[WR] Patrick Ponce - 4.69 3x3 single

[Gomorrite]

I think at this moment, if you take an average of his latest Avg5, Patrick Ponce is the 5th fastest 3x3 cuber in competition. It also seemed to me that until now he was the fastest cuber that people rarely talk about. A very good Avg5 by Patrick Ponce is also long overdue (he has a 7.10, 2 x 7.11, a 7.16...).

 

[turtwig]

But i don't think we will ever see a truly legit sub-2. ever.

In Drew Brad's 3.72 video, it says that the solve was 23 moves. It was so lucky that he said he wouldn't count it as a PB, but it shows that these kinds of solves, while incredibly rare, do happen, and I see no reason why the WCA would reject such a solve.

I believe Feliks's UWR TPS for a solve is 13.4, so if he wanted to get a 1.99 solve, it would have to be 1.99*13.4≈27 moves, which is higher than Drew's solve.

In Lucas's 'Fastest J-Perm' video, he says that his J-Perm was 20.63 TPS, so a 1.99 solve would only need to be 1.99*20.63≈41 moves, which coincidentally is how many moves this WR was.

Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I think that a sub-2 single might to more likely than we think. If it does happen it'll probably be quite far off in the future though.

 

[Sajwo]

In Drew Brad's 3.72 video, it says that the solve was 23 moves. It was so lucky that he said he wouldn't count it as a PB, but it shows that these kinds of solves, while incredibly rare, do happen, and I see no reason why the WCA would reject such a solve.

I believe Feliks's UWR TPS for a solve is 13.4, so if he wanted to get a 1.99 solve, it would have to be 1.99*13.4≈27 moves, which is higher than Drew's solve.

In Lucas's 'Fastest J-Perm' video, he says that his J-Perm was 20.63 TPS, so a 1.99 solve would only need to be 1.99*20.63≈41 moves, which coincidentally is how many moves this WR was.

Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I think that a sub-2 single might to more likely than we think. If it does happen it'll probably be quite far off in the future though.

Sub2 in competition is impossible, unless you have millions people competing every week.

Spoiler

Besides that I think it's also impossible at home.

 

[cuber314159]

In Drew Brad's 3.72 video, it says that the solve was 23 moves. It was so lucky that he said he wouldn't count it as a PB, but it shows that these kinds of solves, while incredibly rare, do happen, and I see no reason why the WCA would reject such a solve.

I believe Feliks's UWR TPS for a solve is 13.4, so if he wanted to get a 1.99 solve, it would have to be 1.99*13.4≈27 moves, which is higher than Drew's solve.

In Lucas's 'Fastest J-Perm' video, he says that his J-Perm was 20.63 TPS, so a 1.99 solve would only need to be 1.99*20.63≈41 moves, which coincidentally is how many moves this WR was.

Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I think that a sub-2 single might to more likely than we think. If it does happen it'll probably be quite far off in the future though.

I don't know how you could possibly do j perms like that but it may be possible but I personally don't think we will see it for a long time especially in competitions but if cubing grows it may become possible. I predict that there will be an official sub4 by the end of 2021

 

[Alex B71]

I don't know how you could possibly do j perms like that but it may be possible but I personally don't think we will see it for a long time especially in competitions but if cubing grows it may become possible. I predict that there will be an official sub4 by the end of 2021

I'm going to say we will see a sub-4 somewhere between July and October 2018. Anyone else got a prediction?

 

[Competition Cuber]

November-December 2018

 

[Hazel]

Bindedsa already knows more than half of 1LLL and gets sub-6 at home with them, proving fast recognition.... Definitely possible.

You could still lower the case count by quite a bit by using very minor edge control to make sure you never get a dot LL case

 

[jschwarz21]

A bit late to the party, but congrats to Patrick!

 

[Ordway Persyn]

Congrats to Patrick!!

 

[Luke8]

In Lucas's 'Fastest J-Perm' video, he says that his J-Perm was 20.63 TPS.

But an effieceint f2l isn't nearly as finger-trickable as a j perm.

 

[FireCuber]

Great job Patrick!!

 

[turtwig]

But an effieceint f2l isn't nearly as finger-trickable as a j perm.

I'd admit my argument was a bit weak, but I was more just pondering about the plausibility of it happening and taking some stats and numbers that I knew than making a definitive case that it'll happen. I would say that the chance of a sub-2 ever happening is okay, but it'll definitely take a very long time to happen (especially in comp), and there's definitely a good chance that, due to many reasons, it never will.

 

[Umm Roux?]

