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Have you done any more 20 cube attempts over Christmas? You need to keep up with the UK kids!
No. Last attempt I did was at the start of this month. 17/20 in 1:02. Memo was way faster than usual even with an extra review and I was quite pleased despite 3 mistakes. I didn't get round to posting video. I haven't practised any multi since then. The UK kids get to practise half the day while their parents cook and clean up for them and I can't compete with that :)
 
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The UK kids get to practise half the day while their parents cook and clean up for them and I can't compete with that :)
Yes, it's frustrating at times wanting to practice but having to deal with real life.
I delayed my recuperative nap and had a go at 4BLD. To me it looks like a centre error has caused the rest to go awry. Edge tracing was appalling and I started without any plan as to what locations to use and I also began to memo centres first for some reason. Also forgot my U2 alg for the D face and had to make up too many comms on the fly. Overall I'm happy and am interested in 4BLD again. Might retry the scramble later if I still have the memo.
 
Hey, guys. Just got this whilst buying tickets to Cardiff, no one in my family or friend group drinks wine so i'll just leave this here for one of you guys... Maybe one of your wives or girlfriends might appreciate it. (£60 off a £100 purchase)20171229_151833[1].jpg
 
Hi guys! Has it been a long time since I last visited? Or have you all just been very productive lately? Because I had a heck of a lot of unread pages in the thread. Welcome to the new guys. This thread is, as you said, a good or bad influence, it all depends :D

I keep devoting more time lately to making videos than practising speedsolving. I just uploaded a 45min-long video of my cube collection that I assume you don't need to know much Spanish to watch, in case you have some spare time. It looks like I have more than 130 cubes in total. Should I worry?

Happy cubing and Happy New Year to you all!

 
I have not reached my goal of being sub-25 at OH (and neither other cubing goal) before year ends, but I'm still trying to improve at least a bit more.

Ao5 PB: 22.059 (was 22.489 from 5 weeks ago)
Mo100 PB: 27.500 (was 28.047 from 5 weeks ago)

9699 29-dic-2017 15:52:02 00:21.581 U F2 D R2 D2 U' F2 R2 D' B2 R2 B R L2 B' D' B' R B2 L U2
9698 29-dic-2017 15:51:13 00:29.261 F2 D2 U L2 D L2 F2 D2 L2 F2 U' R F' L' D2 F' R' D F D'
9697 29-dic-2017 15:50:26 00:19.453 R2 L2 U R2 U L2 F2 U' B2 F2 D2 L B' R2 U2 F2 D R' F' D2 U
9696 29-dic-2017 15:49:38 00:18.462 L2 D L2 U' R2 U R2 D R2 L2 D R L2 D R2 L U B' U L U'
9695 29-dic-2017 15:48:50 00:25.144 R2 D F2 R2 D' L2 D B2 F2 D' B D2 F U' B2 D F' U L' U L2 D2

