Older cubers discussions

[APdRF]

Yeah, it's non-lucky, I.e. no accidental or fortuitous skips, etc.. so Matts short-loved WR would be NL, because he forced OLL skip.


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What about the PLL skip?

 

[mafergut]

Regarding cube size discussion... Maybe that Zhanchi is a mini? That would be 54.5mm if I'm not wrong. The regular size Zhanchi is 57mm (I have 3 of them ). The GTS and the latest cubes are more like 56.5mm or 56.mm so the Valk3 is not that much smaller than any of them. I have big hands and always preferred 57mm cubes but I have managed to get used to smaller ones and I have no problem whatsoever with the Valk. I had some minor issues at the beginning with M slices but not any more.

Very nice singles, @pipkiksass and @Selkie. I'm so envious of that sub-50 4x4... I would be happy with a sub 1 minute.

And now... you will not believe this but I have realized that, many times, cube preferences are just subjective. I decided to get used again to 62mm 4x4s in anticipation for the WuQue I ordered. So, as my only stickerless 62mm 4x4 is the KungFu, I decided to give it a go. Back when I bought it I barely did like 10-20 solves with it and found it a bit too lose. Did 3-4 solves and had a massive pop so I tightened it half a screw turn. Did an Ao12 and got... PB Ao5 (1:15.xx) and PB Ao12 (1:19.xx), around 2 seconds off of each PB.

I think I'm changing mains and I hope to change again as soon as the WuQue arrives (probably next year).

 

[muchacho]

Nice to hear you like the KungFu 4x4... 5 weeks have passed since I ordered it (stickerless), I hope it arrives soon but I'm getting a bit nervous. I want to practice 4x4 but don't want to use a non-stickerless one since that practice might not be of much use.

 

[JanW]

Maybe that Zhanchi is a mini? That would be 54.5mm if I'm not wrong.

That sounds plausible. I checked my old Fasttech order, it does not mention "mini", but it does say 55mm. Probably a mini then. It was the first speedcube I bought and I didn't know anything about sizes back then. Not that it would have ever bothered me that it was that small.

 

[pglewis]

On the subject of lucky solves, I recently stated I'd count any legit scramble... then I got a 2:00 flat on 4x4 that just feels wrong lol. It was a csTimer generated scramble but almost all centers were ready to go half-centers and like 4 or 5 solved dedges. By all rights it should have been a 1:50 or better but for a lousy 3x3 stage, on a night where I was struggling to get under 3 mins.

 

[muchacho]

Count it, getting lucky is not a crime. I may go too far, since I usually hand scramble (which takes me more time) 4x4 or square-1, and I count those times with no remorse (since anyway, they are so bad that they will be beaten soon).

 

[mark49152]

I checked my old Fasttech order, it does not mention "mini", but it does say 55mm.

There's no Zhanchi "mini" but they come in four sizes, 57, 55, 50 and 42mm. IMHO the 55mm actually feels the nicest, it's a good size and smoother than the others.

 

[Jason Green]

I relearn Ortega before every comp.

If you don't have to brush up on 2x2 you're practicing it too much. Just kidding. Been there before but not last comp.

 

[Shaky Hands]

My mains at UKC just over a month ago were:-

(...) 4x4: Cyclone Boys G4 (...)

Just a month later here is my main list:-

(...) 4x4: Qiyi WuQue (...)

My WuQue arrived from Marty today. Probably an instant main. By far the most stable 4x4 I've ever owned, even at default tensions and factory lube.

 

[JanW]

Did 100 solves today, which included 6 sub-20 solves and 10 sup-30 solves. I think the next milestone will be when I start seeing more sub-20s than sup-30s. A lot of the 30+ solves were because of messed up crosses. Sometimes I just can't find a good cross solution during inspection, then I panic and screw up everything. Need to get rid of that somehow.

Also new pb Ao5 and got my second fastest single ever, 15.18s (PLL skip). The single is one second slower than my pb, but 2 seconds faster than my previous second best. The 14s pb single from 2 months back was super lucky, I think it will be a while until I can beat that.

 

[phreaker]

There's no Zhanchi "mini" but they come in four sizes, 57, 55, 50 and 42mm. IMHO the 55mm actually feels the nicest, it's a good size and smoother than the others.

I have a 50 and a fleet of 42s. (4 of them?) I like the 42 to learn OH, just get the motions down, because you don't have the flexibility to actually do the real movement yet. So you can build some strength and movement, without needing to goto 56-57mm.

Also shape matters. The GTS always feels a bit "smaller" in my hand than a 356 or 356 air. I think the more rounded corner caps have something to do with it. Where "The Valk" feels a hair larger than it should... Mind you I still love it for OH, though mine's gotten sluggish. I need to go in and figure out why.