Who cares if your biggest concern is memes then you have your priorities out of order. To me it seems a lot of people only care about memes which is unbeavilable.

Oh man I sincerely apologize for not adding another generic celebratory greeting. Also when did I prioirtize anything, its not like people type everything they think, I thought(and didnt type) about how this accomplishment is cool and whatnot but I typed what I typed because I dont find it necessary to type another generic post(an in terms of post about the solve itself I dont have enough interest in cubing although thats just personal preference).

 

[Sue Doenim]

Here's my view on the world record.

B2 R2 U F2 D2 B U' R U' L F L F' L2 R D R'

x' y2 // inspection
r' (U D') R' F' (U D') // EOLine
R' U R2 // Right block square
U' R' U2 L' U L // Left block square
U' R U' R' U L U L' // Left block
U U' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R // Right block
U' R U R' U R U2' R' U2// ZBLL

ZZ is good.

 

[The Twisty Cuber]

Check out the reconstruction of his solve :

 

[Reed Merrill]

Here's my view on the world record.

B2 R2 U F2 D2 B U' R U' L F L F' L2 R D R'

x' y2 // inspection
r' (U D') R' F' (U D') // EOLine
R' U R2 // Right block square
U' R' U2 L' U L // Left block square
U' R U' R' U L U L' // Left block
U U' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R // Right block
U' R U R' U R U2' R' U2// ZBLL

ZZ is good.

I think this is a really good point. A lot of what people applaud in really great CFOP solves could easily happen in every ZZ solve (rotationless, and 1LLL). 1LLL in ZZ is of course accomplished by using ZBLL or ZZLL, but that's a lot better than learning OLLCP. Imo EOline can also usually be as move efficient as cross, but even if not, blockbuilding during F2L should more than make up for the difficulties associated with EO.

My basic argument is that ZZ is always rotationless, and although people say that EOline is really difficult, which is definitely true, it's probably much less time consuming that learning OLLCP, which is what it takes to get the 1LLL solves that advanced ZZ users get all the time.

But, I might be biased so I'm interested in hearing what other people think.

 

[Sue Doenim]

Anyone heard about his new 2.99 UWR? Here's a reconstruction.

Scramble: R B2 R' B2 L' D B R B L U' B2 U R2 L2 F2 D' L2 U2 L2
z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' // XCross
y2 R' U' R // 2nd pair
U L' U L // 3rd pair
R U' R' // 4th pair
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Wait a second . . .

z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' y2 // EOLine+Left block square
R' U' R // Right block square
U L' U L // Left block
R U' R' // Right block
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Coincidence . . ?

Spoiler

I THINK NOT!!!!!

 

[Benjamin Warry]

Anyone heard about his new 2.99 UWR? Here's a reconstruction.

Scramble: R B2 R' B2 L' D B R B L U' B2 U R2 L2 F2 D' L2 U2 L2
z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' // XCross
y2 R' U' R // 2nd pair
U L' U L // 3rd pair
R U' R' // 4th pair
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Wait a second . . .

z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' y2 // EOLine+Left block square
R' U' R // Right block square
U L' U L // Left block
R U' R' // Right block
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Coincidence . . ?

Spoiler

I THINK NOT!!!!!

I Suspect he was ZZeroing. How else could he beat Feliks?

 

[Competition Cuber]

Anyone heard about his new 2.99 UWR? Here's a reconstruction.

Scramble: R B2 R' B2 L' D B R B L U' B2 U R2 L2 F2 D' L2 U2 L2
z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' // XCross
y2 R' U' R // 2nd pair
U L' U L // 3rd pair
R U' R' // 4th pair
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Wait a second . . .

z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' y2 // EOLine+Left block square
R' U' R // Right block square
U L' U L // Left block
R U' R' // Right block
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Coincidence . . ?

Spoiler

I THINK NOT!!!!!

Who was this?

EDIT: NM, I should have read the title of the thread first.

 

[DGCubes]

Anyone heard about his new 2.99 UWR? Here's a reconstruction.

Scramble: R B2 R' B2 L' D B R B L U' B2 U R2 L2 F2 D' L2 U2 L2
z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' // XCross
y2 R' U' R // 2nd pair
U L' U L // 3rd pair
R U' R' // 4th pair
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Wait a second . . .

z'
F' D' F' R U R' D' y2 // EOLine+Left block square
R' U' R // Right block square
U L' U L // Left block
R U' R' // Right block
U' R U' L' U R' U' L // ZBLL

Coincidence . . ?

Spoiler

I THINK NOT!!!!!

How do we know he doesn't use ZZ and is too embarrassed to say so?