9732 29-dic-2017 16:20:13 00:25.622 F2 U' B2 L2 D' L2 D' R2 U R2 D' B' F L B L D2 R' L' U R2
9731 29-dic-2017 16:19:27 00:28.198 U R2 F2 U' B2 R2 U' B2 D2 B2 U2 F' D2 L' U L2 U F R L' D' U'
9730 29-dic-2017 16:18:38 00:27.591 U L2 D' B2 U' R2 U2 B2 F2 L2 D F U' F' U2 B' R' D2 L D' U2
9729 29-dic-2017 16:17:37 00:34.294 R2 U2 R2 U2 L2 D R2 L2 D U' B' L D R' B' L D' U2 B' F' U
9728 29-dic-2017 16:16:52 00:25.141 B2 U L2 B2 R2 D' F2 U R2 D2 U2 B' R U2 R U' B2 D2 B D2 L' U'
9727 29-dic-2017 16:15:20 00:33.686 D L2 B2 R2 U2 F2 L2 U L2 U2 B2 R U' F U R2 B' U2 B' R2 L U'
9726 29-dic-2017 16:14:33 00:27.101 B2 F2 R2 U' R2 U F2 U' F2 L2 U R' U B L' D R' B2 F D2 L2 B'
9725 29-dic-2017 16:13:47 00:26.413 B2 U2 L2 F2 D B2 D R2 L2 F2 U R' D' U R2 U' B2 F' U F R L'
9724 29-dic-2017 16:12:51 00:28.982 U F2 U' R2 B2 L2 U' F2 U F2 R2 B D2 B' R' D' F' L D R2 L' U2
9723 29-dic-2017 16:12:04 00:28.270 L2 B2 U F2 D F2 D' L2 U' L2 U' R' B' R' B2 L' D2 R F R' U
9722 29-dic-2017 16:11:11 00:33.830 U F2 D2 U L2 F2 R2 B2 D F2 U' R F L F U' B2 L2 F2 L' F
9721 29-dic-2017 16:10:21 00:28.830 F2 D' U' R2 D' F2 D L2 B2 R2 F2 L B2 D' B' R B' L F' U' F'
9720 29-dic-2017 16:09:32 00:27.758 R2 U' B2 F2 U2 L2 U' L2 D' L2 U' L' R2 D' B' F L' D' R2 B2 L' U'
9719 29-dic-2017 16:08:43 00:28.822 B2 D R2 D2 R2 F2 D2 L2 D' B2 U L B R2 B2 R B2 F2 U F2 L' U'
9718 29-dic-2017 16:07:57 00:26.559 U F2 R2 F2 R2 F2 D' F2 D2 U' F' R L2 D2 F' R2 U' L U2 L U
9717 29-dic-2017 16:07:15 00:22.454 L2 D' B2 D2 B2 U R2 U' F2 R2 F' R U' B U L B' D2 B2 U'
9716 29-dic-2017 16:06:24 00:28.414 D2 B2 U B2 F2 U' L2 F2 L2 B2 U2 F R B D B2 R2 D U' F L
9715 29-dic-2017 16:05:32 00:29.487 F2 D2 B2 L2 D2 F2 D' L2 B2 F2 D' B' R B2 L2 B' U2 L' U B F
9714 29-dic-2017 16:04:43 00:23.319 U2 L2 F2 D F2 R2 U' L2 D' U' B2 R' B D' L U2 F' L B2 U2 L
9713 29-dic-2017 16:04:04 00:24.230 U2 F2 L2 U' F2 D L2 D' U' F2 U2 B' R2 F2 R' D' L' U F' L U L
9712 29-dic-2017 16:03:13 00:31.838 F2 D F2 U B2 R2 D' F2 D' R2 F2 L D' U' F D2 U L2 F2 R' F' U
9711 29-dic-2017 16:02:33 00:20.766 U B2 U' B2 D' L2 D' F2 D B2 D2 F R U2 B2 L' F2 D' U F' L' D2
9710 29-dic-2017 16:01:47 00:24.199 R2 U B2 U' L2 D B2 R2 U2 F2 R2 F L U F2 U R U' L' F' U'
9709 29-dic-2017 16:01:00 00:22.806 D R2 D' B2 F2 D2 B2 R2 U L2 D B' D R2 L' B2 D' L U2 R F'
9708 29-dic-2017 16:00:16 00:26.463 R2 L2 D L2 U' L2 F2 L2 U F2 D B R2 B D' B' L' U F2 R' L' B
