openseas
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I want!
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- Thread starter MarcelP
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I want!
Old Tom
Regular
Thx. Those cumulative time limits are very appealing, though Charlotte is a 5 1/2 hr drive for me, would need a special reason (such as those limits!) to venture that far. Four hours is the most I've ever driven for the bridge tourneys I play in. I will hunt around for other, closer cumulative limits.
Old Tom
Regular
Those four target times seem doable! Will work towards them.
SpartanSailor
Veteran
I’d love to, but I have a feeling that’s not in the cards... (or the cubes, as the case may be)
mafergut
Legend
No way i can pull that one out. That's in the other side of the globe for me, hahaha
mark49152
Premium Member
Hey @newtonbase - how is the 4BLD coming along?
SpartanSailor
Veteran
0/2 on the MBLD this week. When I did it at the more recent comp, I attempted 3 to get the extra 10 minutes... only took 18+ minutes back then to get 1/3 (damn parity! Forgot to apply that alg). Today was definitely a mix of execution errors and memo failures. BUT... i felt like I actually had a decent memo and did 11:18 to yeild 0/2. The upside is that I wont be chasing time my next MBLD attempt. So, I’ll only use 2 cubes unless I actually get good at MBLD and feel like I can actually accomplish more successfully. But I won’t be submitting excess cubes just to get extra time.
h2f
Premium Member
If I may suggest... Push your memo and try few cubes in home - 4 or 6. After few attempts you will see that 2 cubes seem much much easier.
pglewis
Veteran
I feel like I shouldn't suggest this because you'll immediately surpass me yet again
... but you're fine on time, I'd up the ante to 3 or 4 at least, even though you haven't achieved an N/N below that yet. I got to 7 before I hit a time crunch at all.
SpartanSailor
Veteran
Fair enough... I am new to BLD solving (meaning I started back in Jan). I like to try a couple MBLD cubes just for “fun” and actually did get one success. The amount of information necessary isn’t beyond my mental capacity...but still presents a challenge. Whereas I’m all about trying to get more cubes, MBLD is not my end goal. rather, it’s more a consequence of other endeavors. I’m hoping to undertake 4BLD over throughout the Fall. Although I have a lot going on personally (returning to school to learn a new profession—full time enrolled, while ALSO full time working... husband and father (those last two are obviously the most important)). I’m not sure how much time I’ll be able to apply to learning 4BLD.
I have the concept down and notes about how to do all the different elements (corners, centers, wings). So, if getting 2-4 successful cubes happens for MBLD as a side-product, great. But, I certainly do not have the time to commit to going after a larger number. I haven’t invested any effort to using “rooms” or whatnot. Instead, I just memo straight through. For 4BLD, I may still be able to gain success with just straight memo, but if I need to learn a new “skill” along the way, it’ll have to wait until I have time to dedicate to it.
I realise you were not expected a dissertation response... just felt like sharing. I’m sure I will attempt 3 and/or 4 cubes in the not to distant future.
SpartanSailor
Veteran
I don’t think I’ll surpass you in MBLD... you have put a decent effort into letter pairs and rooms... I just take it as a sting of letters and go! My method works for me and has a LOT of room to provide improvement for 3BLD, but falls short when the memo required becomes considerably larger. There’s a trade-off... one that involves time that I don’t have to spare at present. Nevertheless... I don’t see surpassing you at all.I feel like I shouldn't suggest this because you'll immediately surpass me yet again
pglewis
Veteran
Yeah, granted, I kinda felt like I'd have more interest in mbld in the long term than 3bld so my focus has been more that direction ever since my first success... definitely an emphasis on retention more than speed.
The way I use rooms is dirt simple though, I don't specifically track any pieces flipped/twisted in place, so each location just has two spots, one for edge memo and one for corner memo. Just need to assign an order that you visit the rooms. Heck, one of my "rooms" is the sky with corners on the sun and edges on the moon, and I'll often use those for 3bld just because it tends to help me remember that elusive first pair if I associate it with a location.
