h2f
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I've seen a review of Wuque and the youtuber said - if it costs 10$ it would be fine but with the high price over 25$ you expect something better.
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mark49152
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Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, given all the hype. It is still a nice cube, but it really had the potential to be great. Unfortunately the plastic just generates too much friction and that lets it down.
Dom
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The Wuque 2nd batch is amazing. If you bought yours from anywhere except Speedcubeshop, then you might have gotten the first batch, which has mold defects on some of the pieces. QiYi and the Cubicle will tell you that it doesn't affect the performance, but my research suggests otherwise.
I set a new PB right away. I can finally do stuff with the Wuque that were just not possible with any other 4x4.
The following post explains everything:
QiYi WuQue Review
Hey I was thinking about competing at the Montreal Open Winter 2017 which is next month. Any of you is going ?
Also, since this will be my very first comp, can you please tell me what to expect ? I know there are rounds (three ?) so I'm assuming I get to solve 1 to 3 times (most probably one) during the day but I have no clue what the cutoff between them is, what to expect as for schedules, etc. Any idea ?
Also, since this will be my very first comp, can you please tell me what to expect ? I know there are rounds (three ?) so I'm assuming I get to solve 1 to 3 times (most probably one) during the day but I have no clue what the cutoff between them is, what to expect as for schedules, etc. Any idea ?
mark49152
Premium Member
Yes I read that post, and replied on the thread. I don't think my issues are down to mold defects. The feel of the puzzle is good and there are no catches. It's more like the plastic is sticky and is better explained by a difference in plastic between black and stickerless.
mafergut
Legend
I just read all that thread and even though my cube is stickerless and doesn't feel like it has any mold defect I still think it's slow. I will do one or two Ao100 this week and see if there are any changes with breaking in. Not sure if I should tinker with tensions. I'm afraid of loosening it because of pops. But if Feliks changed from his beloved AoSu to this... Do you know if Feliks' unit is black or stickerless?
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newtonbase
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Have a look at the results from the last time they held it to get an idea of how many rounds there are likely to be and the expected cut offs. I recommend you enter everything you can solve.
pipkiksass
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I've never known Feliks to use a stickerless cube, but that isn't to say he doesn't... I've never even seen a stickerless cube in the background of one of his videos...
That said, the WuQue seems to be the marmite of the cube world. I'd be interested to see if the plastic is the same feel as the stickerless plastic on the Valk 3 and WuShuang, which I personally like a lot, although it's definitely a completely different feeling to the plastic on my white Valk 3. I prefer it to the plastic on my stickerless Yuxin Blue, which feels (as Mark describes the WuQue) kinda sticky.
I ordered one (stickerless) from Lightake last week because they're ludicrously cheap there. Interested to see if I have a bad mould, or batch, or plastic...
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Dom
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Now that you've broken it in, take it apart, clean every piece really good, then put it back together with a little bit of medium lube and silk. Break in the lube, and it should improve.
also, what color are your inside pieces? mine are yellow and the plastic is nice and flexible.
biscuit
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He uses a stickerless Yuxin 5x5 (or at least did) and I think he uses a stickerless 7x7. I may be wrong on that though.
mafergut
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Yeah, he's been using a Yuxin 5x5 for a while and he recently changed to a stickerless WuQue and WuJi (he beat the 7x7 WR average with the WuJi) and also a stickerless Moyu Weishi GTS (broke the WR single with it). So, right now, his only stickered "cube" is the Gans 356 Air and that's probably because there is no stickerless version. Well, not sure about 2x2 either, I think he was using a stickered Dayan?
Also in Megaminx he's using a Galaxy stickerless since it came out. Not sure about other puzzles like skewb or pyra.
EDIT: Regarding the WuQue... it's breaking in a bit and that's loosening it some amount so it requires a bit less force to turn now. If it continues changing in that way it will end up being a great cube. But it's already my new main. First 60 timed solves with it and I have improved my PB Ao50 by more than 1 sec and got my 1st sub 1:20 Ao50
(1:19.87). It's so stable that it compensates for the sluggishness as I'm able to turn more accurately and get less lockups.
Also in Megaminx he's using a Galaxy stickerless since it came out. Not sure about other puzzles like skewb or pyra.
EDIT: Regarding the WuQue... it's breaking in a bit and that's loosening it some amount so it requires a bit less force to turn now. If it continues changing in that way it will end up being a great cube. But it's already my new main. First 60 timed solves with it and I have improved my PB Ao50 by more than 1 sec and got my 1st sub 1:20 Ao50
(1:19.87). It's so stable that it compensates for the sluggishness as I'm able to turn more accurately and get less lockups.
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pipkiksass
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I seriously need to catch up, still living in the cubing world of 2013... Feliks still holds the 3x3 single WR, right?? [emoji6]
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mafergut
Legend
Well, yeah, after several years of not having it, he regained it some weeks ago. But it's been beaten like 5 or 6 times since he had last held it, if I'm counting right.
pglewis
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This was my take as well. My broken-in G4 is faster, but the 3x3 stage especially LL algs are more dodgy on the G4. Plus I don't tend to worry about pops on the WuQue.