9707 29-dic-2017 15:59:29 00:28.767 D' F2 D2 B2 R2 L2 D2 L2 D' R2 D F' L' B' R B' R' U2 F' R' L2
9706 29-dic-2017 15:58:37 00:31.159 F2 U2 B2 D2 F2 L2 U' F2 U2 L2 U F' D2 B D' L2 U2 L' F' R' L
9705 29-dic-2017 15:57:48 00:29.766 F2 U F2 D' R2 U B2 U R2 D R2 B' R U2 F2 U' F' D B2 L B' D'
9704 29-dic-2017 15:56:21 00:26.007 B2 F2 D2 U' L2 D F2 R2 F2 D B' L' U' F2 U' B' L' B U R'
9703 29-dic-2017 15:55:34 00:28.318 R2 B2 U R2 D' R2 U2 B2 L2 D' F R2 L U L D F L' B' L
9702 29-dic-2017 15:54:43 00:25.943 D2 R2 F2 R2 U L2 U F2 U' B2 D F U2 R' L2 B' L' B F' R D U
9701 29-dic-2017 15:53:51 00:30.606 U' R2 B2 U2 B2 F2 D' L2 U' R2 U' F D2 F R' F D' R2 D' L2 F2 D'
9700 29-dic-2017 15:53:03 00:26.702 L2 B2 R2 D L2 D F2 L2 D F2 R2 B R B' F' U2 L2 U' F' R' D' U2
9699 29-dic-2017 15:52:02 00:21.581 U F2 D R2 D2 U' F2 R2 D' B2 R2 B R L2 B' D' B' R B2 L U2
9698 29-dic-2017 15:51:13 00:29.261 F2 D2 U L2 D L2 F2 D2 L2 F2 U' R F' L' D2 F' R' D F D'
9697 29-dic-2017 15:50:26 00:19.453 R2 L2 U R2 U L2 F2 U' B2 F2 D2 L B' R2 U2 F2 D R' F' D2 U
9696 29-dic-2017 15:49:38 00:18.462 L2 D L2 U' R2 U R2 D R2 L2 D R L2 D R2 L U B' U L U'
9695 29-dic-2017 15:48:50 00:25.144 R2 D F2 R2 D' L2 D B2 F2 D' B D2 F U' B2 D F' U L' U L2 D2
9694 29-dic-2017 15:48:00 00:30.574 U' B2 U L2 D F2 R2 L2 U F2 D R' F2 U2 R' B' R' F' L2 F' D
9693 29-dic-2017 15:47:07 00:27.823 R2 L2 U' L2 D R2 D L2 U F2 L2 F L' B U' F' R B U2 L B2 D'
9692 29-dic-2017 15:46:21 00:26.983 D' R2 D R2 D2 F2 U' B2 R2 F2 U' B U F' R U2 R F' L' D
9691 29-dic-2017 15:45:38 00:25.406 U R2 B2 U' L2 D' F2 U2 L2 U2 L U2 B' D2 B2 L D R L'
9690 29-dic-2017 15:44:49 00:30.815 R2 U B2 F2 U' B2 D B2 U2 F2 U2 F' R2 B U2 R U2 L' D' R L'
9689 29-dic-2017 15:44:00 00:29.597 F2 L2 D B2 D' B2 D F2 U' B2 U' L F' R' B2 U L2 B' L' B2 R' D2
9688 29-dic-2017 15:43:12 00:20.288 L2 U B2 L2 B2 R2 D2 U L2 U R2 B' L F2 D' R2 L F' R' U R2 D
9687 29-dic-2017 15:42:02 00:22.614 F2 D2 F2 U2 F2 L2 B2 F2 D' B2 U2 B R B2 F L2 U R' F' R' D'
9686 29-dic-2017 15:41:07 00:31.990 U2 L2 U2 R2 B2 U' F2 U2 F2 L2 D' L F' R' B2 D2 B U2 L F' D
9685 29-dic-2017 15:40:24 00:22.511 D' U' F2 U' R2 L2 D' R2 B2 R2 D R' U R2 D R' F R' U2 R2 B'
9684 29-dic-2017 15:39:33 00:35.661 D F2 U F2 R2 L2 D' F2 L2 U2 R2 B' L2 U' R D' L' U2 R U' F
9683 29-dic-2017 15:38:48 00:23.975 L2 F2 U R2 U2 L2 B2 L2 B2 L2 U B' U R L' F' D2 F2 L B' D2 U2
