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[MarcelP]

So today I had my 4th and 5th sub 20 Ao12. I did 100 solves before work and 75 after

Some AUF where not correct but hey, you can't have it all One solve I actually did 3 different PLL's and still had a 21.16 (solve 164). Would have been a nice 17.xx

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158. 19.67 L2 D L2 D' F2 D' L2 U F2 U2 R D' R L2 B' F2 R' F' U'
159. 21.39 B2 L2 D' R2 F2 U R2 L2 D R F' D' B2 R D2 B' D' L2 F
160. 15.85 U' B2 R2 B2 U2 F2 U F2 R2 F2 D R' B U B D L2 B' U F' R U'
161. 21.62 D U2 L2 D' R2 F2 R2 B2 L2 D' U2 L' D2 L2 B2 U' F' D L' F' L2 D
162. 20.14 D F2 L2 U L2 D L2 F2 D L2 U' F' U B' R2 U' L' F U' B' U'
163. 19.32 U B2 U2 F2 R2 F2 R2 U R2 D R' D2 B D R' D F2 U L2 D
164. 21.16 B2 F2 U2 B2 D F2 R2 D' L2 U F2 R' U2 F D2 F2 R' B' D F2 R2
165. 19.69 U L2 U' F2 R2 L2 F2 D L2 B2 U' L' B U B' R B D2 B2 L' F2
166. 27.55 D R2 B2 D F2 D' L2 D2 R2 D2 U' L' F2 D' F U' L' D2 U L2 D2
167. 20.73 U' B2 U B2 D R2 D' B2 U F2 D2 L F D R' U' F R' F' L B' L2
168. 21.99 B2 R2 B2 U R2 U L2 D' L2 B2 U' F R D' R' L D' F2 R2 U B
169. 16.16 D2 R2 U2 B2 D F2 U' R2 L2 F2 R' B D2 F U R2 U2 L' B R2 U'
170. 19.26 R2 U' R2 F2 D2 U F2 U L2 B2 L D R' B2 L2 U' F D2 R2 D2
171. 19.07 B2 U' R2 F2 D2 R2 L2 F2 D' F2 U L' U' B2 F2 U L2 B' U2 R2 D U'

[video=youtube_share;jcvlDkIQ9pc]http://youtu.be/jcvlDkIQ9pc[/video]

EDIT: Looks like my new gained speed is staying this time Jay!

 

[kcl]

Yay marcel! Sub 20 global will follow soon.

 

[mark49152]

Nice one Marcel. Looks like it while be a while longer before I catch you up

 

[sneaklyfox]

Yay marcel! Sub 20 global will follow soon.

I agree with this. And then after that you need new goal.

 

[newtonbase]

Any suggestions as to what I should concentrate on with very limited practice time? I'm very jealous of you guys who car sit and do an AO100 when you feel like it. I'm lucky if I get half an hour a day to myself and my times are not really improving. I don't think I have any particular weaknesses other than finding pieces in F2L I'm just pretty slow at everything. So what sort of practice is likely to bring the best rewards in very short sessions.

 

[kcl]

Any suggestions as to what I should concentrate on with very limited practice time? I'm very jealous of you guys who car sit and do an AO100 when you feel like it. I'm lucky if I get half an hour a day to myself and my times are not really improving. I don't think I have any particular weaknesses other than finding pieces in F2L I'm just pretty slow at everything. So what sort of practice is likely to bring the best rewards in very short sessions.

Try to improve your f2l cases. This helps both recognition and execution speed. Generate cross solved scrambles to practice solely f2l. Once you can do it faster consider generating normal cross scrambles and track your first pair. Good luck!

 

[sneaklyfox]

Any suggestions as to what I should concentrate on with very limited practice time? I'm very jealous of you guys who car sit and do an AO100 when you feel like it. I'm lucky if I get half an hour a day to myself and my times are not really improving. I don't think I have any particular weaknesses other than finding pieces in F2L I'm just pretty slow at everything. So what sort of practice is likely to bring the best rewards in very short sessions.

