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Race to sub-X on Pyraminx

oliviervlcube

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Round 5
Race to sub-4
Moyu Pyraminx M
LBL (I'm practicing L4E, but it seems like my times still don't improve with L4E ~sub 9.2)

ao12:6.21
1. 5.418 U B' L' U' B U' L U L' b u'
2. (3.667) U R U' R' U' B' L' B l' r b
3. 6.063 U R' B' U R' B' R' B r' u'
4. 7.777 R' U' L' U B L' U' L' l r' u'
5. (8.463) B R B' L' R B' U R' l r b u' //lockup
6. 6.096 L B R' U' R B' U' L l' r' b u
7. 6.077 L' R L B' U R U' L l u'
8. 6.181 R B U L' R' B' L B' l b' u'
9. 6.224 U' R' U' L' R' U' B L' l' r b u
10. 6.045 R U' L' R' B' L' U' R' l b' u'
11. 7.260 L' R' U L' B' L' R L r //lockup
12. 5.144 L U' B R U R' B' U' l' r b' u

I don't like lock-ups lol
 

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Round 5
João Santos
Race to Sub 6 (0/3)
Cube: Moyu Jinzita
Method: LBL + L4E Skills
Average: 6.16

Times:

7.11, 6.39, 6.96, (8.89), 7.72, 5.50, 5.63, 5.37, 5.07, 6.38, (3.72), 5.41 = 6.16

Comments:

Nuuuh! My 4-week-success streak felt. It's being kind of hard to get sub 6. Anyone has good tips? Or should I Just switch to L4E? My ao100 is being always sub 6.4, 6.3. I really need to be at least sub 6 at my next competition in March. Also, for the L4Eers, How long did it take to you to have better times with L4E than with LBL?
 

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Round 5
João Santos
Race to Sub 6 (0/3)
Cube: Moyu Jinzita
Method: LBL + L4E Skills
Average: 6.16

Times:

7.11, 6.39, 6.96, (8.89), 7.72, 5.50, 5.63, 5.37, 5.07, 6.38, (3.72), 5.41 = 6.16

Comments:

Nuuuh! My 4-week-success streak felt. It's being kind of hard to get sub 6. Anyone has good tips? Or should I Just switch to L4E? My ao100 is being always sub 6.4, 6.3. I really need to be at least sub 6 at my next competition in March. Also, for the L4Eers, How long did it take to you to have better times with L4E than with LBL?
I got to the exact time times as you with LBL, from there it is so hard to get consistent sub 6 (at least for me). I switched to L4E and my times went up to 9 seconds/DNF, after around 3 weeks of practice and getting used to it I went back to getting 6 second average and then soon after 5 second, 4, 3.

EDIT: So yeah basically your times go up high but they then drop down after getting used to the method, definitely worth it, takes less than a month.
 

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I got to the exact time times as you with LBL, from there it is so hard to get consistent sub 6 (at least for me). I switched to L4E and my times went up to 9 seconds/DNF, after around 3 weeks of practice and getting used to it I went back to getting 6 second average and then soon after 5 second, 4, 3.

EDIT: So yeah basically your times go up high but they then drop down after getting used to the method, definitely worth it, takes less than a month.
How did you practice? First make the "V" and solve the rest intuitively? I'm practicing, but my times are ~9.2
And yes, it's very difficult to be consistent with LBL
 

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How did you practice? First make the "V" and solve the rest intuitively? I'm practicing, but my times are ~9.2
And yes, it's very difficult to be consistent with LBL
The V is pretty simple if you are good at making LBL layers which is why it is good to learn and get fast at LBL first, the rest I did intuitively with some trial and error using sledgehammers and other three edge cycle moves. Eventually you know every L4E case, took me about 2 weeks to go from avg 6 LBL to avg 10 L4E to avg 6 L4E. Once you have recognition down you can get a 4.5 - 5.5 avg pretty easily, from there look ahead/one looking is the key. If you are having trouble with L4E cases I recommend this site: https://sites.google.com/site/devastatingspeed/pyraminx/l4e.
 

