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Well, sounds like a challenge.. Do a timed solve and tell us
Ok sure. I will do this as soon as I relearn that parity algorithm and dust off my 4x4...
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Ok sure. I will do this as soon as I relearn that parity algorithm and dust off my 4x4...
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Yes, I have been practicing a bit
Also different set of stickers helped Watch this. One awesome alg for all big cubes.
[video=youtube_share;OGpQrUuWmWo]http://youtu.be/OGpQrUuWmWo[/video]
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A neat trick: to flip three edges, put the good edge at the right and do the above alg with a B' R' setup and R B to undo.
If you like choice, the following page is completely insane: http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/4x4x4_Parity_Algorithms
I spent a week trawling through that page trying loads of different algs and eventually chose one that is the inverse of what Marcel just posted. Both are great, and my old alg didn't work with the 3-edge flip!
My EPLL and EOLL with parity algs are in this thread: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...nd-Help-thread&p=901115&viewfull=1#post901115
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Thanks. I have a comp in two weeks. I might spend little more time on 4 X 4 to see if I actually can get a sub 2 single offcial
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Just broke ao12 PB again : 2:29.69. Under 2.5 at last!
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2:43.90 Told ya I sucked.
Next five solves Ao5: 2.28.40
(2:02.15), 2:35.24, 2:30.85, (2:54.13), 2:19.12
Either I turn very inaccurately or my 4x4 really sucks or both...
Edit: I'm not even going to bother practicing because the cube is no fun to play with.
Next five solves Ao5: 2.28.40
(2:02.15), 2:35.24, 2:30.85, (2:54.13), 2:19.12
Either I turn very inaccurately or my 4x4 really sucks or both...
Edit: I'm not even going to bother practicing because the cube is no fun to play with.
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For anyone who uses an MU Z perm on 4x4 I use this.
R' U' R2 U R U R' U' R U R U' R U' R' U2.
looks very long but being 2gen it can still be done pretty fast if you don't like M slices on 4x4.
R' U' R2 U R U R' U' R U R U' R U' R' U2.
looks very long but being 2gen it can still be done pretty fast if you don't like M slices on 4x4.
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I know I'm slower at 4x4 than people with the same 3x3 average as me. I would use this 2-gen Z perm (same as OH alg I use):
R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R' (U2)
which is the the inverse (?) of the one above.
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My targets are to be roughly 4x WR average for each event. So (roughly) sub-30 for 3x3, sub-2:00 for 4x4, and sub-8 for 2x2. I'm nearly there for 3x3 which is why I chose that target; for 2x2 and 4x4 I'm currently 5x so have some catching up to do to match my 3x3 standard.
Edit: fascinating data. I'm spot on the line for 4x4, and faster than predicted on 2x2!
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Cool! Interesting..
Congrats!
Last Ao5 that I did was over 3 minutes.. Talk abot sucking... Bleh!