Focused practice is key for you. Someone with a lot of time might be able to improve solely by solving cubes mindlessly over and over again. Since you can't, try to focus on improving one thing each day for however long you have to practice. So one day you might focus on cross (maybe improving movecount, doing blind cross, etc.). Another day maybe F2L (what kclejeune suggested, and go slow without pauses). Another some PLL training. If you're aiming for improved F2L, for example, don't finish the solve after you do F2L. Go right into a new scramble. I'm not sure where you're at right now. Do you have a solve on video we can watch? Maybe we can give you more pointers.

 

[MarcelP]

Yay marcel! Sub 20 global will follow soon.

Thanks Kennan, I actually start to believe that myself. The Ao175 was still 21.59 though..

Nice one Marcel. Looks like it while be a while longer before I catch you up

Nah, the way you have been improving there is no resting for me. I have got to do my very best to stay ahead. And that is not I can keep up very much longer. Keep in mind I cube much longer than you. A year longer or so.

I agree with this. And then after that you need new goal.

LOL, lets wait and see if I can get sub 20. I think it will not go much further than that..

I'm very jealous of you guys who car sit and do an AO100 when you feel like it. I'm lucky if I get half an hour a day to myself and my times are not really improving.

It is 05:16 in the morning as I type this message. I could also be in bed to sleep. I choose to cube a bit. It is all about priorities Focus on slow solving without pauses when you practice and you will get there.

 

[MarcelP]

Toadays first 4 solves where

1. 18.41 B2 D F2 L2 U' L2 D R2 U B2 D2 F R2 U' L' U L' U B2 D R'
2. 25.30 B2 R2 U B2 D B2 D2 L2 B2 D2 U2 B' L F L2 F2 L' B2 U' B2 D2 U'
3. 19.89 D2 U' F2 R2 U R2 L2 F2 U' L2 D B' L' U' L2 F' L2 U2 R2 F L' D'
4. 17.80 U F2 L2 D' B2 U R2 U B2 F2 D' B U2 B U B2 L' U2 B F2 D2 U2

The 25.30 was green cross. The others white/yellow. I suspect I might reconsidder my CN carriere. LOL I think I have spend too much time doing timed solves (where I choose white or yellow first over any other color). I am going to do an All but NO White and NO Yellow Ao100 later today to see where I am at. If it turns out really bad I might switch back from CN to yellow/white. (Good)Times are finally mattering to me

EDIT: I did 62 solves with lunch

Mean: 22.70
Average: 22.72
Best time: 17.10
Median: 22.77
Worst time: 27.46
Standard deviation: 2.50

Best average of 5: 20.02
31-35 - 18.74 (17.45) 20.78 (26.57) 20.55

Best average of 12: 21.88
28-39 - 19.07 22.53 26.61 18.74 17.45 20.78 26.57 20.55 (27.46) 23.57 (17.10) 22.97

No white and Yellow. It is difficult to tell if I am slower CN. Because I have 22 averages all the time. Only last week most averages have been sub 22. So I might concentrate on none white/yellow for a while maybe that will set things straight

 

[MarcelP]

Scramble: R' F' D' B' D B2 R2 L' U' R' U2 R2 U' L2 U2 B2 U' R2 U' B2 U2
X-cross and PLL skip

I could not find the x-cross during inspection. I did it on white cross becasue I suspect you did white cross and got a 21.74. Should have picked the blue cross LOL.

EDIT: 21.82 on blue cross LOL

 

[sneaklyfox]

I could not find the x-cross during inspection. I did it on white cross becasue I suspect you did white cross and got a 21.74. Should have picked the blue cross LOL.

EDIT: 21.82 on blue cross LOL

I did it on white.
y x' // inspection
R D F R U' L // xcross

Hmmm... 17.26 blue cross. Actually I hate crosses that have a lot of edges already there but incorrect with respect to each other.

