newtonbase
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I think the lesson here is to get it right in the first place.
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mark49152
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Most people group cubes into blocks. 4 or 8 are popular sizes. I use 4. For each block I memo all then do the first review of all, including checking against the cube, before moving on to the next pack. I also go back to each block 1-2 times later just to check I recall the memo, but without checking against the cubes again.
You can't trust you'll always get it right first time, no matter how long you take. For me, errors in initial memo are rare, maybe once every 2-3 large attempts, but they do happen.
Alex B71
Regular
Hey guys, most likely the wrong place to ask but it seems all the UK guys are in this forum.
Does anybody have any info on the next competition that will hold a MBLD event? I've had a look around, i missed out on weston, so i was wondering if anyone had any insider info?
Does anybody have any info on the next competition that will hold a MBLD event? I've had a look around, i missed out on weston, so i was wondering if anyone had any insider info?
newtonbase
Premium Member
The WCA site is pretty up to date with future competitions. Guildford is the next one https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/competitions/Guildford Open 2018
newtonbase
Premium Member
Did a 3 cube multi attempt, mainly to try some new rooms. 0/3 in 11:46. Encouraged by the time and nothing was off by too much but I've now run out of house for new rooms. Going to have to go back to old residences.
mark49152
Premium Member
Here's my multi PB from Saturday.
I keep a spreadsheet to log and analyse all my MBLD practice attempts, including splits, and I use this to estimate performance and decide how many cubes to do. Based on recent practice, my model predicted 1:08 per cube for initial memo, 0:50 for first review, 0:18 per quick review, and 0:56 per cube for execution, for a total time of 57:02 for 17 cubes.
Actual results based on analysis of the Weston video: 1:08, 0:49, 0:19, 0:56 and 57:17 respectively. And note that I spent 13 seconds propping up the stopwatch and putting on the harmonica holder, so actual solving time was 57:04.
Not bad accuracy eh
I keep a spreadsheet to log and analyse all my MBLD practice attempts, including splits, and I use this to estimate performance and decide how many cubes to do. Based on recent practice, my model predicted 1:08 per cube for initial memo, 0:50 for first review, 0:18 per quick review, and 0:56 per cube for execution, for a total time of 57:02 for 17 cubes.
Actual results based on analysis of the Weston video: 1:08, 0:49, 0:19, 0:56 and 57:17 respectively. And note that I spent 13 seconds propping up the stopwatch and putting on the harmonica holder, so actual solving time was 57:04.
Not bad accuracy eh
h2f
Premium Member
Here's my multi PB from Saturday.
I keep a spreadsheet to log and analyse all my MBLD practice attempts, including splits, and I use this to estimate performance and decide how many cubes to do. Based on recent practice, my model predicted 1:08 per cube for initial memo, 0:50 for first review, 0:18 per quick review, and 0:56 per cube for execution, for a total time of 57:02 for 17 cubes.
Actual results based on analysis of the Weston video: 1:08, 0:49, 0:19, 0:56 and 57:17 respectively. And note that I spent 13 seconds propping up the stopwatch and putting on the harmonica holder, so actual solving time was 57:04.
Not bad accuracy eh
The analysis of that kind are really awsome in mbld. It's not comparable to other events. Great Mark!
pglewis
Veteran
Also congrats to Andy and Chris for a really impressive set of big cube PBs, especially 6x6. Spectacular stuff. Special congrats to Chris for inching above me in the oldies 4x4 rankings by beating my single and average by 0.05 and 0.07 seconds respectively
Great job on the 16/17, great rivalry brewing between you and Chris on 4x4... and I know he still has a little way to go before hitting the over-40s ranks but Andy is quickly becoming a real threat on the bigger puzzles.
Good battle for sub-2 in 3bld brewing between @newtonbase and @openseas, too.
newtonbase
Premium Member
Unfortunately I'm not competing before February so @openseas probably has that one in the bag. Might be ya race to sub 1:30 by then. The first solve on Saturday was a 1:40ish DNF. Should have had it.
mark49152
Premium Member
With my 3BLD performance on Saturday, I might be joining your race to sub-1 in a few months
newtonbase
Premium Member
You'd be lost without your sub 1 goal.With my 3BLD performance on Saturday, I might be joining your race to sub-1 in a few months
Selkie
Premium Member
Well what a weekend! First and foremost I would like to say what an honour and privilege it was to be given the opportunity of being able to co-host a competition with my buddy @Shaky Hands . Whilst knackering I had an absolute blast would do it all again in a heartbeat!
We received so much positive feedback, especially about the venue which was excellent and would have to credit @Shaky Hands with that awesome find.
It was a pleasure to be able to judge @newtonbase 's MBLD success and be there to see @mark49152 's winning 16/17 and shake his hand. Being able to judge MBLD with a pint in my hand was just icing on the cake. You guys did fantastically and I look forward to seeing you progress to more cubes in the near future. @Shaky Hands got some awesome big cube PBs and I completely agree, once Andy hits the 40's list he is going to be topping some charts, he got some great 5 and 6 results amongst a collection of comp PBs.
As for my own results, they were mixed but I managed to get away with a few milestones and achievements, just. Here is a rundown of the events that mattered:-
3x3: What can I say. Solves ranged between disappointing and abysmal! I really do need to make some significant changes to get sub 15 in comp. I have a plan for this though which I will reveal in the coming weeks. How I managed to qualify for R2 and the final is beyond me!
4x4: This has been a bit of a nemesis event for me. I usually get double parity first solve and it puts me off. I had no parity first solve and still got a below par time. The pb single was an OLL skip if I remember correctly and really didn't deserve to beat @mark49152 's PBs. Averaging mid 58s at home, 1:05 is poor.