9682 29-dic-2017 15:37:57 00:24.943 B2 U L2 F2 L2 U2 R2 F2 D B2 R L' D' B F' L' D2 F D2 R
9681 29-dic-2017 15:37:09 00:27.278 B2 L2 B2 D F2 D2 L2 B2 D B2 L2 F' R D B L' F' L2 D2 R2 U'
9680 29-dic-2017 15:36:20 00:24.606 L2 U2 B2 L2 D' R2 U2 B2 D' F2 D' L' F' R' D' U R B' L B2 D' L2
9679 29-dic-2017 15:35:26 00:28.750 F2 U B2 L2 D L2 B2 L2 D' B2 U R' D2 B' R' F D2 B' U' R2 L U'
9678 29-dic-2017 15:34:39 00:26.174 R2 B2 D2 F2 U R2 F2 L2 D2 B2 U F' R' L B R2 F2 R2 L F D2 U'
9677 29-dic-2017 15:33:59 00:21.087 D' B2 U B2 R2 D' L2 U R2 U2 R2 B' D' R2 D2 R F2 R2 D' F2 R
9676 29-dic-2017 15:33:14 00:23.215 L2 B2 L2 U B2 U2 L2 U' R2 D' F2 L F L2 U' R2 F L' D2 B F U2
9675 29-dic-2017 15:32:19 00:31.190 D2 B2 L2 D' B2 D F2 R2 D F2 D F D L2 F2 D' B2 R' F2 L2 U2
9674 29-dic-2017 15:31:25 00:27.574 R2 D' B2 R2 D' B2 F2 D2 R2 D U' L' U L2 U' L F D' L' D2 U'
9673 29-dic-2017 15:30:41 00:27.062 L2 U2 L2 B2 R2 U' L2 D R2 U' B' R U' F' D B U2 R F2 U L2
9672 29-dic-2017 15:29:55 00:26.463 L2 D2 B2 D' L2 B2 R2 U2 B2 D L2 F' L B' D F' D2 U2 L2 D' L'
9671 29-dic-2017 15:28:57 00:33.423 U B2 F2 D' L2 D F2 D B2 D2 B2 R D U2 F L' B R' F' R' D2 U2
9670 29-dic-2017 15:28:11 00:26.319 U2 L2 U B2 U' R2 U R2 B2 R' F2 L' F' U' L2 D B2 R
9669 29-dic-2017 15:27:21 00:27.229 D B2 D2 L2 F2 U' B2 F2 D' L2 F2 R F U2 L F U2 L2 U F' L' D2
9668 29-dic-2017 15:26:34 00:25.685 F2 D2 B2 L2 U B2 F2 U' B2 U R U2 B' F' U2 L D F2 U' B' L U2
9667 29-dic-2017 15:25:47 00:27.558 D2 B2 U R2 D' U' L2 D' L2 B' D' U2 R2 U2 B2 L' F' U F2 U2
9666 29-dic-2017 15:24:50 00:36.558 D2 B2 U R2 B2 U' L2 B2 D U2 R D' F R L B2 U B R' B2 D2
9665 29-dic-2017 15:24:00 00:32.221 D' U' R2 U L2 F2 D' L2 F2 R2 F' B2 D F' R' F' L2 D2 F
9664 29-dic-2017 15:23:09 00:27.391 U R2 B2 D L2 U B2 R2 D L2 D' L R2 B U L F' D B2 U' B' U2
9663 29-dic-2017 15:22:19 00:29.031 B2 R2 D' F2 U2 B2 U' R2 D' F2 U' F U2 R U' B F' L F2 U L U2
9662 29-dic-2017 10:57:02 00:41.550 U R2 D' B2 R2 U' B2 U B2 U2 L2 B' F2 U' B2 R2 F2 L2 U R' D U2
9661 29-dic-2017 10:56:05 00:31.271 R2 U' R2 B2 U B2 F2 U' F2 U2 B2 R D2 U2 F2 R' U' F R' D2 F2 D
9660 29-dic-2017 10:55:14 00:33.238 L2 U R2 F2 D F2 D2 F2 R2 L2 U R U' F D2 U' B' R U2 L' U2
9659 27-dic-2017 15:41:02 00:24.333 D' L2 U' B2 D' F2 R2 D B2 L2 U' R' D R2 B2 L' U2 F D2 U B U'
9658 27-dic-2017 15:40:16 00:22.631 F2 L2 F2 D2 L2 D2 U' L2 B2 U2 B' L' D R2 F L' D2 B' R' D F D2
