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Funny... Shuangren has been my main for a few weeks. But some days I get better times on my Weilong. But I still don't like the feel very much. But I think it's about time for me to relube both of those cubes since I got them over a month ago. The Weilong definitely needs some relube because one side is making some weird noise. And then yesterday I took out my Zhanchi to play with and it was really awesome. And then sometimes I still take out my Guhong v1 and it feels really nice and smooth. I think I just keep changing cubes depending on the day or how my fingers are feeling. Well... I'll plan to relube/tension my SR and WL tonight and resticker my Zhanchi (I kept the stock stickers on them so far)... maybe I will feel differently about them again.

On a different topic: My babies are probably coming in no more than 6 more days max. August 26th is the day for a planned C-section (for medical reason). The bad thing though is if I just go in for the C-section, it means I won't be able to set a new record or make video for cubing in labour! :( I was kinda looking forward to that part. But who knows... I could still go into labour before then.

Question. What IS the UWR time for cubing in labor?
 
Oh yes, totally. Lol Considering being in labor, anything NEAR 20 is pretty dang good.

Haha. 20 for me at the time was actually really good because I was only averaging ~25 so maybe I actually do better while in pain. I'm sure I would be able to beat it as I'm quite a bit faster than I was then... just that it looks like I won't get a chance to.
 
CPM is the biggest one, you round off the edges on the centers. Also I added a bit where you shave down just the faces of the centers a tiny bit, it helps with speed. On the corners, round off the sharp corners on the base nicely and shave down the three nibs of flashing on the bottom for smoothness. I also did the 48 PEM but that didn't really do much.
Make sure not to do any sanding on the tops of the base of the corners, my friend did that to his Guhong and it made it rattly and terrible. You really don't need to do much on the sanding.

Overall, the spring swap and CPM are most essential.
 
I have a couple of zhanchis, a fangshi (V1), a huanying and (now) a weilong. Here's my 2 cents worth:

Fanshi
Scratchy out of the box, but becomes smoother with breaking in. Smooth and consistent, without the clickiness of a Dayan cube. Cuts corners like it's going out of fashion. HORRIBLE stock stickers. Replaced with 1/2 brights, but I've not used this cube a whole lot. The plastic feels cheaper than the Zhanchi, and the build quality isn't too impressive. It struggles to hold its cuboid shape, if you hold two corners in your hand and shake, which translates to flimsiness when solving. Has a tendency for corner-twists on looser tensions.

Huanying - my least favourite. The plastic feels really cheap, and the cube feels hollow and brittle. It's noisy as hell, but cuts corners even better than the Fanshi. I get the impression that this cube was designed to cut corners, and nothing more, because so many reviews go into detail of how far a cube will cut. But we all know corner cutting isn't that important in a solve - if you're 45 degrees out, you need better turning accuracy, not a more forgiving cube! The stickers are the best thing about it. Apart from the orange, which I don't like! I can imagine this cube being hella-fast if you don't mind the fact it sounds like you're cubing in the middle of a heated Mah-Jong tournament.

Weilong - I've only had my Weilong for a few days, but I like it. It's like a slightly quieter, more developed Huanying - it's made of the same plastic, which I found a little disappointing, because it still feels cheap next to a Dayan cube. It's still a little noisy for my taste, but I've been spoilt with my Dayan cubes. The stickers are great, as with the Huanying (other than the orange!), and I like the MoYu core, it's pretty! I sometimes find I over-turn in LL algs with this cube, but that's more me than the cube. I've not had a single pop in a few hundred solves. I'd have had a few with my Zhanchi in that time. I'm pretty sure this will share my 'main' spot with my Zhanchi, once I get used to it. It's practically unpoppable, but I'm not 100% sold on the feel. I think if they made this cube out of a slightly more expensive, or slightly thicker plastic, it would be truly great.

Zhanchi - great cube out of the box. Once modded, can be quiet, smooth, and pretty much unbeatable. Feels solid and well-made, but has a tendency to pop on loose tensions. Mine has 48PEM and some rounding of the edges and corners, but not CPM, and it's a thing of beauty. 55mm of pure silky-smoothness. I sometimes get lockups in LL algs with it, maybe more than on the Weilong, but again that's me rushing.

