decent and free host.