mark49152
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Can't get clearer than that
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I looked on some normal memory forums, for people who do stuff like memorize card decks etc... PAO is a system they use, though they typically use 100 symbols per Person, Action or Object. There's some people working on bumping that to 1000.Can't get clearer than that
To me that was a warning. If they couldn't handle the 1000... Chances are, I wasn't going to easily handle ~400-500 out of the box, for encoidng two letters per Person, Action or Object. So I chose the next number down. ~24. :
If I can form a vivid image out of a "PAO" triplet, as a single image... then it might work, was my thought. Then I get 24*24*24 or 13824 possibilities per memory spot. Which seems like a good deal.
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Sub 19 official. How cool is that! Congrats sir. My hat off to you.
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LOL.. What's wrong with Pyraminx? If I replace the word Pyra with Mega this post, it would have made complete sense to me
h2f
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newtonbase
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I'm hopeless at it. It's so simple but I just can't get the hand of it. I did PB at the weekend thoughLOL.. What's wrong with Pyraminx? If I replace the word Pyra with Mega this post, it would have made complete sense to me
kbrune
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Hey all! Congrats on all successes at comp last weekend.
Apologies for the TL;DR bellow
Question to everyone.
Have you ever suffered headaches or any brain issues from long periods of cubing or learning new events or techniques in general?
I ask because I'm currently dealing with this issue. It started for me about a year ago when I challenged myself to learn all events and get results in all events.
At first it was the ususal cloudy mind after long sessions of solving. Which wasn't an issue. It would go away after a break and I likened it to physical exercise where your muscles would get tired.
Slowly it grew to headaches. At first I didn't realise they were a result of cubing. I assumed it was my addiction to coffee. So I significantly slowed down my coffee intake but this made no difference. Even a month without coffee didn't stop the headaches.
I came to realize it was cubing since the only time the headaches went away is when I stepped away from cubing altogether. Either from busy life or whatever. Once I started regular practice again for upcoming comps. Headaches would start up again.
In the last 2 weeks though it's gotten worse. Couple of months ago i challenged myself to improve 3bld and mbld. So learning comms, pushing memo, implementing my letter pair list, and studying. In the last 2 weeks its to the point where I get 20 solves into an ao50 and my head is cloudy and hurts more then ususal. Today I did an ao5 for 2x2. 3 solves on 4x4 and I'm feeling it. It's scaring me.
I'm worried I'll have to purposely step away from cubing for a while. Which will derail my progress in Bld. Does anyone of my genius cubing colleagues have any knowledge in neuro science?
Anyone know if you can cause serious damage when pushing a brain with headaches? I did a couple of Google searches but haven't found anything useful yet.
Apologies for the TL;DR bellow
Question to everyone.
Have you ever suffered headaches or any brain issues from long periods of cubing or learning new events or techniques in general?
I ask because I'm currently dealing with this issue. It started for me about a year ago when I challenged myself to learn all events and get results in all events.
At first it was the ususal cloudy mind after long sessions of solving. Which wasn't an issue. It would go away after a break and I likened it to physical exercise where your muscles would get tired.
Slowly it grew to headaches. At first I didn't realise they were a result of cubing. I assumed it was my addiction to coffee. So I significantly slowed down my coffee intake but this made no difference. Even a month without coffee didn't stop the headaches.
I came to realize it was cubing since the only time the headaches went away is when I stepped away from cubing altogether. Either from busy life or whatever. Once I started regular practice again for upcoming comps. Headaches would start up again.
In the last 2 weeks though it's gotten worse. Couple of months ago i challenged myself to improve 3bld and mbld. So learning comms, pushing memo, implementing my letter pair list, and studying. In the last 2 weeks its to the point where I get 20 solves into an ao50 and my head is cloudy and hurts more then ususal. Today I did an ao5 for 2x2. 3 solves on 4x4 and I'm feeling it. It's scaring me.
I'm worried I'll have to purposely step away from cubing for a while. Which will derail my progress in Bld. Does anyone of my genius cubing colleagues have any knowledge in neuro science?
Anyone know if you can cause serious damage when pushing a brain with headaches? I did a couple of Google searches but haven't found anything useful yet.
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h2f
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Sad to read it. I've never had such symptoms caused with cubing.
newtonbase
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Could it be a sight problem? Have you had your eyes tested? Do you take regular breaks or sit staring at the cubes for lengthy periods?
Maybe try looking at something further away after every AO5.
pglewis
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@kbrune: do you get any neck or shoulder pain? Have issues with extremities tingling? I've been a developer since 19*mumble-mumble* and I think I've traced my chronic headaches to a couple decades of poor posture resulting in neck curvature issues. Cubing for long periods of time could be bending your neck down and causing strain, you may try making sure to stretch the neck muscles when you take breaks and make a conscious effort to keep the neck, back, and shoulders straight.
Also could be eye related or a combination, as @newtonbase says. What I do not want to believe is that you're hurting yourself by thinking too much! Whatever the case, I hope you can remedy it, headaches are no fun.
Also could be eye related or a combination, as @newtonbase says. What I do not want to believe is that you're hurting yourself by thinking too much! Whatever the case, I hope you can remedy it, headaches are no fun.
kbrune
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@newtonbase @pglewis
I've heard of issues with eyes being related to headaches. Perhaps I'll have my eyes tested just in case. Based on when and how the headaches come on. It feels more like a result of processing during solves, thinking and figuring things out. I certainly can't rule out the possibility. I haven't felt any neck or shoulder pain really. I'm going to pay attention more though.