The verdict: despite the flurry of Dayan-toppling cubes that have recently been released, I don't think any of them have a case for becoming the #1 cube out there. There will be people who love the Fangshi, and people who love the HuanYing and, I suspect, even more people who love the Weilong, but if someone came up to me in the street tomorrow and said "I'm looking to get into speedcubing, what's the best cube available", I'd still have to say the Zhanchi.

Happy to be proven wrong by the Weilong over the next few weeks... we shall see.

@Lchu - do you think the Zhanchi spring swap has made a significant difference? The only shortcoming of my favourite Zhanchi is the pops, but I've never considered swapping hardware.
 
CPM is the biggest one, you round off the edges on the centers. Also I added a bit where you shave down just the faces of the centers a tiny bit, it helps with speed. On the corners, round off the sharp corners on the base nicely and shave down the three nibs of flashing on the bottom for smoothness. I also did the 48 PEM but that didn't really do much.
Make sure not to do any sanding on the tops of the base of the corners, my friend did that to his Guhong and it made it rattly and terrible. You really don't need to do much on the sanding.

Overall, the spring swap and CPM are most essential.

Lol, CPM is the only mod I haven't done to my Zhanchi.
 
CPM is the biggest one, you round off the edges on the centers. Also I added a bit where you shave down just the faces of the centers a tiny bit, it helps with speed. On the corners, round off the sharp corners on the base nicely and shave down the three nibs of flashing on the bottom for smoothness. I also did the 48 PEM but that didn't really do much.
Make sure not to do any sanding on the tops of the base of the corners, my friend did that to his Guhong and it made it rattly and terrible. You really don't need to do much on the sanding.

Overall, the spring swap and CPM are most essential.

Ok, I think I might try CPM tonight on my Zhanchi. One more question... do you think you like your cubes tight or loose?
 
I prefer them slightly loose, but still at the 45 degree capability.
The Fangshi springs let you keep the same approximate tensions with less popping since they're softer, so you can get the screws in more and still have them springy. Basic CPM (rounding) helps cutting and smoothness some, and the flat sanding helps speed some.

The spring swap is the safest since you can switch right back, CPM you should do a bit at a time to see if you like it. The corner base can also help with smoothness, just get it round.

I'll see if I can get some pics up.
EDIT: It's not letting me upload so here:
CPM: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVba6IcKrUkOHR6WWxsUERmQU0/edit?usp=sharing
Corner: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVba6IcKrUkQXA5QkJ3N3RYQzA/edit?usp=sharing
 
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I prefer them slightly loose, but still at the 45 degree capability.
The Fangshi springs let you keep the same approximate tensions with less popping since they're softer, so you can get the screws in more and still have them springy. Basic CPM (rounding) helps cutting and smoothness some, and the flat sanding helps speed some.

The spring swap is the safest since you can switch right back, CPM you should do a bit at a time to see if you like it. The corner base can also help with smoothness, just get it round.

I'll see if I can get some pics up.
EDIT: It's not letting me upload so here:
CPM: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVba6IcKrUkOHR6WWxsUERmQU0/edit?usp=sharing
Corner: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVba6IcKrUkQXA5QkJ3N3RYQzA/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks. I ended up just lubing/tensioning my WL and SR tonight and that's all I think I'll manage. Plus... shortly after I beat my PB Ao12 with my SR... sub-14, yay! So maybe another day I will try the Zhanchi mod.
 
I prefer them slightly loose, but still at the 45 degree capability.
The Fangshi springs let you keep the same approximate tensions with less popping since they're softer, so you can get the screws in more and still have them springy. Basic CPM (rounding) helps cutting and smoothness some, and the flat sanding helps speed some.

The spring swap is the safest since you can switch right back, CPM you should do a bit at a time to see if you like it. The corner base can also help with smoothness, just get it round.

I'll see if I can get some pics up.
EDIT: It's not letting me upload so here:
CPM: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVba6IcKrUkOHR6WWxsUERmQU0/edit?usp=sharing
Corner: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVba6IcKrUkQXA5QkJ3N3RYQzA/edit?usp=sharing
You forgot to show the stalk for the CPM. :)
 
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You forgot to show the stalk for the CPM. :)

Actually I was too lazy to take the centers off the core, so I didn't do the stalks :P. Also I personally don't think it's a good idea to mess with the stock, half of a stalk fell off in my Guhong once and it made it feel slightly weird.

I forgot most people might not be willing to do the spring swap. I actually had an extra set of springs as my first core set from hknowstore had a screwed-up washer and they sent me a full replacement set.
 
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