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Selkie said:
@earth2dan - Nice camera setup, very inventive. I want to do something about the camera/setup of mine. I am sure people are sick and tired of seeing my washing machine since the study in our house doubles as a utility room.

Got some cubes from my lovely wife for my birthday today so did an unboxing. Warning its a 30 minute video so completely understand if people dot watch it. The cubes unboxed are:-

Moyu Weilong Square-1
Yuxin Blue Stickerless 4x4
Qiyi WuHua Stickerless 6x6

And apologies because much of the video is not in focus...

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Nice video. Seriously, you should be narrating BBC documentaries, I think you missed your calling ;)

I have the stickerless QiYi square-1 as well and all layers felt the same on mine out of the box. Yours might just need some set up. Granted, I don't know any square-1 algs to really push it. When I solve my square-1 it's 15 minutes of pairing and 3-cycles... and praying for no parity because the only way I can fix that is to tear it down, turn one layer, and resolve.

My initial experience with the Yuxin blue was pretty much the same. Though, I never spring swapped. Just lots of setup and break-in to make it great, and it is great.

I love my Yuxin 6x6's, both with and without the spring swap. I think I'll need some more convincing to consider investing in the new QiYi or MoYu. Granted, you're a solid minute faster than me so my thoughts on that might change if/when I get as fast as you.

Logiqx said:
I started to teach the office to cube at lunch time.

We are the proud owners of 12 Thunderclaps in the brand colours, substituting purple for orange.

I also did my first mosaic today... somewhat basic but it's a start. :)

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That's great! Nobody in my office, family, or general vicinity has a shred of interest in cubing. I'm all alone around here.

I've never done a mosaic, but I did put a heart pattern in my 13x13 last valentines day. I put it on the table next to some flowers for the wife. She laughed and called me a nerd. She teases, but she wouldn't have it any other way ;)

moralsh said:
will try to watch part of the video later, but Happy birthday in the meantime ;)

Am I the only one who doesn't get cubes for birthday or christmas? I'm jealous
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I don't get cubes as gifts from anyone but myself. Though last year my friends found a vintage book from 1981 called "The Ideal Solution". It's in mint condition and has nice cover art. I think it teaches an old corners first approach. That was a cool gift, better than buying me a cube.
 
@Selkie, I watched all your vid this PM as I got no lunch break in its usual slot. Thanks for sharing your observations and whilst I wouldn't say I'm glad that I'm not the only person to have a few reservations re: the Qiyi 6x6, I can at least sympathise.

I have done some 6x6 comparison of Yuxin vs Qiyi. Just an Ao5 of each so not something that statistics geeks will give a high confidence rating for but I'll share it anyway:

Yuxin 6x6 Ao5: 5:47.81
(06:35.76,) 05:49.76, (05:34.89,) 05:34.96, 05:58.72

Qiyi 6x6 Ao5: 5:31.67
05:41.70, 05:31.30, (06:18.92,) 05:22.00, (05:13.87)

The final solve there is just about a PB single by an "enormous" 0.12 seconds. All 10 solves would be competition PB singles for me, which gives me hope for Birmingham if I can avoid messing up.

So I think I'm getting the Qiyi to the correct tensions for my turning. It hasn't been a fun process getting it there though. It's been pretty blinkin' awkward. Besides, people with literal shaky hands don't like fixing pops. ;)
 
@earth2dan, that Mefferts ghost! It's the one they didn't have in stock in the brick & mortar store I told you about some days ago. I'm waiting for them to restock it and it will be mine :)

Also very nice camera setup :) The resulting camera angle is great and so was your 5x5 solve.
 
Wow! I placed my most recent cube order at the Canadian cube store Cubing Out Loud Last Wednesday evening and it just arrived. That's gotta be some kind of shipping record for me. Prices are competitive with other North American stores so I'll definitely order from these guys again. This is also the store affiliated with Canadian Cubing, Canada's official speedcubing organization.