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@Carl La Hood can you explain your method? I use both the normal one and my variant, and am quite curious about yours :D
Im still working on it and haven't done much on it over past week because I have been learning CLL on 2x2. My method involves some weird shapes and the allowance of flipped edges in the V and some stuff. Still working on the method and algs for it but I will update you when it is done or at an understandable point :)

P.S: it will involve L5E stuff :D.

EDIT: I have only used it for one solve in competition because I knew the case, got 3.19 seconds on that solve.
 

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R5
Race to sub4
Moyu
L4E, LBL, Keyhole, plus some random top first stuff

Generated By csTimer on 2017-1-31
avg of 12: 5.04

Time List:
1. 5.36 U B' L' U' B U' L U L' b u'
2. 5.77 U R U' R' U' B' L' B l' r b
3. 5.21 U R' B' U R' B' R' B r' u'
4. 5.57 R' U' L' U B L' U' L' l r' u'
5. (5.84) B R B' L' R B' U R' l r b u'
6. 5.26 L B R' U' R B' U' L l' r' b u
7. (3.15) L' R L B' U R U' L l u'
8. 4.65 R B U L' R' B' L B' l b' u'
9. 5.30 U' R' U' L' R' U' B L' l' r b u
10. 5.24 R U' L' R' B' L' U' R' l b' u'
11. 3.23 L' R' U L' B' L' R L r
12. 4.80 L U' B R U R' B' U' l' r b' u

Aw, snap! :(

Still proud of this average, pure sub6 and I also did some random L5E thingy on the 3.15

Round 5
João Santos
Race to Sub 6 (0/3)
Cube: Moyu Jinzita
Method: LBL + L4E Skills
Average: 6.16

Times:

7.11, 6.39, 6.96, (8.89), 7.72, 5.50, 5.63, 5.37, 5.07, 6.38, (3.72), 5.41 = 6.16

Comments:

Nuuuh! My 4-week-success streak felt. It's being kind of hard to get sub 6. Anyone has good tips? Or should I Just switch to L4E? My ao100 is being always sub 6.4, 6.3. I really need to be at least sub 6 at my next competition in March. Also, for the L4Eers, How long did it take to you to have better times with L4E than with LBL?

For me my times dropped instantly. I used to average 7ish and now i average about 5.5
 

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Race to sub 7.5
MoYu Magnetic Pyraminx Black Plastic
1-flip, Nutella, Oka, and Keyhole methods.

ao12 6.45, yaaaaay sub7!!!
1. 7.42
2. (5.14)
3. 8.70
4. (8.96)
5. 5.95
6. 5.84
7. 5.80
8. 5.47
9. 7.11
10. 5.97
11. 5.33
12. 6.89

st dev 1.23 LOL


reaaaaaally nice avg, I didn't expect this at all. So many 5s!
 

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Round 5 Results
CornerCutter - sub-10 - 9.32[1/3]
Lewis - sub-10 - 9.31[1/3]
G2013 - sub-7.5 - 6.45[1/3]
oliviervlcube - sub-6 - 6.21
JoasSantos - sub-6 - 6.16
Asacuber- sub-4 - 5.04
CarlLaHood - sub-4 - 3.74[1/3]

Round 6 - (ends February 7)
1. U' R U' B' L B' U L l' r b' u
2. L U' B L' R B U' B' l' r' b
3. U' R U' L' R' L' B' U B' l r' b u
4. U R' U' L' U L U' R U b u'
5. L R U L' U B R U' r b' u
6. U R L B' U R' B L l u'
7. U R' U R' U' L' B' R' r' b u
8. B' R U L B' L' R' L b'
9. U L U R' B' L' R B r'
10. R' U' L' R B L B' U r b
11. U B' L' R' U L R' U' L l u
12. U' L' R' U' R L' U' L' l' r b

Great job everyone! Lots of [1/3]!

