SpartanSailor
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So... my failure Streak PB for 3BLD came to a resounding end! Nice UNtimed success, just now. But for now, just need to build up the confidence, so I’m pleased.
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Jason Green
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Down here we don't get to make decisions before something fills up. One comp (I think 80 competitor but maybe it was only 50) filled up in under 2 minutes! I usually sit on my phone refreshing the page until registration opens.
openseas
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Yeah, just missed Houston comp registration. I was flying, unfortunately, the registration opened when I was in the air. When I landed, already full.
openseas
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Purchased the flight ticket as well. Looking forward to seeing you!
h2f
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Maskow told me he uses Roman rooms in single solves. The room is a place where he solves. I was surprised. He said that his accuracy after this trick grown to over 90%.
mark49152
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I do the same. One room per solve. It helps me recall more easily if I memo my images in a location. For a session of 20x 3BLD I will work through my first 20 MBLD rooms in order.
h2f
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I've thought fast solvers use them only in big blindes and mbld. For example noone of my fast friends uses rooms in a single solve.
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SpartanSailor
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Today has definitely started out well! First I wake up to notification that my office is closed due to severe weather/wind—start the weekend off early, right?!
Decided to do some practice... had several good rounds of 3x3. Then thought I’d do my 3BLD for the weekly comp. only got one, but it was 4:56.94!! My previous PB was 6:44.xx! Now THAT felt good. The others were DNFs around 7 min. So... I feel good about my time right now.
The first DNF... I’m not sure what happened. I think I picked up the cube and somehow changed my orientation and so was all messed up from the beginning.
The second DNF was an execution error. I still use OP/OP and failed to undo a set up for my parity after edges which left the top and bottom Center’s flipped... nailed the corners though. All the same, I was pretty stoked to get a success. It’s been a few weeks since I had one in the weekly comp.
Decided to do some practice... had several good rounds of 3x3. Then thought I’d do my 3BLD for the weekly comp. only got one, but it was 4:56.94!! My previous PB was 6:44.xx! Now THAT felt good. The others were DNFs around 7 min. So... I feel good about my time right now.
The first DNF... I’m not sure what happened. I think I picked up the cube and somehow changed my orientation and so was all messed up from the beginning.
The second DNF was an execution error. I still use OP/OP and failed to undo a set up for my parity after edges which left the top and bottom Center’s flipped... nailed the corners though. All the same, I was pretty stoked to get a success. It’s been a few weeks since I had one in the weekly comp.
SpartanSailor
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We decided to drive. See you there!
openseas
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Almost every top blders (who's official singles are 20 or below) use audio-edges/image-corners not rooms. They are moving toward both audio, proven to be faster but need more practice.
Once I asked Jeff how you can memo in 6~7s both corners and edges: he traces corners just like reading alphabets and then makes images while tracing & audio-ing edges (audio - tracing happening at the same time). Honestly, I don't understand how that can happen.
h2f
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Mee too. Maskow said he uses place where he solves as a Roman room. It slows him down by 0.5 second. I think thats intresting.
kbrune
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I don't understand how this is possible! I can't even just LOOK at every target in 7 seconds let alone try to register the info im looking at lol
I mean sometimes it takes me 1.5 seconds to find my orientation.
These pro BLDers can beat me in regular 3x3 event by using their BLD method.. it's crazy!
One Wheel
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I can understand how that would work, but it would be crazy difficult. Audio and visual use different parts of the brain, so it's parallel processing. He's most likely seeing the letters to make the images, hearing them for the audio.
kbrune
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I've seen you guys list your memo/execution splits. Ive never even attempted to figure that out.
Do you guys just glance at the time during attempts and make a mental note? Or do you use a stop watch with a lap feature?
Have any of you kept track of splits even deeper? As in corner vs edge memo time and execution?
@mark49152 @newtonbase @openseas @Jason Green @pglewis @h2f @Mike Hughey
can't remember who else does bld
Do you guys just glance at the time during attempts and make a mental note? Or do you use a stop watch with a lap feature?
Have any of you kept track of splits even deeper? As in corner vs edge memo time and execution?
@mark49152 @newtonbase @openseas @Jason Green @pglewis @h2f @Mike Hughey
can't remember who else does bld
openseas
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If you use cstimer, there is an option called "multi phase". For BLD, people usually set as two: first hit start the timer, when you finish memo, hit the keyboard, it is just like "lap time", when you finish, the last hit. Then, you'll see two times recorded. First for memo, the 2nd for execution, add them up, overall BLD time.
For corner vs edge memo split, I usually peep the time right after the corner memo.
newtonbase
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It's crazy how he can do both stages simultaneously. His images must be very well practiced. Full audio is certainly possible. I do it for 4BLD centres but I have to review too much to be quick.
I've never been able to remember to hit the button after memo on 3BLD and end up having to double press at the end of the solve. For 4BLD I time on my tablet app and my phone stopwatch at the same time and stop the phone after memo if I remember.
pglewis
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I haven't been timing 3bld much for a couple weeks but when I do it's always with splits right now (csTimer). I know my execution is easily sub 2:00 if I've practiced so i know sub 3:00 memo is my primary target to get comfortably under 5 mins.
Nice! Pretty much the same thing with my PB, it was a bolt out of the blue... not particularly easy but things just managed to go smoothly for some reason. You've done it once now so you know it's within your grasp.
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kbrune
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@openseas
I was thinking about what you said the pros do for memo. speed through corners and while doing audio for edges they simultaneously come up with images for the corner pairs? At least that's how I understood it.
Wouldn't it be the exact same process if they just went full audio anyway. Only they would just be avoiding the extra processing power of coming up with images? Seems to me that 100% would be less complicated and easier to memo?
it's a confusing concept to me!
I was thinking about what you said the pros do for memo. speed through corners and while doing audio for edges they simultaneously come up with images for the corner pairs? At least that's how I understood it.
Wouldn't it be the exact same process if they just went full audio anyway. Only they would just be avoiding the extra processing power of coming up with images? Seems to me that 100% would be less complicated and easier to memo?
it's a confusing concept to me!
mark49152
Premium Member
I don't get why using rooms for 3BLD would be slower. If you're memoing images anyway, why would it be slower to memo them in a particular place rather than in an arbitrary place?
Some fast solvers have told me they don't really form images at all, they just memo as a sentence because it's faster. I agree with that. Forming images does take time. When I do corners-only solves I use sentences and it is both faster and easier; but in a full 3BLD I can't retain a sentence for long enough unless I turn some or all of it into images.
Some fast solvers have told me they don't really form images at all, they just memo as a sentence because it's faster. I agree with that. Forming images does take time. When I do corners-only solves I use sentences and it is both faster and easier; but in a full 3BLD I can't retain a sentence for long enough unless I turn some or all of it into images.