@teacher77: hard-cutoff for 3x3 is usually a generous 10 minutes, so no worries there. They'll usually break up the competitors for each event into "heats", you'll find out what heat you're in for the event and go up when your heat is called. Find the timing sheet with your name on it, put your solved cube on top of it, then wait for them to call your name for your first solve. After the solve you'll initial the time-sheet along with the judge, and go back to the waiting area until they call you again. The comp I just attended sent the top 32 to the second round, all of those were sub 18 averages. Here's the competitor orientation: https://www.cubingusa.com/ctutorial.php
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CLL Smooth
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Due to my busy life, I haven't been able to keep up with this thread as much as I'd like. I can't remember the last time I heard something about race to sub-1 on 4x4 but I do remember that being a thing. Maybe Selkie got that one already. I've come quite close to an Ao5 sub-1 several times already. Is it sub-1 Ao12 we're shooting for? And am I too late on this one?
Shaky Hands
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25-Jun-2011 Feliks Zemdegs 5.66
3-Mar-2013 Mats Valk 5.55
25-Apr-2015 Collin Burns 5.25
21-Nov-2015 Lucas Etter 4.90
6-Nov-2016 Mats Valk 4.74
11-Dec-2016 Feliks Zemdegs 4.73
https://www.worldcubeassociation.or...?regionId=&eventId=333&years=&history=History
Dom
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I agree. My G4 with thunderclap springs has less resistance when simply turning than the Wuque, but the Wuque gives me way faster times because I don't have to worry about catches, popping, or lockups. But, by no means would I consider it "sluggish."
mafergut
Legend
@Shaky Hands, Thanks a lot for the information about the 3x3 WR single evolution. It's also worth mentioning, even though it didn't become an official WR, the 5.09 by Keaton Ellis that very same day and comp 
@Dom, sorry, I didn't answer before, internals are white in my WuQue, and by the way, I popped it once already but I really had a very misaligned U layer during OLL parity so it was my fault mainly.
I'm almost done with my 1st Ao100 and, oh my!!! The running Ao50 has come down another 2 seconds to an incredible (for me) 1:17.71. As I can't believe I have improved 3 seconds in 2 days we have to conclude that a good part of that improvement is due to the cube. Bye bye, KungFu CangFeng I have also beaten PB Ao5 and Ao12 and Ao100 will be crushed too as soon as I finish the session (93 solves so far) so, right now, my only PB remaining with the CangFeng is single.
@Dom, sorry, I didn't answer before, internals are white in my WuQue, and by the way, I popped it once already
but I really had a very misaligned U layer during OLL parity so it was my fault mainly.I'm almost done with my 1st Ao100 and, oh my!!! The running Ao50 has come down another 2 seconds to an incredible (for me) 1:17.71. As I can't believe I have improved 3 seconds in 2 days we have to conclude that a good part of that improvement is due to the cube. Bye bye, KungFu CangFeng
I have also beaten PB Ao5 and Ao12 and Ao100 will be crushed too as soon as I finish the session (93 solves so far) so, right now, my only PB remaining with the CangFeng is single.
earth2dan
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Poor Mats. Barely had it 1 month and Feliks beats him by less than .01. These elite speed cubers are in another realm.
I've begun my 2017 quest for colour neutrality in earnest. Blue seems to be my worst cross colour so I started practicing blue cross only solves last week and just now I finally got my first sub-20 single. It was a great blue cross scramble. My average is still up around 28 though, long ways to go.
19.52 - F2 U' R2 D R2 D2 F2 D' F2 U F2 U F D' R' F L' F D2 B2 R U
Update: Scratch that! Just got 17.45 with a PLL skip - F2 L2 F2 D2 B2 D' R2 B2 D' F2 R2 F L U' L2 F U' F' D' R' B' U2
I've begun my 2017 quest for colour neutrality in earnest. Blue seems to be my worst cross colour so I started practicing blue cross only solves last week and just now I finally got my first sub-20 single. It was a great blue cross scramble. My average is still up around 28 though, long ways to go.
19.52 - F2 U' R2 D R2 D2 F2 D' F2 U F2 U F D' R' F L' F D2 B2 R U
Update: Scratch that! Just got 17.45 with a PLL skip - F2 L2 F2 D2 B2 D' R2 B2 D' F2 R2 F L U' L2 F U' F' D' R' B' U2
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pglewis
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I think this is my post-comp list for 3x3, still in flux and I haven't prioritized, but plenty to keep me busy:
- cross efficiency practice, blind cross practice, cross +1 practice
- spam blind F2L pair practice; look for better solutions for a few remaining awkward cases
- start picking up a new group of OLLs regularly, maybe one a week
- learn a few more angles for some OCLLs to cut down an AUF here and there
- white/yellow neutral or even full CN practice
- sighted-blind learning
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