5x5: I started with three solves over 2 minutes albeit only just over two minutes so I was happy to be able to get two sub 1:55 solves to secure my first official sub 2min average.
6x6: I was lucky enough to borrow @Shaky Hands magnetic 6x6 for my solves which gave me more confidence. First solve was about my global average but on the second I got a pop that went under the table. I had to get on hands and knees and find the piece and carefully fix the pop not being my cube and the result was a solve +1 minute over usual. I was hoping to aim for sub 4minute mean and sub no 1 on the over 40s chart and thought it was out of reach. I knew I needed a solve in the mid 3:30 range to have a chance. I tried to push TPS just a little and luckily didn't pop again, getting a 3:37 single making a 3:59.09 mean and previous over 40s mean record was 3:59.35. Still not sure how I got away with a 4:36.87 in there!
7x7: This time I was able to borrow a magnetised 7x7. First two solves a bit slow but still managed the over 40s mean but missed single by about 0.3 seconds.
Looking forward to the results being posted and @Logiqx rankings to be refreshed. Not sure how I have managed to get 2nd in 4 and 5 average behind Ron and 1st in 6 and 7 but I feel there is more in the tank, especially switching to M cubes for 6 and 7.
We received so much positive feedback, especially about the venue which was excellent and would have to credit @Shaky Hands with that awesome find.
It was a pleasure to be able to judge @newtonbase 's MBLD success and be there to see @mark49152 's winning 16/17 and shake his hand. Being able to judge MBLD with a pint in my hand was just icing on the cake. You guys did fantastically and I look forward to seeing you progress to more cubes in the near future. @Shaky Hands got some awesome big cube PBs and I completely agree, once Andy hits the 40's list he is going to be topping some charts, he got some great 5 and 6 results amongst a collection of comp PBs.
As for my own results, they were mixed but I managed to get away with a few milestones and achievements, just. Here is a rundown of the events that mattered:-
3x3: What can I say. Solves ranged between disappointing and abysmal! I really do need to make some significant changes to get sub 15 in comp. I have a plan for this though which I will reveal in the coming weeks. How I managed to qualify for R2 and the final is beyond me!
4x4: This has been a bit of a nemesis event for me. I usually get double parity first solve and it puts me off. I had no parity first solve and still got a below par time. The pb single was an OLL skip if I remember correctly and really didn't deserve to beat @mark49152 's PBs. Averaging mid 58s at home, 1:05 is poor.
5x5: I started with three solves over 2 minutes albeit only just over two minutes so I was happy to be able to get two sub 1:55 solves to secure my first official sub 2min average.
6x6: I was lucky enough to borrow @Shaky Hands magnetic 6x6 for my solves which gave me more confidence. First solve was about my global average but on the second I got a pop that went under the table. I had to get on hands and knees and find the piece and carefully fix the pop not being my cube and the result was a solve +1 minute over usual. I was hoping to aim for sub 4minute mean and sub no 1 on the over 40s chart and thought it was out of reach. I knew I needed a solve in the mid 3:30 range to have a chance. I tried to push TPS just a little and luckily didn't pop again, getting a 3:37 single making a 3:59.09 mean and previous over 40s mean record was 3:59.35. Still not sure how I got away with a 4:36.87 in there!
7x7: This time I was able to borrow a magnetised 7x7. First two solves a bit slow but still managed the over 40s mean but missed single by about 0.3 seconds.
Looking forward to the results being posted and @Logiqx rankings to be refreshed. Not sure how I have managed to get 2nd in 4 and 5 average behind Ron and 1st in 6 and 7 but I feel there is more in the tank, especially switching to M cubes for 6 and 7.
newtonbase
Premium Member
Some excellent results there @Selkie. Well done on them but I think the comp was the greater achievement. It wasn't just the venue. Everything went very smoothly. I didn't hear any complaints at all. There were a lot of new cubers there who I think will be looking forward to more comps thanks to you two.
Shaky Hands
Premium Member
Yeah I had a great time as part of the team running the comp. It was great to see so many faces, both familiar and new. I think I feel I've helped the community have another successful competition; and that was the aim of it. Any big cube successes are just icing on the cake.
Thanks especially @Selkie. Good work too matey.
Thanks especially @Selkie. Good work too matey.
Jason Green
Veteran
Over 40s Magic Mike, sounds like a movie a few years from now.Results for Weston-super-Mare are up. Could you work your over 40s magic Mike, buddy ( @Logiqx)
newtonbase
Premium Member
Woo hoo. Scraped top 10 for over 40s 3BLD.
mark49152
Premium Member
Nice job. Some good rankings for Chris as well.
newtonbase
Premium Member
Chris and yourself are right up there with the very best.
One of my targets for this year was to get a top 20 UK ranking and I thought 3BLD was the way to do this. Unfortunately my plan coincided with a big upturn in interest in the event amongst the youngsters so the target is now looking out of reach. I think a switch in focus to MBLD with 4BLD as a backup is the way to go. Full MBLD practice attempts aren't really possible for me so I'm hoping that more frequent smaller attempts will do the job. I'm aiming for speedy 4 cube attempts in my lunch breaks plus some proper letter pair practice on Anki. I'll probably have to cash in a few brownie points to get to comps just on the day they are holding these events with fewer full weekends.
This is the current plan. It may change. Comments/advice welcome..
mark49152
Premium Member
@newtonbase:. Yes that's how I practise. Lots of 4 cube attempts to work on speed. Then occasional big attempts to stretch my memo. If you're shooting for 8 or 12 next comp you want to have done that many at home a few times to feel comfortable with that amount of memo. If you're struggling to fit it into the hour, go back to the 4 cube attempts to work on speed. I also rotate my 4 cube attempts through all my rooms so they all get equal use and stay familiar.