9657 27-dic-2017 15:39:23 00:28.654 R2 D2 L2 D' F2 L2 U2 R2 L2 D' B2 R B2 L2 U' R D F L' B R' D'
9656 27-dic-2017 15:38:35 00:29.350 U F2 L2 D B2 D2 L2 B2 U' F2 D' F D' F' L D' F' U2 B' U R2 L
9655 27-dic-2017 15:37:49 00:22.910 B2 D B2 L2 D' B2 D R2 U L2 U' L' D U2 F' D' L B' D U'
9654 27-dic-2017 15:36:58 00:28.318 D' B2 U' L2 B2 R2 U B2 D2 L2 U' F R' D B' D U B' F2 L' B2 U'
9653 27-dic-2017 15:36:07 00:29.550 U B2 U' B2 U R2 L2 F2 L2 U B2 L' B2 L2 B' U B2 L' D2 B D
9652 27-dic-2017 15:35:15 00:33.351 U F2 L2 B2 U' F2 D2 F2 U' R2 U' B U2 L D2 R' B' U B F D2
9651 27-dic-2017 15:34:22 00:35.238 D B2 R2 D B2 U R2 D' R2 F2 U L' B2 R2 B D2 F' R2 U' R' L B'
9650 27-dic-2017 15:33:33 00:22.222 F2 R2 D' U' R2 L2 F2 R2 D L2 D F' R B' L U' F2 R B R U L
9649 27-dic-2017 15:32:43 00:28.758 U2 B2 U' B2 U R2 D B2 L2 U2 L2 F U B' L B L2 U L U L'
9648 27-dic-2017 15:31:54 00:25.727 U2 B2 F2 U L2 D F2 D' L2 D L2 B' F' U R U F R2 L2 D' U L'
9647 27-dic-2017 15:31:03 00:31.239 L2 D' R2 B2 R2 D L2 D L2 U2 F2 L B R2 B2 D2 U' F' D2 U F U
9646 27-dic-2017 15:30:06 00:34.893 D2 F2 R2 U F2 U2 R2 U' F2 L2 U' R B2 F D2 U' F' U2 B' D L2
9645 27-dic-2017 15:28:14 00:23.800 U2 L2 D' B2 D' R2 U2 B2 R2 F2 D' F L' D U' L' B D2 R' D2 B'
9644 27-dic-2017 15:27:19 00:26.463 D B2 L2 B2 F2 D R2 D2 R2 B2 R' D L U' B2 D' F2 L B' D
9643 27-dic-2017 15:26:20 00:29.350 B2 R2 B2 R2 U R2 U2 L2 D L2 B' U' R' F' R F2 D' U' B' F2 L'
9642 27-dic-2017 15:25:35 00:23.511 R2 B2 F2 U' R2 B2 U B2 L2 B2 D' R D' L' U2 B2 F' U' L' U2 B2 U'
9641 27-dic-2017 15:24:38 00:26.310 R2 B2 U2 L2 F2 D' L2 U' F2 D U' F L' B' L' U2 F' D R2 U2 R L'
9640 27-dic-2017 15:23:51 00:24.926 D2 R2 B2 U2 L2 F2 U2 R2 D B2 U L U' B2 R D B L2 F D2 R D2
9639 27-dic-2017 15:23:00 00:27.670 D' B2 F2 U L2 U' F2 L2 U2 R2 U2 B U L' U' R F R2 D' U' L2 U'
9638 27-dic-2017 15:22:15 00:28.094 U R2 U2 F2 D' R2 D' R2 D2 F2 U2 R F L U2 B F' D B U F2
9637 27-dic-2017 15:21:28 00:22.750 B2 L2 D U2 F2 R2 D' B2 L2 B' R2 B' L U2 B' F R' D' R U2
9636 27-dic-2017 15:20:40 00:27.902 U' B2 U' L2 D' B2 R2 U' B2 F2 U' F D R' B2 L' U2 L U' F' R U'
9635 27-dic-2017 15:19:47 00:22.469 R2 D R2 U R2 B2 U R2 D R2 U2 B' R2 L D U' R B2 D2 F D U'
9634 27-dic-2017 15:19:01 00:29.669 U' L2 B2 D R2 F2 L2 D2 B2 U2 B2 R B' D' L' F' D2 R2 B2 F2 R'
9633 27-dic-2017 15:18:12 00:25.655 R2 L2 U F2 D' R2 L2 D' U2 B2 F2 L' U2 B' U F2 D L' B' U2 L' U'
 