But.. I am feeling more consistent on the 3 X 3:
Ao12 = 22.78
1. 23.15 U' F2 U R2 U2 B2 U' R2 U' L2 U' R U2 F2 L' U F' U2 F2 L U'
2. 23.95 R2 B2 U2 B2 D2 L2 D2 F2 U F2 U2 F' D' F2 R' U' L' U2 B' F' R U
3. 23.44 U F2 U' R2 U' L2 B2 L2 U2 R2 U F D2 U' R' B' R2 U L D' L' F'
4. 21.57 D' R2 B2 D F2 L2 B2 L2 D' R2 D2 B R B' L' B2 F2 D' R' F D'
5. 22.09 L2 B2 L2 U L2 D' B2 L2 D L2 B2 L R2 U' F' U B' U2 R F2 D U'
6. 23.63 B2 D2 U R2 D2 B2 R2 F2 U R2 D2 L' D2 F' R U2 L B' U2 B' L
7. 22.40 D R2 B2 U R2 D B2 D R2 D2 F2 R D F U' B2 F L2 B F2 R2
8. 22.62 U R2 U R2 D' L2 B2 R2 L2 U2 L2 B' U2 F2 U R B2 L F D' L D2
9. 22.95 U2 L2 D B2 D2 L2 F2 R2 U L2 U' R L F2 U' R F U2 B D' R'
10. 26.67 F2 U F2 U2 B2 L2 F2 U2 R2 D U2 L' B2 F' L2 D' R2 F2 D B2 R U2
11. 21.50 F2 D' B2 D R2 L2 U R2 B2 U' L' B2 U R L D R' L' F' U
12. 22.04 D' R2 L2 D2 R2 D' R2 U' B2 R2 U2 L' F' R U2 R' F R D2 F L2 U'
2. 23.95 R2 B2 U2 B2 D2 L2 D2 F2 U F2 U2 F' D' F2 R' U' L' U2 B' F' R U
3. 23.44 U F2 U' R2 U' L2 B2 L2 U2 R2 U F D2 U' R' B' R2 U L D' L' F'
4. 21.57 D' R2 B2 D F2 L2 B2 L2 D' R2 D2 B R B' L' B2 F2 D' R' F D'
5. 22.09 L2 B2 L2 U L2 D' B2 L2 D L2 B2 L R2 U' F' U B' U2 R F2 D U'
6. 23.63 B2 D2 U R2 D2 B2 R2 F2 U R2 D2 L' D2 F' R U2 L B' U2 B' L
7. 22.40 D R2 B2 U R2 D B2 D R2 D2 F2 R D F U' B2 F L2 B F2 R2
8. 22.62 U R2 U R2 D' L2 B2 R2 L2 U2 L2 B' U2 F2 U R B2 L F D' L D2
9. 22.95 U2 L2 D B2 D2 L2 F2 R2 U L2 U' R L F2 U' R F U2 B D' R'
10. 26.67 F2 U F2 U2 B2 L2 F2 U2 R2 D U2 L' B2 F' L2 D' R2 F2 D B2 R U2
11. 21.50 F2 D' B2 D R2 L2 U R2 B2 U' L' B2 U R L D R' L' F' U
12. 22.04 D' R2 L2 D2 R2 D' R2 U' B2 R2 U2 L' F' R U2 R' F R D2 F L2 U'
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Thats really consistent. You're improving very quickly.Cool! Interesting..
Congrats!
Last Ao5 that I did was over 3 minutes.. Talk abot sucking... Bleh!
But.. I am feeling more consistent on the 3 X 3:
Ao12 = 22.78
1. 23.15 U' F2 U R2 U2 B2 U' R2 U' L2 U' R U2 F2 L' U F' U2 F2 L U'
2. 23.95 R2 B2 U2 B2 D2 L2 D2 F2 U F2 U2 F' D' F2 R' U' L' U2 B' F' R U
3. 23.44 U F2 U' R2 U' L2 B2 L2 U2 R2 U F D2 U' R' B' R2 U L D' L' F'
4. 21.57 D' R2 B2 D F2 L2 B2 L2 D' R2 D2 B R B' L' B2 F2 D' R' F D'
5. 22.09 L2 B2 L2 U L2 D' B2 L2 D L2 B2 L R2 U' F' U B' U2 R F2 D U'
6. 23.63 B2 D2 U R2 D2 B2 R2 F2 U R2 D2 L' D2 F' R U2 L B' U2 B' L
7. 22.40 D R2 B2 U R2 D B2 D R2 D2 F2 R D F U' B2 F L2 B F2 R2
8. 22.62 U R2 U R2 D' L2 B2 R2 L2 U2 L2 B' U2 F2 U R B2 L F D' L D2
9. 22.95 U2 L2 D B2 D2 L2 F2 R2 U L2 U' R L F2 U' R F U2 B D' R'
10. 26.67 F2 U F2 U2 B2 L2 F2 U2 R2 D U2 L' B2 F' L2 D' R2 F2 D B2 R U2
11. 21.50 F2 D' B2 D R2 L2 U R2 B2 U' L' B2 U R L D R' L' F' U
12. 22.04 D' R2 L2 D2 R2 D' R2 U' B2 R2 U2 L' F' R U2 R' F R D2 F L2 U'
And you're pulling away from me. I'm still at around 26-28. School is limiting my time to practice.
