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Oh god, not another fake 'look I found a method which is not new or fantastic and want to confuse people with it' thread (after having a lot of those by for instance Faz already).
People are already so stupid to find themselves what method people use for which puzzle, this only causes confusion. I would be surprised if I get facebook messages tomorrow with questions like: 'what do you think is better for 2x2, CLL or OrtegaZB?'

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Erik said:
Oh god, not another fake 'look I found a method which is not new or fantastic and want to confuse people with it' thread (after having a lot of those by for instance Faz already).
People are already so stupid to find themselves what method people use for which puzzle, this only causes confusion. I would be surprised if I get facebook messages tomorrow with questions like: 'what do you think is better for 2x2, CLL or OrtegaZB?'

thanks...
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Exact same thought. It was funny only the first time.
 
It was never funny. People come to this forum to learn. Atleast i do. So when fast people post something they say is new and exiting, i'm all over it. The fact that it doesn't make sense might not be so obvious for me as a relatively new cuber, as it is for you experienced (and therefore obviously smarter AND allowed to make fun of others) cubers.

Why do you make fun of people that don't know as much as you do? We ALL started out knowing nothing about the cube...

One thing is for sure: I've lost respect for a great deal of cubers that never really earned my respect in any way other than the fact that they are faster than me.
I'll make sure to be more careful before judgeing people (in a positive way) here on this forum again.
 
Meisen said:
It was never funny. People come to this forum to learn. Atleast i do. So when fast people post something they say is new and exiting, i'm all over it. The fact that it doesn't make sense might not be so obvious for me as a relatively new cuber, as it is for you experienced (and therefore obviously smarter AND allowed to make fun of others) cubers.

Why do you make fun of people that don't know as much as you do? We ALL started out knowing nothing about the cube...

One thing is for sure: I've lost respect for a great deal of cubers that never really earned my respect in any way other than the fact that they are faster than me.
I'll make sure to be more careful before judgeing people (in a positive way) here on this forum again.
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Its not really that big of a deal, If you read it you realize that:
TICT is basically a roux/CF/BLD-like method.
XG = lbl
OrtegaZB = CLL

regardless of what they say. Its just funny when ppl get flustered over it. Its all done in good fun, not as an attempt to patronize people.
 
TMOY said:
miniGOINGS said:
I would facepalm you, but you still wouldn't get it...
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Have you tried layerpalming him ?
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.. sorry it just had to be done :p
 
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Meisen said:
It was never funny. People come to this forum to learn. Atleast i do. So when fast people post something they say is new and exiting, i'm all over it. The fact that it doesn't make sense might not be so obvious for me as a relatively new cuber, as it is for you experienced (and therefore obviously smarter AND allowed to make fun of others) cubers.

Why do you make fun of people that don't know as much as you do? We ALL started out knowing nothing about the cube...
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For me, threads like this are not really about being mean, but about having fun and at the same time encouraging people to follow the right path and think for themselves. If someone is faster at cubing or more popular, it does not mean you should listen to everything they say! Even if you're new to something, you should always think for yourself when you hear advice, because even well-meaning advice may not even apply to you. I think this is one of the things that separates people who don't get anywhere in cubing from people who do, and I wish more people would do it

Basically, if you're wondering what method/cube/lube/algs to use, you're not going to get anywhere by just asking someone and blindly following their instructions. At the very least, ask a few people and see what the general consensus seems to be. Because of personal preferences, no two people have the same style and algs and cube, so if you want to really find out what's good for you the best idea is to simply try it out yourself. Use a method because it gives YOU better times, not because someone said you should use it... use a cube because YOU like the feel... and so on. And it's the same thing on the forum, many people will give answers that are obviously false (to them) to mess with the people who memorize their advice and to give a joke to the people who treat it as an opinion. But I assure you, we're not trying to be malevolent.
 
Meisen said:
It was never funny. People come to this forum to learn. Atleast i do. So when fast people post something they say is new and exiting, i'm all over it. The fact that it doesn't make sense might not be so obvious for me as a relatively new cuber, as it is for you experienced (and therefore obviously smarter AND allowed to make fun of others) cubers.
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I have a question: Why are you so desperate to see the latest and greatest new method? Anyone that has spent some time reading around the threads here should know that new stuff pops up all the time, and 99% of the time it disappears and is forgotten about. I suggest you stop worrying so much about the best new things, and focus on what is currently working for you.
 
Dene said:
Meisen said:
It was never funny. People come to this forum to learn. Atleast i do. So when fast people post something they say is new and exiting, i'm all over it. The fact that it doesn't make sense might not be so obvious for me as a relatively new cuber, as it is for you experienced (and therefore obviously smarter AND allowed to make fun of others) cubers.
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I have a question: Why are you so desperate to see the latest and greatest new method? Anyone that has spent some time reading around the threads here should know that new stuff pops up all the time, and 99% of the time it disappears and is forgotten about. I suggest you stop worrying so much about the best new things, and focus on what is currently working for you.
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Did i sound desperate to you? You must lead a very tranquil life.

I'm aware that noobs posts new ideas quite frequently, and i rarely pay much attention. The difference in some recent threads is that fast cubers are promoting false info. That is mean to the people with less knowledge and understanding.

I do agree that to some extent one should think for oneself, but there is absolutely no reason for me to try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to cubing! So, if fast people says: this works for me, i tend to listen.

In my opinion the purpose of this forum is not to have fun with people that know less than yourself, but to exchange experiences and help other peoples knowledge to grow.

This purpose is not promoted by threads like this, and while your intention might not be to be malevolent, it still leaves people confused, and maybe disheartened. That in itself is not nice...
 
qqwref said:
I think the difference is pretty huge. OrtegaZB is just an improvement on Ortega. You solve a face (with the correct permutation) and then orient the last layer with the correct permutation, forcing a skip. But CLL makes a layer and then solves the last layer corners in one look - no skip anywhere. The methods are pretty much completely different.
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A face with correct permutation is a layer. Can someone make an explanation vid and send it to me? I might learn this.
 
Innocence said:
OrtegaZX? Lulwut.

You guys should've stopped talking right after Qqwref's post, as he pretty much cleared the matter up as much as can humanly be done.

Srsly.

I'm such an idiot for starting to learn COLL, OrtegaZB is obviously more optimalized for the 2x2x2.
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Godamnit, again? I keep pressing X instead of B because the Z automatically reminds me of ZX from Megaman. Lol
 
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