Older cubers discussions

[pglewis]

Fantastic achievement by one of our fellow oldies. UK National Record for FMC single, with 20 moves! Ranked 5= in the world. Congratulations @bubbagrub

http://m.cubecomps.com/competitions/3000/events/15/rounds/1/results

Just... wow!

 

[newtonbase]

I presume that's an over 40s WR too.

 

[pglewis]

Cubecomps shows someone else getting a 20 on the same FMC scramble. I went through the regs to see what the tie-breaker is but couldn't find anything, how do they decide?

 

[Mike Hughey]

No tiebreaker - it's a tie.

For means of 3, the tiebreaker is best single. But no tiebreakers exist for same single number of moves - they just remain a tie.

I know this from having had the experience of having to deal with this at my own competitions with trophies/medals - you need a backup or two (or maybe several), especially for FMC because of this - ties are common.

 

[pglewis]

No tiebreaker - it's a tie.

For means of 3, the tiebreaker is best single. But no tiebreakers exist for same single number of moves - they just remain a tie.

I know this from having had the experience of having to deal with this at my own competitions with trophies/medals - you need a backup or two (or maybe several), especially for FMC because of this - ties are common.

That makes total sense, I was just thrown off because Cubecomps marked @bubbagrub's single as an NR but not the other one. That must just be a glitch in their algorithm.

 

[newtonbase]

That makes total sense, I was just thrown off because Cubecomps marked @bubbagrub's single as an NR but not the other one. That must just be a glitch in their algorithm.

The other 20 isn't a NR. The guy who got it already has a 19.

 

[bubbagrub]

That makes total sense, I was just thrown off because Cubecomps marked @bubbagrub's single as an NR but not the other one. That must just be a glitch in their algorithm.

Ah, no... that's just because Marcel's result was not NR -- he already has WR (19), so his 20 was not NR.

 

[Old Tom]

Ah, no... that's just because Marcel's result was not NR -- he already has WR (19), so his 20 was not NR.

A tie with the WR holder! Now that's a good tie.

 

[pglewis]

mbld today: 2/5, 44:47 (31:43 / 13:04). One was only off by two flipped edges. No major dumb procedural errors, memo held, time was good, and I didn't really start to feel the mental fatigue until late in execution. Not sure if I feel ready for six yet but I'm considering it.

Postmortem edit: cube 3 was off by two flipped edges because I memo'ed O despite looking at V. Since I was looking at the correct spot it only screwed up that next piece along with it and things got back on track. That's a rare type of error and I really should have caught it in review, should have been 3/5.

 

[openseas]

@bubbagrub / Wow, amazing, congrats!!!

FMC is in my to do list but after finishing 3BLD comms....

 

[h2f]

That makes total sense, I was just thrown off because Cubecomps marked @bubbagrub's single as an NR but not the other one. That must just be a glitch in their algorithm.

Marcel Peters is from Germany.

@bubbagrub what was your solve? Can you just describe? Niss, inverse, insertions or something?

Nevermind - got it on FB. Thanks.

Great job. It looks so simple. Was it Marcel's the same?

 

[SpartanSailor]

@SpartanSailor: Re the new competitor tutorial. I will probably skip that. As I told you all, I've been deaf (profoundly) since I was a kid. What I always do is bone up beforehand, that video will help. It has captions! The first version, the captions were in French! But I found an English version. All is good!

You did say you know a bit of sign language. That's a plus, but I may be able to lipread you also. All part of the adventure!

I do know enough sign to “get by” and will happily go over the new competitor material with you before today’s events.

The go over the judging stuff too. It will only take a few moments and 1-on-1 is better so you can ask questions easier.

We will be hitting the road in about an hour. Expect to be there around 8a, or a little earlier. See you soon, @Old Tom

 

[SpartanSailor]

I’ve been pretty busy lately, but have enjoyed keeping up with the discussion.

@pglewis great work in the MBLD area. Wow! I’m impressed at how quickly you are getting it.

@bubbagrub CONGRATS! I was watching some of that comp on live stream yesterday morning—although the didn’t livestream the FMC or BLD events.

@Old Tom see you in a couple hours—looking forward to meeting and seeing that original Rubik’s cube from the 80s!

I’ll be at Fredericksburg, VA, for their competition today. The comp is hosting all the cubes sizes... 2-7... and nothing else. Looks like a relatively small comp. Something like 73 registered competitiors. I signed up for 2-6.... the 6x6 limit is 7:00. I’ve been in the mid-to-low 6s this week, but if anything goes wrong it becomes a 8+ real easily. I’m hoping to get my 1 attempt under 7 for an official single. The cutoff is like 4:30.... not a chance. Other than that, should be a fun day.

I’ll keep y’all posted... and try to remember that picture/video... to prove it all happened. LOL

 

[Old Tom]

I do know enough sign to “get by” and will happily go over the new competitor material with you before today’s events.

The go over the judging stuff too. It will only take a few moments and 1-on-1 is better so you can ask questions easier.

We will be hitting the road in about an hour. Expect to be there around 8a, or a little earlier. See you soon, @Old Tom

I am supposed to judge the first group of 3x3, and the 6x6 also, so a quick 1 on 1 about judging will help a lot. I am solving in 4th group of 3x3. I have no quslms about judging, just need to know a few things.

 

[SpartanSailor]

I am supposed to judge the first group of 3x3, and the 6x6 also, so a quick 1 on 1 about judging will help a lot. I am solving in 4th group of 3x3. I have no quslms about judging, just need to know a few things.

Judging is easy... and yes, I’ll show you what to do. It’s the same for 6x6 as it is for 3x3.

My son is competition in the first group of 3x3 and I’m judging the 4th. Maybe I’ll end up your judge for one of your attempts!

 

[newtonbase]

Good luck to everyone competing today especially @Old Tom in your first comp.

 

[Mike Hughey]

@Old Tom congratulations on your average! I see you had one DNF - especially commendable to be able to come back from that and still get the average!

 

[pglewis]

@Old Tom congratulations on your average! I see you had one DNF - especially commendable to be able to come back from that and still get the average!

I just looked it up, too. Congrats Tom, nicely done!

 

[newtonbase]

Well done @Old Tom

 

[pglewis]

I’m impressed at how quickly you are getting it.

I'm just discovering what everyone here has been saying: it's a surprisingly small jump from 3 to 6. Beyond 6 I'll have to deal more with time management, but if the pace I have is good for retention for 3 then it's good for 6. A week and a half ago I wouldn't have believed it so readily.

I'll still probably only attempt 3 or 4 officially since that's just a couple weeks away and I'd like to stick with what I think I can hit 100% and max on points. But that's just because more cubes increases the chances of a tracing or execution mistake for me right now, not because of memo or time crunch.