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And in hindsight...

- I should've also said to scramble with cross color on bottom. Some of you might've thought this is about a comparison of your solves against each other (what I kinda suggested with the number of options/scrambles) and against the results of others, and might've realized that for that it matters how you hold the cube when you scramble. On the other hand... the color neutral guys might've gotten annoyed.

- Obviously I couldn't participate myself, but I should've tried the scrambles myself to make sure there's nothing special about them. I only copied them from a scrambler not checking them out at all.
 
I tried for several minute, but could only remember my OLL (it was a W I am particularly fast at). After posting my poll result and reading through the replies, I saw someone mention that they had a G-perm, which suddenly made me remember that I in fact had a G-perm on the last solve. Memory is a weird thing sometimes.

EDIT: Upon further reflection, the reason I remembered only my OLL was not because I am particularly fast at it, but because the same OLL (or maybe it's reflection) had occurred PREVIOUSLY in one of the first three solves, whereas my 4 PLL cases were all different.
 
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Feanaro said:
Yeah, I got some of the cases mixed up, but then remembered the last ones. So that was a good way of conducting it by doing more than one solve.
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Right, memory interference with previous solves is another good reason, similar to but more direct than my "it's more realistic". Not sure I thought about that one before. I might have, as I came up with this experiment a while ago already, and have forgotten some of the reasoning in the meantime.
 
Unless my last layer cases particularly stand out for some reason or another, I usually have to think about it for a while before remembering. And this is only if asked to recall immediately after the fact. Give me more than a few minutes or hours, distract me with trying to calculate my average, and I probably won't remember at all (I certainly don't remember what any of my last layer cases were like at the competition last Saturday).

A few of us were talking about this at one tournament. A golfer can recall with much detail the conditions of a certain shot on a certain hole in a certain tournament, while a cuber can barely remember what OLL he had on his last solve.
 
Oh and thanks to all participants. Interesting results already. I'm particularly thrilled there's now someone who forgot the PLL but remembered the OLL. I was curious to find out whether this would happen at all.
 
I voted option 4, but I misunderstood the question. It was really option 3, remember OLL, forgot PLL. When I read the question I thought it said "Did you...", meaning to ask if I forgot the actual algorithm during the solve. I had 2 opp edge OLL and I'm still trying to remember which PLL I had.

I very often forget both OLL and PLL right after a solve, but I think I probably forget the PLL more.

Edit: G-perm.... R-perm maybe? GAH. I feel like it was fast because it was a good time. I probably forget PLL (at least temporarily) ~90% of the time. I think I remember OLL more easily because it isn't as automatic for me and I have to think about it a little more.
 
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I had a bit of a rough time remembering, but in the end I remembered a knight-move OLL and an F-perm both of which I don't really like...
 
Option 4. I knew as soon as I saw the question that I got an Ra-Perm, however the only reason that I knew the OLL was because it was a special case. If it had just been almost any other OLL position, I wouldn't have gotten it.
 
I luckily did COLL and got a PLL skip, therefore it was quite simple to remember :p Also, I happened to take a break after the first two solves, so my results may be skewed. I did vote option #4 though.
 
shelley said:
A few of us were talking about this at one tournament. A golfer can recall with much detail the conditions of a certain shot on a certain hole in a certain tournament, while a cuber can barely remember what OLL he had on his last solve.
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Absolutely. Golf is so amazing like that. I think it's because we put so much thought into every single stroke.

I can remember almost full rounds from HS matches I played, and I graduated HS in 2004. It's just how the sport is.
 
I assumed I counted for this experiment, too, and I think I'm justified.

Option 4:
CLS: R2UR'URU2'R'UR'
PLL: R'UR'U'yR'F'R2U'R'UR'FRF

I had a V-perm on solve 2 also, I think.
That CLS was also on my last two OPBs.

Also, I've been trying to keep track of my PLLs in competition by writing them next to the time (we get receipts most comps). Haven't reviewed the results, though, and some rounds I just don't bother to record them.
 
I remembered the PLL but forgot the OLL. An interesting thing about being colour neutral is that if you ask me what colour cross I used, I can almost never recall.

The problems I have with this experiment: I was extremely suspicious that it would be a memory test. Thus I paid extra attention to my cross colours, OLLs and PLLs. Unfortunately I got distracted by my terrible performance (two high 18s, a 20.03 and a 20.05) and can only recall that I used orange for the first cross, white for one of the crosses, and that I finished with a terrible G perm.
I also think that this test effects those who are colour neutral differently. My reason for this is that when you are colour neutral I believe that the colours stand out less, and patterns stand out more (unverified claim, naturally). This might in fact work in favour of being colour neutral. I'm not really sure though.

The other problem is that I find cubing to be a good time for me to sit back and do some hard thinking, and not focus on the cubing at all. I can do whole sessions and not recall a single thing from them. Thus I don't particularly see any connection to "memory" as opposed to "who was focussing more at this particular time".

EDIT: I tried reconstructing my solve, but to no avail; I can't even decide which colour cross I used, let alone reconstruct the whole F2L :p
 
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Option 4 for me.

Although I suppose my vote shouldn't really count... because I didn't know full OLL. Instead, I did partial edge control in F2L to guarantee an all edges oriented LL.

Stefan- did I do the right thing in voting Option 4?
 
Option forget OLL, remember PLL
I can remember 2 OLLs that I did during the session, but not which is which.

I can remember that it was an A perm because I did it lefty, when I usually do it righty. I think I could still remember it most of the time anyway, but I was thinking about the fact that I had done it unusually as I recorded the result.

I had been expecting something like (some property of the scramble) vs. time, so I wasn't at all thinking like Dene. Oh yeah, and these were terrible scrambles for me.

EDIT: So I managed to reconstruct my solve (after a few tries). Interestingly, I had a 6-move OLL, one which I was pretty sure I hadn't gotten during the session. Also interestingly, based on the way that the cube came up for my PLL, I did the OLL as F U R U' R' F', when I would usually do it as (U2) f R U R' U' f'. So even though I remembered my PLL based on the fact that I did it unusually, I couldn't remember the OLL which I did unusually. Strange.
 
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