Sorry for being a little late, I was/am sick.
 

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ROUND SIX
João Santos
Cube: Moyu Jinzita
Methods: LBL, L3E, SANTOSV(My L4E variation, that I also call Stupid L4E)
Race to Sub 6 (1/3) I'm Back...
Average: 5.92

Times:
6.69, 4.67, 3.89, (3.18), 5.55, 7.03, 6.99, 5.59, 7.13, 6.77, (8.31), 4.86 = 5.92

COMMENTS:
Nice Round, planning on graduating to Sub 6 before my next competition, only 44 days from today, so, maybe 100-200 solves a day would be nice to get a sub 6, I don't think I will win this competition, but last time, I also thought that and got a third with a 7.20 average, I think a Sub 6 would make me at least second.
Congrats to the ones who graduated and see you all next week.
 

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R6
Goal: sub 5

Generated By csTimer on 2017-2-3
avg of 12: 5.09

Time List:
1. 5.22 U' R U' B' L B' U L l' r b' u
2. 6.32 L U' B L' R B U' B' l' r' b
3. 4.88 U' R U' L' R' L' B' U B' l r' b u
4. (2.72) U R' U' L' U L U' R U b u'
5. 5.94 L R U L' U B R U' r b' u
6. (7.62) U R L B' U R' B L l u'
7. 5.73 U R' U R' U' L' B' R' r' b u
8. 4.16 B' R U L B' L' R' L b'
9. 3.98 U L U R' B' L' R B r'
10. 5.48 R' U' L' R B L B' U r b
11. 5.00 U' L' R' U' R L' U' L' l' r b
12. 4.12 B2 D' U' F2 L2 D' L2 R2 B2 R2 D' L' R B L U2 R2 B R F2 U'

lolwut?
 

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Round 6
Race to sub 4
Qiyi - X Man Design Magnetic Bell pyra
Carl La Hood L4E (still unfinished cause I have been busy with school and the only spare time for learning methods im using for CLL on 2x2 lol)

3.93, 4.12, 3.16, (1.53), 3.32, 3.64, 4.87, 4.67, 4.46, 3.50, (4.93), 3.14 = 3.88

Despite the 1.53 this average was actually worse than last round because of the lack of sub 3 singles :rolleyes:.
Edit: Today marks 1 month of me joining this site and this race thread :)
(2/3)
 
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Round 6
Race to sub 4
Qiyi - X Man Design Magnetic Bell pyra
Carl La Hood L4E (still unfinished cause I have been busy with school and the only spare time for learning methods im using for CLL on 2x2 lol)

3.93, 4.12, 3.16, (1.53), 3.32, 3.64, 4.87, 4.67, 4.46, 3.50, (4.93), 3.14 = 3.88

Despite the 1.53 this average was actually worse than last round because of the lack of sub 3 singles :rolleyes:.
Edit: Today marks 1 month of me joining this site and this race thread :)
(2/3)
I am both happy for you and annoyed because you are improving so quickly, but I'll have to compete with you at nationals :) :(
 

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R6
LBL
sub-6
MoYu Magnetic M

I started very good, but at the end I lost my concentration :( A counting 8 and 7 lol

avg of 12: 5.889

1. 5.438 U' R U' B' L B' U L l' r b' u
2. 4.938 L U' B L' R B U' B' l' r' b
3. 6.687 U' R U' L' R' L' B' U B' l r' b u
4. (2.384) U R' U' L' U L U' R U b u'
5. 4.436 L R U L' U B R U' r b' u
6. 4.944 U R L B' U R' B L l u'
7. 6.199 U R' U R' U' L' B' R' r' b u
8. 5.295 B' R U L B' L' R' L b'
9. 7.040 R' U' L' R B L B' U r b
10. (8.731) U B' L' R' U L R' U' L l u
11. 5.745 U' L' R' U' R L' U' L' l' r b
12. 8.163 U L U R' B' L' R B r'
 
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