Though last Sunday I got a 28.xx ao100. I'm colour neutral now too.
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Color neutral is for the cool people he? LOL.. Your times will drop considerably after all color filter really has set in.. Don't worry. this video is an exceptional good Ao12 for me. My PB is just one second slower.. I have my good days and my bad days. This week I had two Ao100 the where 26.XX I was affraid that upcomming competitions is making my times worse. Somehow competition stress affect my times.. LOL.. But today I had a 24.67 Ao100 with this Ao12 in it. So I still have my mojo I guess.
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I found that not caring about individual solves really brought my average down, at least in competition.
I don't think about specific solves, but rather I just relax and think of it as solving at home.
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Yeah, I have heard about the not care thing. I just do not know how to apply it
I have good hopes for this upcomming events though.
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Yeah, I have heard about the not care thing. I just do not know how to apply it
I almost always get good when averages when I just solve; not worrying about the times or the averages.
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Yeah, I know.. But think of this. You average about 18 seconds now? Now please make an Ao12 on video right now. You will see, with me waiting and holding my breath until you upload it, that it will be a lot more stressfull
I challenge you.
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Yeah, I know.. But think of this. You average about 18 seconds now? Now please make an Ao12 on video right now. You will see, with me waiting and holding my breath until you upload it, that it will be a lot more stressfull
I was going to record my Race to Sub-20 average tonight. I'll have to now...
And I average around 19/20 ish.
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Ok, cool! I want to see that.I was going to record my Race to Sub-20 average tonight. I'll have to now...
And I average around 19/20 ish.
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Last Ao5 that I did was over 3 minutes.. Talk abot sucking... Bleh!
But.. I am feeling more consistent on the 3 X 3:
Ao12 = 22.78
[video=youtube_share;-MzqnlJHLjk]http://youtu.be/-MzqnlJHLjk[/video]1. 23.15 U' F2 U R2 U2 B2 U' R2 U' L2 U' R U2 F2 L' U F' U2 F2 L U'
2. 23.95 R2 B2 U2 B2 D2 L2 D2 F2 U F2 U2 F' D' F2 R' U' L' U2 B' F' R U
3. 23.44 U F2 U' R2 U' L2 B2 L2 U2 R2 U F D2 U' R' B' R2 U L D' L' F'
4. 21.57 D' R2 B2 D F2 L2 B2 L2 D' R2 D2 B R B' L' B2 F2 D' R' F D'
5. 22.09 L2 B2 L2 U L2 D' B2 L2 D L2 B2 L R2 U' F' U B' U2 R F2 D U'
6. 23.63 B2 D2 U R2 D2 B2 R2 F2 U R2 D2 L' D2 F' R U2 L B' U2 B' L
7. 22.40 D R2 B2 U R2 D B2 D R2 D2 F2 R D F U' B2 F L2 B F2 R2
8. 22.62 U R2 U R2 D' L2 B2 R2 L2 U2 L2 B' U2 F2 U R B2 L F D' L D2
9. 22.95 U2 L2 D B2 D2 L2 F2 R2 U L2 U' R L F2 U' R F U2 B D' R'
10. 26.67 F2 U F2 U2 B2 L2 F2 U2 R2 D U2 L' B2 F' L2 D' R2 F2 D B2 R U2
11. 21.50 F2 D' B2 D R2 L2 U R2 B2 U' L' B2 U R L D R' L' F' U
12. 22.04 D' R2 L2 D2 R2 D' R2 U' B2 R2 U2 L' F' R U2 R' F R D2 F L2 U'
Sorry... I really thought I was worse at 4x4. But I will be as I'm still not into 4x4 and not buying a SS so with more practice you'll be faster. I really want them to make cubes that don't require the mod. Nice Ao12!