 

[phreaker]

My WuQue arrived from Marty today. Probably an instant main. By far the most stable 4x4 I've ever owned, even at default tensions and factory lube.

Is the Wuque worth it if you have an Aosu and are learning 4x4?

 

[kbrune]

Hey guys. Read about the last 10 pages and there's way too much to comment on so I'll just say Congrats to all the progress posted!

I'm looking for some help on my letter pair list. It's been a more difficult process then I thought! I have about 460 ish done but I'm struggling to find images for the last 40 or so. Here they are.

ID IH IN IR JN LA LF LR LW
NR NS OM PJ RL RN TF TL
UD UE UF UG UJ UL UM UV
VH VN WC WJ WR
YC YE YF YG YH YM YN YP
YR YS YT YW

 

[Rahul Tirkey]

Learn tricky f2l cases & try to make cross on bottom...
I'm learning oll ( 5 left) & pll

 

[phreaker]

Hey guys. Read about the last 10 pages and there's way too much to comment on so I'll just say Congrats to all the progress posted!

I'm looking for some help on my letter pair list. It's been a more difficult process then I thought! I have about 460 ish done but I'm struggling to find images for the last 40 or so. Here they are.

ID IH IN IR JN LA LF LR LW
NR NS OM PJ RL RN TF TL
UD UE UF UG UJ UL UM UV
VH VN WC WJ WR
YC YE YF YG YH YM YN YP
YR YS YT YW

Why are you doing Y? Are you using a non-speffz scheme?

 

[kbrune]

When I started bld I chose Y over X cause I could come up with words on the fly easier.
I'm not even sure what speffz means exactly. I simply assigned letters in rotational patterns starting with U face then going F, L, B, R then D face. I skipped Q, and used Y instead of X

 

[pglewis]

A lot of the 30+ solves were because of messed up crosses. Sometimes I just can't find a good cross solution during inspection, then I panic and screw up everything.

I discovered this little gem that I'm spending some time on daily: http://net13.net/Cube/Cross/

 

[newtonbase]

Hey guys. Read about the last 10 pages and there's way too much to comment on so I'll just say Congrats to all the progress posted!

I'm looking for some help on my letter pair list. It's been a more difficult process then I thought! I have about 460 ish done but I'm struggling to find images for the last 40 or so. Here they are.

ID IH IN IR JN LA LF LR LW
NR NS OM PJ RL RN TF TL
UD UE UF UG UJ UL UM UV
VH VN WC WJ WR
YC YE YF YG YH YM YN YP
YR YS YT YW

Here's some sites I use to come up with pairs based on famous people mostly.

http://peoplebyinitials.com
http://mt.artofmemory.com/files/forum/947/initials.txt
http://www.creative-remembering-techniques.com/initials_of_characters_and_actors.html
http://www.superherodb.com/characters/

Some suggestions
ID - ID card
IR - Infra red (goggles)
LF - Laugh
NS - Nessie (Loch Ness monster)
PJ Pajamas
RL Rail
RN - Rain
TF - Tiff (TV presenter on 5th gear)
TV - Tail
UD - Udder
UG - Caveman or Ugly
UK - Ultra violet (sunbed or bad film)
VH - Ving (Rhames) - in audio I use an ng sound where the 2nd letter is H and some of the better ones have leeched over into my images
VN - Van
WC - Toilet
WJ - (potato) Wedge
YN - Yawn
YT - Yacht
YW - Yellow

 

[h2f]

Hey guys. Read about the last 10 pages and there's way too much to comment on so I'll just say Congrats to all the progress posted!

I'm looking for some help on my letter pair list. It's been a more difficult process then I thought! I have about 460 ish done but I'm struggling to find images for the last 40 or so. Here they are.

ID IH IN IR JN LA LF LR LW
NR NS OM PJ RL RN TF TL
UD UE UF UG UJ UL UM UV
VH VN WC WJ WR
YC YE YF YG YH YM YN YP
YR YS YT YW

ID - Indian (taken from Roman's list)
RL - Rolling Stones
VH - Vehicle
YH - Yamaha (motor bike)

 

[Shaky Hands]

Is the Wuque worth it if you have an Aosu and are learning 4x4?

Hmm, I guess the answer to this is relative to how much spare cash you have and how much effort you want to put into 4x4. I've done a lot of 4x4 solves this year, but am still pretty slow at it. Much faster as a result of learning Hoya than I was just using standard reducton method though.

I used an Aosu while I was originally learning 4x4 and it served me fine until it popped and I couldn't find an internal piece. From there I got another Aosu before picking up a G4 which has been my main for most comps this year except for my short-lived fondness of the Yuxin 4x4 that lasted about 2 weeks.

Did several more solves on the Wuque today though and am really enjoying using it. Everything feels far more controllable than on other 4x4's.