SpartanSailor
Veteran
For me, remembering the FIRST pair is the hardest. Whether it’s for edges, corners or another cube. I have no false delusions of taking 3BLD to a world class or even national level. But I would like to be relatively solid at sub-2 min someday. As to MBLD.... if I can get a 2/2 in comp in 19:59 I’ll be good.
openseas
Veteran
You don't need any rooms (or loci) for 2MBLD but it will be a good practice to start using the concept. Then, you won't forget the first pairs.
Old Tom
Regular
Here's the newbie butting in. The first pair is hardest for me. Where did I start? Oh, yes, then it goes smoothly.
SpartanSailor
Veteran
Newbie or 8 months later... still the same for me!
mark49152
Premium Member
This is why I find rooms useful even for 3BLD. Visualising in a room kind of acts like a "keystone", as Noah Arthurs calls it.
h2f
Premium Member
Doing mbld also helps in 3bld. All blinds are connected. I think everyone of us struggle for a time to make a practice sessions.
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newtonbase
Premium Member
It's not happening at all. An office move meant I lost my practice space. We are getting a new canteen area soon so if that's not too busy I might get started again. Plus, I've lost my good 5x5 which hampers 5BLD.
Lid
Veteran
Started playing around with Roux 2-3 weeks ago, and got my first sub25 avg12 today: 24.26
1. 25.51 F' L2 D2 U2 B' U2 F' R2 D2 F' R2 L' F D' R' B' U2 F U' L2 D2
2. 22.39 L2 D F2 L2 B2 D F2 D L2 D' R2 F' L' R' B' L2 R U2 F U R'
3. 22.42 F' B2 R U2 B2 L2 U2 B2 R B2 U2 L' U' R B' R2 U2 R' U R
4. (45.53) L' D L2 U F2 R2 B2 L2 U L2 B2 L' U' L' F' R' U2 B2 F2 U B'
5. 21.52 L B' R' B' U2 R' D F U' R' F2 R2 U R2 L2 F2 R2 L2 D2 B2 U'
6. 25.46 R F2 D2 R' B2 D2 L F2 U2 R' F2 U R2 B' L D' B' F' U R'
7. 25.46 D' L2 F2 R2 D2 R2 U B2 D2 L' F' U B' R' B2 R2 U B2 D2 F2
8. (20.16) F U2 R2 B2 D' F2 L2 D R2 F2 U' B2 L' U F' L D L U L D'
9. 25.07 L2 B L2 R2 B2 F' D2 B' F2 U2 L' F' L2 D B R D' U B R2
10. 24.39 R D' B2 R2 D' U' B2 U' R2 U R D U B F2 R' D2 U2 L2
11. 25.77 L2 D F2 U B2 L2 F2 U' F2 D2 R D F' D B U' R' D' U2 F2
12. 24.57 L U B R L F2 D L' D L2 B2 U2 L2 D2 F L2 F' U2 F2
2. 22.39 L2 D F2 L2 B2 D F2 D L2 D' R2 F' L' R' B' L2 R U2 F U R'
3. 22.42 F' B2 R U2 B2 L2 U2 B2 R B2 U2 L' U' R B' R2 U2 R' U R
4. (45.53) L' D L2 U F2 R2 B2 L2 U L2 B2 L' U' L' F' R' U2 B2 F2 U B'
5. 21.52 L B' R' B' U2 R' D F U' R' F2 R2 U R2 L2 F2 R2 L2 D2 B2 U'
6. 25.46 R F2 D2 R' B2 D2 L F2 U2 R' F2 U R2 B' L D' B' F' U R'
7. 25.46 D' L2 F2 R2 D2 R2 U B2 D2 L' F' U B' R' B2 R2 U B2 D2 F2
8. (20.16) F U2 R2 B2 D' F2 L2 D R2 F2 U' B2 L' U F' L D L U L D'
9. 25.07 L2 B L2 R2 B2 F' D2 B' F2 U2 L' F' L2 D B R D' U B R2
10. 24.39 R D' B2 R2 D' U' B2 U' R2 U R D U B F2 R' D2 U2 L2
11. 25.77 L2 D F2 U B2 L2 F2 U' F2 D2 R D F' D B U' R' D' U2 F2
12. 24.57 L U B R L F2 D L' D L2 B2 U2 L2 D2 F L2 F' U2 F2