I had planned on filming an unboxing when it arrived... but I don't think that's gonna happen now. I can't wait! :p. This order has the Valk3, MoYu WeiChuang GTS 5x5, and QiYi WuShuang 5x5. All of which I'm really excited for.

I'll try and film some solves and post my first impressions later tonight.

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Oh my, the Valk 3 is a main contender right out of the box. Great stickerless shades too. It's just a little too clicky to speedsolve here at the office right now. That might change with some lube/setup. It has a very light and airy feel to it. I like it a lot.
 
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@Logiqx - Very nice spreading the cube love at work :)

@moralsh , @pglewis , @mark49152 - Thank you for the birthday wishes and thanks to others for you for the wishes on Facebook, much appreciated :)

@earth2dan - I may persevere with the Square-1 but for the fact it is on black but I have ordered soem more cubes with birthday money and that includes another Qiyi Stickerless Square-1 which I hope will be better than my current one.

@Shaky Hands - About to throw another spanner in the 6x6 debate having just ordered the Weishi although admittedly on Black. Hopefully the order will be here for an unboxing again this week.Going to try a few more solves today on the WuHua but the biggest issue for me currently is the size, not the turning.

The puzzles I ordered are:-

Moyu Weipo 2x2x2
(Color: Stickerless / Coloured plastic)

Moyu WeiShi GTS 6x6x6
(Color: Black Body)

QiYi / Mo Fang Ge Square-1 speedcube
(Color: Stickerless / Coloured plastic)

QiYi Galaxy Megaminx 'Luxurious Suit' kit

QiYi Sail 3x3 68mm

Qiyi X-Man Tornado 3x3
(Color: Stickerless / Coloured plastic)

ThePuzzleStore.UK Speedlube Ultimate combo + Maru
 
Selkie said:
@Shaky Hands - About to throw another spanner in the 6x6 debate having just ordered the Weishi although admittedly on Black. Hopefully the order will be here for an unboxing again this week.Going to try a few more solves today on the WuHua but the biggest issue for me currently is the size, not the turning.
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Is the Weishi different to this one? As I was under the impression from this that a stickerless one would be available.


I agree with you that I prefer the Yuxin's size, which is why I went to that after using the Moyu Aoshi. Not sure exactly how I went from not being able to solve a 3x3 18 months ago to now owning 4 different 6x6's and thinking about yet another! :)
 
Yuxin is quite a bit smaller. Here's my 4 different 6x6's side-by-side:

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Left-to-right: Shengshou, Moyu Aoshi, Qiyi, Yuxin

I would say the Moyu is the largest, then Shengshou, then Qiyi then Yuxin.
 
Shaky Hands said:
Left-to-right: Shengshou, Moyu Aoshi, Qiyi, Yuxin
I would say the Moyu is the largest, then Shengshou, then Qiyi then Yuxin.
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Nice collection! But, then again, it is almost the same size (a tiny bit smaller) than the Aoshi. So it's strange the comment by Chris @Selkie about the problem with the size as he was used to the Aoshi.
 
@mafergut Ah, I see what you mean. Perhaps Chris can clarify.

I did do a solve on the Aoshi last night. Found it rather bulky and unwieldy although it's got no lube in it at the moment and I had to readjust from red to pink, so perhaps it's not a fair comparison.

I think the trouble is that with larger puzzles, minimal size differences can feel quite apparent during solves.
 
Shaky Hands said:
Cheers @Selkie, will wait for your review with bated breath! :)
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Ditto. I'll buy just about every new 5x5 that comes out, but I'm not into 6x6 enough yet to be a guinea pig. Especially when I'm still quite happy with my Yuxin. My ShengShou is a paperweight, and my AoShi is a desk ornament :P

@Selkie I was really close to ordering that Galaxy Luxurious kit too! but I opted to save a few bucks and get the sculpted one as recommended. Looking forward to your thoughts on the other Galaxy configurations.