Hi guys! Has it been a long time since I last visited? Or have you all just been very productive lately? Because I had a heck of a lot of unread pages in the thread. Welcome to the new guys. This thread is, as you said, a good or bad influence, it all depends :D

I keep devoting more time lately to making videos than practising speedsolving. I just uploaded a 45min-long video of my cube collection that I assume you don't need to know much Spanish to watch, in case you have some spare time. It looks like I have more than 130 cubes in total. Should I worry?

Happy cubing and Happy New Year to you all!

Don't worry, you'll be fine (and won't get bored ever).

I wanted to add pictures of cubes to cubealot.com, I guess now I know who to ask for help :D
 
My next step is to learn Yau for the 4x4 but I hear it is best to average 2 minutes on the reduction method first.

I often disagree with the "wait until you're sub XX" advice I see out there... the best way to get good at Yau/Hoya/Whatever IMO is to practice it rather than practicing something else.

I really like that cube [GTS2M] but it keeps getting too slow/gummy. Santa was generous cubes-wise this Christmas though I have not found a better one.

Ditto, though I'm strictly stickerless so I can't speak for the black plastic version of any recent puzzles. I think it gets worse for me this time of year as the humidity drops significantly, seems like I have to add DNM-37 daily if I'm practicing a lot (The Valk seemed even worse for me about it than the GTS2). I have a magnetized Little Magic and magnetized Valk 3 on the way to try a couple others, the Little Magic is cheap enough to be a potential candidate platform for me to magnetize a bunch for mbld.

The lettering is the same, so, for now I’m going with OP edges as well. Just to learn the target locations... using T-perm (my favourite PLL, btw) means I don’t have to thing about that alg while trying to learn the target locations.

The only requirement is to have fun and if starting out with OP edges leads to fun then you're doing it right. I will toss this out for consideration though: you're already going to be absorbing the letter scheme as you learn the mechanics and I believe most people can get the M2 mechanics down in a few days/sessions of practice... well before Speffz positions even become automatic. There are really only a couple algs for some of the targets on the M slice, the rest are intuitive setups once you've done it a few times. The fact that the buffer exchange is literally just an M2 move makes it much less tedious than T-perm once you get going. It may feel less overwhelming to refer to a cheat-sheet for all the targets, to start with. After one focused session with M2 you'll probably only need it for C/I/S/W/Q. Noah's execution vid lists everything in the description:

 
@Shaky Hands I saw that Guildford is in March this year which seems quite early. How many PBs are you going to get there this year? I am in the process of learning 4x4 went from 6 minutes to 2.30 average and remembered you did a 1.56 minutes single on the 5x5 so am some way off. I can't comprehend how it's even possible. Do you use Yau? My next step is to learn Yau for the 4x4 but I hear it is best to average 2 minutes on the reduction method first.

I solve using Yau, or attempt to ;)... my 3-2-3 is still a bit off at moments. But I strongly encourage you to make the shift. The look ahead is SO much better, and you have to learn to find your cross edges... Those are things you only learn with practice, practice, practice, and reduction won't help with that. And my PB is 2:41 (with a +2, didn't finish the AUF for PLL.)
 
Brief comment: I like the Aosu GTS M.

I can't explain why. It doesn't cut as well as the Wuques I have. But there's a nice feel to it when solving, it is just nice, the turns end smoothly, and I haven't needed much more cutting than it has. I'll admit, I have to still set it up... but from 2:57 -> 2:41 so far.. and I know I can go faster... it is just learning 3-2-3 a bit better, I'm making mistakes. If I clean it up, I suspect I'll be in the 2:30 range... Which is really fast considering I'm not sub-50 2H ;). (I also don't practice 2H except on big cubes... so I have no idea how fast I really am.)
 
I often disagree with the "wait until you're sub XX" advice I see out there... the best way to get good at Yau/Hoya/Whatever IMO is to practice it rather than practicing something else.



Ditto, though I'm strictly stickerless so I can't speak for the black plastic version of any recent puzzles. I think it gets worse for me this time of year as the humidity drops significantly, seems like I have to add DNM-37 daily if I'm practicing a lot (The Valk seemed even worse for me about it than the GTS2). I have a magnetized Little Magic and magnetized Valk 3 on the way to try a couple others, the Little Magic is cheap enough to be a potential candidate platform for me to magnetize a bunch for mbld.