I also do not want to believe that solving hurts!
I've heard of issues with eyes being related to headaches. Perhaps I'll have my eyes tested just in case. Based on when and how the headaches come on. It feels more like a result of processing during solves, thinking and figuring things out. I certainly can't rule out the possibility. I haven't felt any neck or shoulder pain really. I'm going to pay attention more though.
I also do not want to believe that solving hurts!
pglewis
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Great image/letter pair discussion. I'll add some resources I've been using besides the letter pair list on the wiki and Chris Hardwick's lists:
Acronyms on The Free Dictionary Just searching on a letter pair can turn up some handy ones that are easy to remember
People by Initials When all else fails, maybe there's an easy famous person
You Go Words! This is fantastic, especially for finding useful alternates. You can specify parts of speech, so "verb starting with sn" is a valid search. Genius.
More Words Won't do parts of speech but will do single and multi character wildcards, which I don't think the above site supports. Handy to be able to specify searches like "g-ff*".
And occasionally a search on the letter pair in good ol' Wikipedia comes up with something good that none of the others did.
Acronyms on The Free Dictionary Just searching on a letter pair can turn up some handy ones that are easy to remember
People by Initials When all else fails, maybe there's an easy famous person
You Go Words! This is fantastic, especially for finding useful alternates. You can specify parts of speech, so "verb starting with sn" is a valid search. Genius.
More Words Won't do parts of speech but will do single and multi character wildcards, which I don't think the above site supports. Handy to be able to specify searches like "g-ff*".
And occasionally a search on the letter pair in good ol' Wikipedia comes up with something good that none of the others did.
mafergut
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Sorry to hear about your headache issues, @kbrune. I hope you can sort it out with the help of the doctors. The prospect of having to abandon a hobby just because of health issues is not good. I had to stop biking and running due to a couple "slipped discs" (not sure if that's the correct way to say it in English) and it's no fun at all.
I tend to agree, though, with the others that it could be either something related to your sight or your neck. Good luck and a good dose of patience as well.
EDIT: Oh, I'm sure I forgot to congratulate a lot of people, like @h2f Grzegorz for that official sub-19 Ao5 and @Selkie Chris for that sub 1min Ao12 at 4x4, surely to others but I do not have as much time to roam the forum as before. Great stuff!!!
What I had yesterday was like 1h train commute to solve my new WuShuang and I think I am getting used to the smaller size and liking it better than my Yuxin 5x5. The 3x3 stage is definitely faster and algs flow very nicely, helped by the smaller size. Still having some problems with slices during edge pairing but I like the cube a lot.
I tend to agree, though, with the others that it could be either something related to your sight or your neck. Good luck and a good dose of patience as well.
EDIT: Oh, I'm sure I forgot to congratulate a lot of people, like @h2f Grzegorz for that official sub-19 Ao5 and @Selkie Chris for that sub 1min Ao12 at 4x4, surely to others but I do not have as much time to roam the forum as before. Great stuff!!!
What I had yesterday was like 1h train commute to solve my new WuShuang and I think I am getting used to the smaller size and liking it better than my Yuxin 5x5. The 3x3 stage is definitely faster and algs flow very nicely, helped by the smaller size. Still having some problems with slices during edge pairing but I like the cube a lot.
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pglewis
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Yeah, I need to keep in mind that the association stuff only matters for me at this stage. It doesn't matter if I stash "Fred Flintstone" as the image for "XW" as long as that association is embedded and automatic, somehow. I could ditch symbols completely and just associate images with positions directly, using the corners and edges of a room to visualize. I'll pass on that novelty though, if for no other reason than standards make communicating with others a lot easier.
I think that can possibly work well. The actual number of words doesn't seem to be the mental cost for me, it's the number of images. It would certainly fill out your image association table a lot faster.
newtonbase
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I hadn't considered posture as the problem but it is definitely a strong possibility.
People by Initials is a favourite of mine and I did have a similar one but have misplaced the link. I'll have a look at the others.
moralsh
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I need to post this:
After a very complicated start of the year fore several reasons (some good, some bad) and almost no practice, I did some 4x4 solves (1:15 Ao5) and some 3x3 because I have a comp on Saturday, after 15-20 solves averaging 19-18, came this:
https://alg.cubing.net/?setup=L2_U_...U-_R-_U-_R_y_R2_Uw_R-_U_R_U-_R_Uw-_R2_//_PLL
9.57 Full step, obviously PB
Sorry for being so out lately, I'll try to catch up a little next week
After a very complicated start of the year fore several reasons (some good, some bad) and almost no practice, I did some 4x4 solves (1:15 Ao5) and some 3x3 because I have a comp on Saturday, after 15-20 solves averaging 19-18, came this:
https://alg.cubing.net/?setup=L2_U_...U-_R-_U-_R_y_R2_Uw_R-_U_R_U-_R_Uw-_R2_//_PLL
9.57 Full step, obviously PB
Sorry for being so out lately, I'll try to catch up a little next week
h2f
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Very nice. And nice TPS.I ttied to do the "fill out the table" exercise... it was horrible for me
. This is my response to it.. more research .
mark49152
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@kbrune: Posture is a definite possibility. You say you haven't noticed pain in the neck, but tension in the neck can manifest as headache. You could try switching your solving to a different chair and table for a while, or to a sofa, etc.
@pglewis: Another good resource I have used a lot is http://www.visca.com/regexdict/
@pglewis: Another good resource I have used a lot is http://www.visca.com/regexdict/