I got home late last night and tried to film some solves and comments on the Valk 3 and new QiYi / MoYu 5x5's, but after watching a few minutes of the video I decided to scrap it. Note to self: Don't try to record videos that require talking and coherent thought when it's super late and you're super tired...

Long story short:
- The Valk 3 is awesome, but too fast for me out of the box. I'll need to slow it down with some lube to make it more controllable. It's a definite main contender.
- The MoYu WeiChuang GTS feels surprisingly more similar to the Yuxin 5x5 than it does to it's predecessor, the BoChuang. In fact, it feels nothing at all like the BoChuang. It has that same kind of bubbly smooth feeling as the Yuxin 5x5. I think I need to tighten it up a bit, as I was experiencing some catching and too much flex. It is a wobbly cube and I hope that it's more stable with tighter tensions. Stickerless shades are the same as MoYu BoChuang.
- The QiYi WuShuang is unique among all my 5x5's. If I had to compare, I'd say it's most similar to the MoYu BoChuang. It has a compact design with sharp clean edges. It is the smallest of the premium 5x5's and I really like the smaller profile. In the hand it feels like this is the 5x5 that should accompany the Yuxin 6x6. I experienced some catching at the 3x3 stage, but I'm sure that was more me than the cube. Mine is also quite dry out of the box, it doesn't feel like it got much, if any, lube at the factory. Stickerless shades are the same as Valk 3 and other QiYi cubes.

I think 5x5's have finally reached the same state 3x3's have been at for a while. We have several premium options that are all great, but feel very different. Between the MoYu BoChuang, MoYu WeiChuang, Yuxin, and QiYi WuShuang, I can't say any one is definitively the best. They're all very very good and it's going to come down to personal preference.

For me right now the MoYu's are the best performers. Though I feel like, with a little work, the QiYi could become my favourite 5x5.
 
Shaky Hands said:
@mafergut Ah, I see what you mean. Perhaps Chris can clarify.

I did do a solve on the Aoshi last night. Found it rather bulky and unwieldy although it's got no lube in it at the moment and I had to readjust from red to pink, so perhaps it's not a fair comparison.

I think the trouble is that with larger puzzles, minimal size differences can feel quite apparent during solves.
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Yeah, I'm sure size can make a difference. I just couldn't go back from 60mm to 62mm 4x4s once I tried the G4. Regarding bigger cubes all my 5x5s are basically the same size (but I would like to have the Shengshou 5x5 Mini LingLong just for fun) and I only have one 6x6 (Yuxin) so I can't compare. Also, I'm so slow at 6x6 that I don't think size would make any difference for me at this (lack of) skill level.
 
@Shaky Hands , @mafergut - Of course, happy to clarify though moment by moment my own assessments are changing. I do like the size of the Yuxin, it is only 1mm but to me makes all the difference and although I do have sub 4:00 means on teh Moyu I have not felt completely happy with the size, weight and lack of flex or forgiveness of inaccurate turning. That said I have been doing a few solves on the Qiyi WuHua and got only my second sub 3:40 solve. It appears to be breaking in nicely. So nicely in fact that its lovely feeling layers are almost a payoff for its size. Watch this space but don't be surprised to see wither the Yuxin or Qiyi in my hands for the comp in Birmingham. It will be a close call.

@earth2dan I can completely agree about there being no clear winner in 5x5 at the moment. At UKC this month it was a close call between the Yuxin and the Qiyi (I ended up solving on the Yuxin and Andy used my Qiyi ) however in the last week the Bochuang has come back into favour for me where it went out of favour a few months ago where I felt it had slowed down. I only have a weichuang on black so did not persevere with it though I was not blown away by it. Another case of uncertainty of what I will use in comp next month. Also really liked our round up of your new puzzles.

I have been sent some Qiyi M-Lube by Marty. It looks like a lower viscosity shock oil. I have ordered all Marty's lubes so will do a comparison of lubes in a video soon when I get the order.
 
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