ben1996123
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its not your pb if you didnt get the scramble yourself
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its not your pb if you didnt get the scramble yourself
BenVdd
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i'm not gonna count it as my personal record... I just meant that that solve was faster than my personal record. It was my personal best solve, didn't say it was "official" or anything.. jeez
Kattenvriendin
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There's actually a three move X-Cross on the opposite face:
// Scramble
U' B2 L2 D2 R2 L2 F2 U' F2 D' L2 B R' F2 R' D' B' F L2 F' D'
// Cross
F R2 u'
// F2L
U' L' U2 L U' L' U L
R' U2' R U' R' U' R
d L' U2 L U' L' U L
// LL
U' R U R' U' M' U R U' r'
M2 U' M2 U2 M2 U' M2
13.62s
Actually there's probably a good double X-Cross considering the FR edge ends up in place as well, but I'm no good at that.
// Scramble
U' B2 L2 D2 R2 L2 F2 U' F2 D' L2 B R' F2 R' D' B' F L2 F' D'
// Cross
F R2 u'
// F2L
U' L' U2 L U' L' U L
R' U2' R U' R' U' R
d L' U2 L U' L' U L
// LL
U' R U R' U' M' U R U' r'
M2 U' M2 U2 M2 U' M2
13.62s
Actually there's probably a good double X-Cross considering the FR edge ends up in place as well, but I'm no good at that.
ben1996123
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most people.
BenVdd
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I do wonder, if I solve a scramble i haven't solved before and it turns out to be my fastest solve. How can it not be my personal best. I just don't see the logic
ben1996123
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it wasn't your scramble. you knew it was an easy scramble and that's the only reason you did it.
BenVdd
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And that put me in an alternate universe in wich that is my personal best , but in this universe it isn't? Its the same as getting a lucky scramble.
So essentially, when you only use your own scrambles it means everyone has the same chance (not really, because not everyone uses the same scrambler, but still) to get easy scrambles. However, when people use easy scrambles posted by other they are not getting it by chance. I could look for easy scrambles posted online all day and get a dozen PBs. Really this all comes down to the issues with single times not having much value over averages. A new PB avg12 from the same scrambler you have been using for a the last while will be much more meaningful and accurate of an assessment than getting a new PB avg12 from 12 easy scrambles found on the forums.
BenVdd
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note to self : next time say "oh wow this was better than my personal best" instead of saying it is my personal best , wich technically it is. People get so butthurt over silly things. Now let's give this thread back to Marcel
sneaklyfox
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Actually, I see nothing really wrong with finding an easy scramble posted by someone else and getting a PB single with it. They are real scrambles. Just not using it in an average.
SpeedSolve
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12.786. I average 21 lol
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Kattenvriendin
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If given scrambles, no matter how lucky or not, are not vallid, then all PBs made in the race threads and such are invalid as well.
Enough with the nonsense already. If you cannot do better than "everyone", which is a standard 5 year old answer, then please go troll elsewhere.
On topic: I don't have my own topic, hopefully Marcel won't mind me stealing his for just a sec.. anyone tried my lucky scramble that I got my PB with?
R2 D2 L' U2 L2 R' F2 U2 L2 R2 D2 B2 R' D2 U' B2 D' F2 R' B2 F' U2 L2
I got 29.81 with that one at the beginning of October.
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Goosly
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^ 17.26
easy cross + first F2L, and EOLL skip, but V-perm
As for the PB discussion, just choose for yourself if you want to count it as your PB. I could give you a really easy scramble, with all 4-move F2L pairs. You would get maybe 12 sec on it, would you want that to be your PB? I hope not.
The race thread argument is invalid, we're discussing PB's set on scrambles that were posted along with the words: 'OMG TRY THIS SCRAMBLE SO EASY' (or something similar)
easy cross + first F2L, and EOLL skip, but V-perm
As for the PB discussion, just choose for yourself if you want to count it as your PB. I could give you a really easy scramble, with all 4-move F2L pairs. You would get maybe 12 sec on it, would you want that to be your PB? I hope not.
The race thread argument is invalid, we're discussing PB's set on scrambles that were posted along with the words: 'OMG TRY THIS SCRAMBLE SO EASY' (or something similar)
Kattenvriendin
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Yeah.. ok, true that. But still, if someone starts shouting that the scrambles given in a race were easy and then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon on that one and gets PBs with that scramble set given there, we couldn't count those either then?
Fun part about the lucky scrambles is that someone else may have a totally different solving method and thus not see it as lucky. Yeah ok.. three of the cross in IS lucky, and indeed it DOES show the value of the averages. I am sure Zemdegs has had a lucky 4s solve at home at some point in time *giggle*
I had a lucky one the first time I competed with two of the cross in. Audible to folks around me I said "don't f*ck this one up". LOL
Fun part about the lucky scrambles is that someone else may have a totally different solving method and thus not see it as lucky. Yeah ok.. three of the cross in IS lucky, and indeed it DOES show the value of the averages. I am sure Zemdegs has had a lucky 4s solve at home at some point in time *giggle*
I had a lucky one the first time I competed with two of the cross in. Audible to folks around me I said "don't f*ck this one up". LOL
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Yes! Indeed. And not even other methods. For example the post of 'Schmidt' taught me a new F2l Pairing. And the D2 R'D2 cross.. I am real happy with that!
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Nice Ben! I will do it on my stickerless Zhanchi tomorrow. Try if I can beat your time
Well, I tried with my Stickerless. I could not get a good time even if my life depended on it. All in the 25+ seconds.. That cube is too loose or something.. LOL I tried different cubes. And I got my fastest time on my Type C. Love that cube:
[video=youtube_share;R1Bl5kZ3WsU]http://youtu.be/R1Bl5kZ3WsU[/video]
Yes, Thomas also mentioned this once to me. It's time to start doing that. I promise I will never show a video doing it wrong
As promised.. R2 and R2'
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BenVdd
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Nice one, i need to get that R2 R2' into my skillset but it feels so awkward. And @Goosly : Obviously i don't count lucky scrambles for PB , No matter if i got it from someone else or from a generator...
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I do it in every solve now. I took only a day for it to become natural
It is actually faster.. I timed it..
Kattenvriendin
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I obviously missed something again (man I am so slow on Sundays..) the R2 R2' ?
Is that something like that "schommeltje" that I showed a few days ago on the T perm Marcel?
(for info, I do the T perm with this: R2 U R2' U' R2 U' D R2' U' R2 U R2' D' )
Is that something like that "schommeltje" that I showed a few days ago on the T perm Marcel?
(for info, I do the T perm with this: R2 U R2' U' R2 U' D R2' U' R2 U R2' D' )
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