The only requirement is to have fun and if starting out with OP edges leads to fun then you're doing it right. I will toss this out for consideration though: you're already going to be absorbing the letter scheme as you learn the mechanics and I believe most people can get the M2 mechanics down in a few days/sessions of practice... well before Speffz positions even become automatic. There are really only a couple algs for some of the targets on the M slice, the rest are intuitive setups once you've done it a few times. The fact that the buffer exchange is literally just an M2 move makes it much less tedious than T-perm once you get going. It may feel less overwhelming to refer to a cheat-sheet for all the targets, to start with. After one focused session with M2 you'll probably only need it for C/I/S/W/Q. Noah's execution vid lists everything in the description:


To be honest... I'm already getting pretty comfortable with the target position letters... I still have to write down my targets then make a story (can't do it all in my head simultaneously yet), but I was able to do that and then with my eyes closed get all the edge targets without peaking last night (so long as the buffer piece never entered into the "story"--I still need to figure out that little bit. Sometimes it gets me, others... not so much). And yesterday was only my first day even trying to figure out what M2 and OP even meant! let alone has some success actually hitting targets.

My goal for this long upcoming weekend is to iron out the buffer thing, and be able to generate my edge story without paper and execute the edges. If I'm successful... I'll dial that in for a bit then move onto corners. I'm not in a hurry... This is absolutely for fun. Now, in the future, fun may take the form of getting super speedy ;-) But isn't that always the case? you figure it out, then you get decent then you try to go faster? LOL
 
Question: sometimes I get edges in the correct position, but incorrect orientation. Is that because I shot for the wrong target in the pair when making my memo? I’m guessing yes, but wasn’t sure.

Also, I saw a couple videos that say, “if you have flipped edges, say on the OV edge, just do it twice.” But how am I supposed to know it’s flipped? Seems like (related to my first question) that I you get the memo right and put the correct edge face in the correct target location, you should never have a flipped edge at the end.

Just stuff I’m figuring out through practice. I’ll get there.
 
Question: sometimes I get edges in the correct position, but incorrect orientation. Is that because I shot for the wrong target in the pair when making my memo? I’m guessing yes, but wasn’t sure.

Also, I saw a couple videos that say, “if you have flipped edges, say on the OV edge, just do it twice.” But how am I supposed to know it’s flipped? Seems like (related to my first question) that I you get the memo right and put the correct edge face in the correct target location, you should never have a flipped edge at the end.

Just stuff I’m figuring out through practice. I’ll get there.

Most common mistakes are tracing wrong = flipped. Instead of UB, you may have memo'd as BU.
The flipped edge case means that your scrambled piece is located in the right position but flipped in color. You can simply do twice - like, do UB algorithm first then followed by BU algorithm.

For edges, two algorithms are mostly useful from ELL case. 1) 2 flip adjacent & 2) 2 flip opposite. Most common flip cases you'll encounter. 1) 2 flip adjacent: y' M' U' M U2 M' U' M' U' M' U2 M U' M2, 2) 2 flip opposite: M' U M' U M' U M' U2 M' U M' U M' U M'

Link below:
http://algdb.net/puzzle/333/ell
 
Question: sometimes I get edges in the correct position, but incorrect orientation. Is that because I shot for the wrong target in the pair when making my memo? I’m guessing yes, but wasn’t sure.

Also, I saw a couple videos that say, “if you have flipped edges, say on the OV edge, just do it twice.” But how am I supposed to know it’s flipped? Seems like (related to my first question) that I you get the memo right and put the correct edge face in the correct target location, you should never have a flipped edge at the end.

Just stuff I’m figuring out through practice. I’ll get there.

The simple way to memo a flipped edge is as its own cycle, of two targets. While not optimal... it gets the job done.

And yes, if you get memo right, the remaining edge should not be flipped. :).
 
@Shaky Hands I saw that Guildford is in March this year which seems quite early. How many PBs are you going to get there this year? I am in the process of learning 4x4 went from 6 minutes to 2.30 average and remembered you did a 1.56 minutes single on the 5x5 so am some way off. I can't comprehend how it's even possible. Do you use Yau? My next step is to learn Yau for the 4x4 but I hear it is best to average 2 minutes on the reduction method first.

Hi mate.

Yes, Guildford has moved to early in the year compared to previously. How many PB's I might get at Guildford is likely to depend on how the Wales and Manchester competitions go. I'd settle for one PB if it was just handed out, but as the World Championship ended by PB streak anyway, I'll be happy to just participate!

I use Hoya for 4x4 through to 7x7. In all cases I get better times than with reduction. I just find Hoya easier to understand and execute than Yau. I think I switched to Hoya on 4x4 before I got down to a 2m average.

Big cubes are so much more interesting to me than 3x3. Hope you enjoy practicing 4x4 and above more. Enjoy!
 
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