 

[Rocky0701]

I did it on white.
y x' // inspection
R D F R U' L // xcross

Hmmm... 17.26 blue cross. Actually I hate crosses that have a lot of edges already there but incorrect with respect to each other.

I hate those too, they end up looking easy, but take way longer.

 

[MarcelP]

I did it on white.
y x' // inspection
R D F R U' L // xcross

Hmmm... 17.26 blue cross.

Wow, nice x-cross! I could not have found that.. And I see you are still good at CN solves. Very nice. You should considder going full CN and take advantage of haveing an x-cross in each and every solve. If you look at Feliks's walkthroughs, you will see that it is possible to predict cross + 1 eevry time.

 

[kcl]

I hate those too, they end up looking easy, but take way longer.

R D' R' D R

Adjacent cross edge swap, very handy.

 

[Antonie faz fan]

HUP HOLLAND HUP! ONS LANDJE IS DE BEST!

 

[Rocky0701]

R D' R' D R

Adjacent cross edge swap, very handy.

Cool, thanks!

 

[MarcelP]

R D' R' D R

Adjacent cross edge swap, very handy.

Yeah, I place cross on top and do something like two sledge hammers which is basically the same. R U R' U' R

HUP HOLLAND HUP! ONS LANDJE IS DE BEST!

Yep, The Netherlands destroyed Spain with soccer. I did not watch the game since I am not into soccer

 

[MarcelP]

So.. yesterday I did an Ao100 after work and dinner. I did most of them on white/yellow. It was 21.4X with the first Ao12 sub 20. The rest of the solves had no sub Ao12 unfortunatly. Over the next few hours I did slow solving in front of TV. I think I did a good 300 solves over the whole day. And today my first 12 solves without warm up where for the sub 20 contest:

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Rubik's cube
14-jun-2014 9:54:49 - 10:06:30

Mean: 19.39
Average: 19.39
Best time: 15.92
Median: 19.09
Worst time: 22.81
Standard deviation: 2.04

Best average of 5: 17.75
2-6 - 16.48 (19.42) (15.92) 18.22 18.54

Best average of 12: 19.39
1-12 - 20.11 16.48 19.42 (15.92) 18.22 18.54 20.61 21.12 (22.81) 18.32 22.37 18.75

1. 20.11 L2 D2 U2 B L2 U2 R2 F' U2 B2 R2 D' R' F' U B D L2 D R2
2. 16.48 B' R2 D2 U2 B2 L2 R2 B R' U2 B2 D2 F2 L' U L' U' L' B'
3. 19.42 F L D' F' D2 R' F2 D B' R U2 L2 U2 R2 F2 L' D2 L' U2
4. 15.92 U' F' D' L' B2 D' F2 R F2 R F L2 U R2 L2 U B2 U D R2
5. 18.22 U L2 U2 F2 R2 D2 F2 R2 U F D2 R F2 L' U R' D' F2 L'
6. 18.54 D2 R2 L2 B' L' F' D F' U' B2 U2 D2 L2 B' R2 L2 B L2 D2 F'
7. 20.61 L R D2 R' B2 F2 R2 U2 B2 R U B F' D2 L' B' R' D2 U
8. 21.12 U2 F2 D2 R2 B' F' U2 F D' R U L' D' F' L' B2 D' F D
9. 22.81 B2 F' U2 F' L2 U2 R2 B D' L2 B L2 B' D' U' B' D' L D
10. 18.32 U F' B R' D2 B D2 F R F D' L' D2 R' B2 R' U2 R U2
11. 22.37 D' F D2 B D' F2 R' D F' U2 L2 U2 B2 U' R2 D2 F2 U' L2 B2
12. 18.75 D' R2 F2 L2 F2 U2 B2 D2 U' R B D U L2 F' D F2 D2

EDIT: Oh and... the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks I think, is that I can keep better track while at slight higher TPS.

 

[Rocky0701]

Marcel, I just got a 21.54 ao100 PB, I'm coming for you!

 

[MarcelP]

Marcel, I just got a 21.54 ao100 PB, I'm coming for you!

LOL, nice going there!