OrtegaZB

[Tim Major]

Ok so, me and Joey were messing about with 2x2x2 today and came up with an ortega varient where you can skip the PBL step every single time.

The method is basically the same as ortega, except with two main differences.

1) Instead of making a face like you do in ortega, you make a layer instead.

Then there is no need for PBL

2) Instead of doing OLL, you learn all the algorithms to orientate and permute the last four corners at the same time. It's believed that this number is less than 100 - I can't think of a good name for it right now but because it's a lot of algs we named the method "OrtegaZB".

That's all you need to do and this will force a skip of the PBL.

That makes it CLL, since the first layer is already done.


I think this is a joke.

norly?

 

[iasimp1997]

This is basically CLL. No, it IS CLL!!!!

 

[Edward]

Ok so, me and Joey were messing about with 2x2x2 today and came up with an ortega varient where you can skip the PBL step every single time.

The method is basically the same as ortega, except with two main differences.

1) Instead of making a face like you do in ortega, you make a layer instead.

Then there is no need for PBL

2) Instead of doing OLL, you learn all the algorithms to orientate and permute the last four corners at the same time. It's believed that this number is less than 100 - I can't think of a good name for it right now but because it's a lot of algs we named the method "OrtegaZB".

That's all you need to do and this will force a skip of the PBL.

That makes it CLL, since the first layer is already done.


I think this is a joke.

norly?

Yeah.
I just realized I was late to the partay :fp.

 

[Tim Major]

This is basically CLL. No, it's ALL CLL.

LOLOL

I think it's about time this thread got closed. Sorry, but... oh man.....:fp

 

[vrumanuk]

This is basically CLL. No, it IS CLL!!!!

NO! In CLL you solve the LL in one look. In this you get a PBL skip every time! Why can't you people see the importance of this simple, but groundbreaking method?

 

[Sa967St]

Thats the problem with this website. You can never tell if it's a joke or not, because people play along so good.

That's why this website is so awesome.

I still can't figure out if TICT is a joke or not.

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[Johan444]

Thats the problem with this website. You can never tell if it's a joke or not, because people play along so good.

It might be the ones that are "not getting" the joke that are tricking the ones that play along.

Or is it the ones facepalming at the ones who's not getting it that actually do the real tricking by making others think that they think that the ones "not getting it" are actually not getting it?

 

[miniGOINGS]

Thats the problem with this website. You can never tell if it's a joke or not, because people play along so good.

It might be the ones that are "not getting" the joke that are tricking the ones that play along.

Or is it the ones facepalming at the ones who's not getting it that actually do the real tricking by making others think that they think that the ones "not getting it" are actually not getting it?

I would facepalm you, but you still wouldn't get it...

 

[iasimp1997]

This is basically CLL. No, it IS CLL!!!!

NO! In CLL you solve the LL in one look. In this you get a PBL skip every time! Why can't you people see the importance of this simple, but groundbreaking method?

Grrrrr..... I can't tell if you're joking or not.
In Ortega you solve a FACE! NOT A LAYER!
I don't see the difference. CLL is the same thing as ZBortega.

 

[qqwref]

I think the difference is pretty huge. OrtegaZB is just an improvement on Ortega. You solve a face (with the correct permutation) and then orient the last layer with the correct permutation, forcing a skip. But CLL makes a layer and then solves the last layer corners in one look - no skip anywhere. The methods are pretty much completely different.

 

[mr. giggums]

Isn't solving the face with the correct permutation the same as solving a layer.

 

[Weston]

Isn't solving the face with the correct permutation the same as solving a layer.

whuttanoob.
No it isnt.

 

[Caedus]

OrtegaZB =/= CLL
Is it really that difficult to understand?
OrtegaZB (Based off Ortega) = Solve a face with correct permutation, orient the last layer with the correct permutation, forcing a skip.
CLL (Based off LBL) = Solve a layer, and solve the last layer in one algorithm

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

I come back about a day later and you guys are STILL arguing. Really?
Come on....OrtegaZX is like Ortega Squared.

 

[Innocence]

OrtegaZX? Lulwut.

You guys should've stopped talking right after Qqwref's post, as he pretty much cleared the matter up as much as can humanly be done.

Srsly.

I'm such an idiot for starting to learn COLL, OrtegaZB is obviously more optimalized for the 2x2x2.

 

[HaraldS]

@ben1996123
Instead of making a face make a layer start of cll then you orient and oermute the corners at the same time wooooow neeeww methodd OH YEAAAH its the same thing isn't it FACEPALM FACEPALM.

 

[HaraldS]

@ben1996123 i agree with you its the same thing.

 

[H]

AHHAHAHA cll now im gonna ask another popular guy in the forums to make a new 3x3x3 method lets call it "mcftt2flatstanollalpll" (Make Cross First Then The 2 First Layers At The Same Time And Then Orient Last Layer At Last Permute The Last Layer) Hmm im maybe gonna ask Stefan Pochmann to do it with me because then everyone would belive us cuse they are dumb -.-

 

[Toad]

AHHAHAHA cll now im gonna ask another popular guy in the forums to make a new 3x3x3 method lets call it "mcftt2flatstanollalpll" (Make Cross First Then The 2 First Layers At The Same Time And Then Orient Last Layer At Last Permute The Last Layer) Hmm im maybe gonna ask Stefan Pochmann to do it with me because then everyone would belive us cuse they are dumb -.-

No because that's just Fridrich. Silly.

 

[Aksel B]

AHHAHAHA cll now im gonna ask another popular guy in the forums to make a new 3x3x3 method lets call it "mcftt2flatstanollalpll" (Make Cross First Then The 2 First Layers At The Same Time And Then Orient Last Layer At Last Permute The Last Layer) Hmm im maybe gonna ask Stefan Pochmann to do it with me because then everyone would belive us cuse they are dumb -.-

mcftt2flatstatollalpll

I guess that N was supposed to be a T