Question about which is faster.

[Jorghi]

I meant slow as in heise method.

 

[5BLD]

... :fp
First time I've used that emote ever actually. And it feels good
Anyway, Heise can be fast. Uses alot of thinking yah, but it CAN be fast.
It's very very efficient too. I know because I use it myself to speedsolve and indeed FMC sometimes.

BUT it's a fewest moves method. Why bring it into a speedsolving discussion?

 

[Jorghi]

Because ZZ can be efficient too.

 

[Hershey]

Because ZZ can be efficient too.

I thought ZZ was already efficient...

 

[Jorghi]

... :fp
First time I've used that emote ever actually. And it feels good
Anyway, Heise can be fast. Uses alot of thinking yah, but it CAN be fast.
It's very very efficient too. I know because I use it myself to speedsolve and indeed FMC sometimes.

BUT it's a fewest moves method. Why bring it into a speedsolving discussion?

Which do you think is faster with the least amount of practice roux or heise? How fast do you think heise can be

 

[uberCuber]

How fast do you think heise can be

A better question that I actually want to know the answer to: How fast do you think heise can be? (as in an actual time)

 

[Xeo]

So your average is 1:18 but the breakdown of your solve is about 49 seconds? and how does 2Look OLL take half the time of 1Look PLL? This just makes me confused.

And if you do EOline, which takes a crapload of practice to do efficiently, you will already have the four edges of the last layer oriented the right way, so you will always get an OLL with four oriented edges. What would be the point of learning full OLL if you'd only encounter like 9 cases or so (I think)?

Yeah coz before warming up i will be at abt 1min15-25, but after the warmup i will be at around 49-53 secs. My 2 Look OLL has been practised till it is very efficient, but my PLL still takes time recognising

Just to clarify, I dont really know the whole ZZ method, just the EOLine and some very basic block building..

 

[5BLD]

Which do you think is faster with the least amount of practice roux or heise? How fast do you think heise can be

Roux, obviously. BUT Heise has that potential to be much much faster.

But it's a fewest moves method. Why bring it into a speedsolving discussion?

 

[Pyjam]

Cross is about 4 secs, F2L is about 30 secs, 2 look OLL is 5 secs, PLL abt 10 secs.

This is strange because with ZZ, there is no cross nor a need for 2-look OLL.
When did you start ZZ ?

 

[jonlin]

Look, If you are averaging 1min18sec, there are more things to improve than full oll.